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Subject: Bungie.....whyyyyy
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Posted by: harriloon
I've been playing halo and halo 2 for three years now. I love halo 2, i like it slightly better than halo one, (probably cause of the new maps) but I always used the halo 1 pistol. the arguments that vitamin is putting forward would be valid, if every halo player had perfect aim all of the time. I only had live for 4 days, and got to level 20. I dont know if this is good or bad, but my experience of halo 1 says that, yeah, its possible to kill someone in 3 seconds, if they are standing still and not shooting you. Like I said, I dont know how good I am in relation to everyone else, but i was the best at my numerous LAN parties, and I continiue to be the best of my friends, but it usually takes me 5-6 shots from a pistol for me to kill someone, if I see them first.

On another issue, if the pistol was a noob gun, then theoretically, all players should do just as well with it. At my aforementioned LAN parties, all my friends were at least reasonable at the game. In pistols only, i always, without exeption, won. The same for most other gametypes. I'm not saying im better than anyone, but skill has a large amount of bearing on who wins in a pistol duel, or a pistol vs. anything else duel. The pistol, like all other weapons, is only good if used in the correct circumstances. If I'm on hang 'em high, and someone with a shotgun charges me from the other side of the map. that person will be killed by my pistol. If i charge at someone iside a corridor when they have a shotgun, i am almost certianly going to lose.

Finally, i have heard argument that the pistol can beat most other strategies. Have you ever tried shotgun camping with a pistol? I thought so. It wouldn't work. there are lots of other strategies that work against the pistol.


After hearing this, I must say I agree with you. I guess it's not as noobish as I thought it was.

Several times, when I used the pistol, I was killed by an AR.
But, a part of my point still remains: the pistol kills too fast for the other player to retaliate, moving or not. But I'll admit, I was way off when I said nothing can beat the pistol.

  • 10.15.2005 7:41 AM PDT
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I was actually testing the other day... Like, the AR can kill a guy with less than a clip used. That is, if you put the guy's health to 100%... But I find it much more useful than the Pistol. So, the pistol isn't the best weapon. A Sniper rifle can do a better, if not faster job as well.

  • 10.15.2005 1:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: sharpshooter_125
I was actually testing the other day... Like, the AR can kill a guy with less than a clip used. That is, if you put the guy's health to 100%... But I find it much more useful than the Pistol. So, the pistol isn't the best weapon. A Sniper rifle can do a better, if not faster job as well.


I did the same thing just now; the AR killed someone quicker than I thought! It was under 5 seconds, I think.

  • 10.15.2005 2:01 PM PDT
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Exact-a-mundo. See, if you want to balance everything out, then just put your life to 400. The pistol takes more than a clip, and the AR is useless. Happy now?

  • 10.15.2005 2:06 PM PDT
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"He's already pulled over....he can't pull over any further!" supertroopers

I COULD HAVE SWORN THIS THREAD WAS STARTED TO MAKE VALID ARGUMENTS ABOUT WHY OR WHY NOT A LIVE-ENABLED HALO CE HASN'T BEEN RELEASED

.....leave it to six-packs of cola and a bag of Pixie Stix to divert the conversation to "Which game is better?...this one u nub...gagedygoo"

...i have officially lost interest in the forums because the webmaster's will not delete post that have nothing to do with the particular thread.


btw...to "Jedimaster" or whateva....ur still talking about Star Wars arent u? Y cant we talk about H1?

[Edited on 10/15/2005]

  • 10.15.2005 5:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: CARDO 8
I COULD HAVE SWORN THIS THREAD WAS STARTED TO MAKE VALID ARGUMENTS ABOUT WHY OR WHY NOT A LIVE-ENABLED HALO CE HASN'T BEEN RELEASED

.....leave it to six-packs of cola and a bag of Pixie Stix to divert the conversation to "Which game is better?...this one u nub...gagedygoo"

...i have officially lost interest in the forums because the webmaster's will not delete post that have nothing to do with the particular thread.


btw...to "Jedimaster" or whateva....ur still talking about Star Wars arent u? Y cant we talk about H1?


What the hell is a "Star Wars". your one crazy guy.

  • 10.15.2005 8:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
You will never play Halo 1 on Xbox Live.


How could you people continue talking about this stupid topic after you've been told this? C'mon, give it a rest.

  • 10.15.2005 8:40 PM PDT
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Sorry we got off-topic, people tend to do that....a lot....

