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Subject: Side-by-side comparisons...
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I threw together some pictures from Halo and Halo 2 so we could take a look at how the graphics have improved over all these years. I think the most impressive is the first one.
The hand of the elite went from being a low-poly glove to a fully realised, fully bump-mapped hand.

Take a look...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/exomniac/EliteArm.jpg

The evolution of the Grunt...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/exomniac/MmmGrunty.jpg

The Mjolnir upgrade...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/exomniac/MCArmor.jpg

EDIT: (Update)
Warthogs, old and new...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/exomniac/hog.jpg

I hope these made you smile!

[Edited on 8/12/2004 8:15:17 AM]

  • 08.12.2004 7:41 AM PDT
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Nice. Good work getting those pics

  • 08.12.2004 7:44 AM PDT
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I think you got the Grunt pics reversed.

  • 08.12.2004 7:44 AM PDT
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No he didn't the Halo 2 pic has higher quality geometry but plain textures, at least in this case. An early alpha Grunt probably.

  • 08.12.2004 7:48 AM PDT
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Hey, Great post!

Really nice to see someone put some effort into something besides the ILB site.

Anyways, nice comparison picts, this should remind everyone that Halo 2 will be BETTER than the original Halo! Kick-Ass!!!

And yeah, you're right, the glove on the elite is Really nice.

  • 08.12.2004 7:48 AM PDT
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I'm 100% sure I got those Grunt pics right. Parts of the H1 grunt armor look better because it's more obviously bump-mapped than the H2 grunt armor; particularly the chest plate.

  • 08.12.2004 7:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: Locust2
No he didn't the Halo 2 pic has higher quality geometry but plain textures, at least in this case.


I don't think so Tim.

  • 08.12.2004 7:53 AM PDT
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Why not Drakan? The rebreather appears to have 2-3x the polygons in the Halo 2 image. Textures are well done on the head however the armor is rather plain.

  • 08.12.2004 7:56 AM PDT
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Drakan, both pictures are right here on Bungie's website under their respective catagories if you don't believe me.

  • 08.12.2004 7:56 AM PDT
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actually the newer character models for halo 2 have less polygons than the the halo 1 models with bump mapping the way the light maps reflect light give surfaces the illusion of depth with fewer polygons to keep up the framerate and seemingly more detail

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  • 08.12.2004 8:04 AM PDT
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Yeah I know about bump-mapping that's why I said "appears to have more polygons". =P I was not specific.

  • 08.12.2004 8:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: markhamx2
actually the newer character models for halo 2 have less polygons than the the halo 1 models with bump mapping the way the light maps reflect light give surfaces the illusion of depth with fewer polygons to keep up the framerate and seemingly more detail


Exactly, And the second one doesn't look bump mapped. But if you got the pics from this site then I can't argue. But it does look like the first is bump mapped and the second is not. Sorry, I guess I was wrong.

  • 08.12.2004 8:10 AM PDT
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I made one comparing the Warthogs as well...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/exomniac/hog.jpg

We all make mistakes, Drakan...

  • 08.12.2004 8:12 AM PDT
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I believe the Master Chief and Elite one from Halo are actually pre-Xbox Halo. I may be mistaken.

  • 08.12.2004 8:17 AM PDT
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Yeah MC looks exceptionally bland in that render.

  • 08.12.2004 8:21 AM PDT

They said you're a pistol-betch, whatever that means.~WebMaster
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The MC is from Pre-XBox, his visor doesn't have the reflections of his little hat things, which they got rid of those reflections in Halo 2... but I think the Elite is Pre-Box as well, Locust2 is correct.

  • 08.12.2004 8:26 AM PDT
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They really are that bland. I was playing Halo last night, and as I was examining a dead elite, I noticed how particularly unimpressive his hand was. As soon as I saw it I remembered seeing how great the elite's hand looked in the Halo 2 screenshots I had seen.

No, I don't have some hand fetish.

[Edited on 8/12/2004 8:29:40 AM]

  • 08.12.2004 8:27 AM PDT
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blimy
ps the grunts are cool

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Posted by: exomniac
They really are that bland. I was playing Halo last night, and as I was examining a dead elite, I noticed how particularly unimpressive his hand was. As soon as I saw it I remembered seeing how great the elite's hand looked in the Halo 2 screenshots I had seen.

No, I don't have some hand fetish.


I don't know about the elite, their arms are pretty bad, but look at MC. Your picture is definitely pre-Xbox. He has better reflections on his helmet, and the color of his armor isn't as bland.

Elite Halo Xbox

MC Halo Xbox

MC Halo Xbox

Now that I look at it, that's a pre-Xbox elite too. The arms bad, but not that bad.

[Edited on 8/12/2004 8:41:05 AM]

  • 08.12.2004 8:38 AM PDT

They said you're a pistol-betch, whatever that means.~WebMaster
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Thats clearly an old elite look at the back ground... thats not from Halo: CE... its from Halo:PX

  • 08.12.2004 8:54 AM PDT
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Im seeing inconsistancies all over the place. The hand on the elite from Halo 1 that I posted was accurate. I know for a fact, because I just looked at it with my own eyes, on my own Xbox. The screenshots of the elites that were just posted by GruntyMcGee have separate, distinguishable fingers.

-All of the shots that have been posted here were provided by Bungie themselves.
-None of them are "pre-xbox". They are most likely just at different stages of development.
-The fingered elites shown above from Halo 1 have had their fingers removed for the final release of the game, in favor of a low-poly mitten design. Fire up your Xbox and look for yourself.

I suppose this really shows how much things can change RIGHT before the release of a game.

[Edited on 8/12/2004 9:13:58 AM]

  • 08.12.2004 9:12 AM PDT