Anyway, i think Bungie is making a horrible mistake by not making Halo1 Live compatible...its just effing -blam!- is what it is.

  • 10.15.2005 11:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: MasterGrief
Sorry we got off-topic, people tend to do that....a lot....

Anyway, i think Bungie is making a horrible mistake by not making Halo1 Live compatible...its just effing -blam!- is what it is.


Halo PC.

  • 10.16.2005 12:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: MasterGrief
Sorry we got off-topic, people tend to do that....a lot....

Anyway, i think Bungie is making a horrible mistake by not making Halo1 Live compatible...its just effing -blam!- is what it is.


Halo PC.


You have never played HaloPC, i am certain.

THE TWO GAMES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT YOU BUTT MUNCH.

  • 10.16.2005 1:03 PM PDT
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no offense ....but i think halo pc is garbage... dont fix what isnt broken

  • 10.16.2005 1:07 PM PDT
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Halo PC is fun. Just not nearly as fun as Halo: Combat Evolved or Halo 2. Plus the graphics are balls because I'm running it on my laptop and I don't want the framerate to suck.

Halo: Combat Evolved on Xbox Live seems like something that Bungie wouldn't want to do because it would be too difficult because of how much time, money and effort it would take, and they probably wouldn't make that much money. Also, they are a busy, forward-looking game developer. Do you want another Conker: Live and Reloaded? Do you want to ruin the Halo legacy? I certainly hope not. Because that's what would happen if Bungie made a Live-enabled Halo: Combat Evolved.

Whyyyyy? Because it's a bad business move, and Bungie is a business.

This discussion is over.

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  • 10.16.2005 2:06 PM PDT
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Someone please help. I am new to Halo 1. We are playing on multiplayer 2 person split screen, and we now want to quit for the night. However, last time we quit, it didn't save. When we go to the Start screen, our only option is "Quit", not "Save and Quit." Can I turn off my XBox and be confident that it is saved? Or do I have to do something special to save it?

  • 10.16.2005 4:23 PM PDT
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If it is such a terribe business move, why don't they hand it off to a struggling developer and allow them to do it? It wouldn't be a year-long process, at most it would take a month.

The stupid business move is the Halo Triple Pack. I don't know anyone that bought it. The smartest thing they could've done, would be to bundle the Halo Triple Pack with the Xbox360 and have Halo1 Xbox Live compatible, that way you could have Halo1 emulated on Xbox 360 and actually utilize the features of the Live marketplace etc etc

  • 10.16.2005 4:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: MasterGrief
Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
Posted by: MasterGrief
Sorry we got off-topic, people tend to do that....a lot....

Anyway, i think Bungie is making a horrible mistake by not making Halo1 Live compatible...its just effing -blam!- is what it is.


Halo PC.


You have never played HaloPC, i am certain.

THE TWO GAMES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT YOU BUTT MUNCH.

I HAVE AND PLAY BOTH GAMES, BUTT MUNCH.

Differences---
1--Fuel rod cannon, flamethrower, rocket hog, banshees, and shades in multiplayer.
2--six new maps--Gephyrophobia, Death Island, Ice Fields, Danger Canyon, Infinity, Timberland.
3--Features--no coop. play, multiple campaign save-files, gamepad compatible
4--Graphics-not as good as Halo Xbox. And it's much laggier.

That enough proof for you?

Anyway, my point was, if you want Halo 1 on Live, why not just play Halo PC? It's the closest thing you'll ever get.

Next time, don't assume that I don't play a certain game. And who uses "butt munch" as an insult? How old are you, ten?

  • 10.16.2005 6:42 PM PDT
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Sorry, but you can't save on co-op. On single player, however, you can. By the way, welcome to the forums.

  • 10.16.2005 6:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
1. We were never planning on making a Halo 1.5. Ever. That was a wishful rumor that refused to die.
2. We don't want to make Halo 1 again... because we already made it once. Sure, you may wish it had extra features, but to us, it would just be the same game, and for very little return, creatively or financially.

No, we are quite comfortable working on our new project. You will never play Halo 1 on Xbox Live.


In case you dumbasses haven't noticed, they are never going to make this game live. So shut up and stop talking about Halo 1 on live.

  • 10.16.2005 7:10 PM PDT
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Yesh... But as it turns out, a few of those guys had a little disargument, and it resulted in giant pyramids, and they all went n--b fishing... The end.

  • 10.16.2005 8:16 PM PDT