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why do the two armys seem have the same weapons???? hey ya i was just dont want it to be over balanced thats what i was tryin to get across

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  • 08.12.2004 8:37 AM PDT
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For balance.

  • 08.12.2004 8:38 AM PDT
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But why don't they have totally different things for more variety. I think that's what he meant. Like the covenant sniper rifle - why have a covenant one when there's a human one? Why not have a completely different weapon, but make it just as powerful for balance.

  • 08.12.2004 8:41 AM PDT
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maybe different types of weapons and vehicles are a fundamental part of any army, the US army uses sniper weapons, so does the Japanese army, get it?>

  • 08.12.2004 8:43 AM PDT

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Balance isn't always good. Back in the days of Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness, everything was balanced... TO balanced, all it was was the Orcs and Humans had different skins. There was basically no playing difference. The met each other par for par. I would not like to see that in Halo 2... I would like to see more of a WarCraft III: Frozen Throne type of balance. The races were really different, but still balanced, even though the humans sucked to play as.

  • 08.12.2004 8:43 AM PDT
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yea thats true but the covies have better tech. then us and we really havent seen any real super weapons. the weapons are too balanced the covenant should have a real advantage on the ground not just in space.

  • 08.12.2004 8:44 AM PDT
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It's pretty hard to come up with a brand new weapon.

  • 08.12.2004 8:44 AM PDT
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yea thats true but the covies have better tech. then us and we really havent seen any real super weapons. the weapons are too balanced the covenant should have a real advantage on the ground not just in space.


If the weapons weren't balanced, it wouldn't be very much in multiplayer. Everybody would just use the same gun and avoid the other ones (See Halo - Pistol)

  • 08.12.2004 8:46 AM PDT
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maby energy arrows or something like the weapons the predator has... a bomerang(spelling...) he does the covenant have a rocket launcher cause i know i saw a lot of similair rocket type weapons in halo1. the RL the grunts have at the end or the ones that hunters have.

  • 08.12.2004 8:49 AM PDT
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they could make wheapons for differnet uses like for example when fighting a jackel u would hit it with a plasma pistol to take away that sheild. it could be better that way any they should put a silencer on the battle rifle so u could be stealth.

  • 08.12.2004 8:53 AM PDT
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There are differences between the Covenant weapons and ours, their weapons are better for removing shields, whereas human tech is better for ripping through flesh!
But for the most part the weapons are similar for balance in multiplayer!

  • 08.12.2004 9:22 AM PDT
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What other word would you use?

  • 08.12.2004 9:23 AM PDT
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So if the armies have weapons that are the same.....um basically. then would this be the list:

Rocket Launcher = Fuel rod cannon
Plasma Rifle = Assualt Rifle?
Plasma Pistol = Magnum/pistol?
Plasma Sword = Machete?
Covenent Carbine = Battle Rifle
Covenent Beam Rifle = Sniper Rifle
Shotgun = ????
Brute Shot = ????

Well that's all the weopons I can recall at the moment. The AR and the pistol I'm not sure about cause I never heard any confirmation from bungie about these weapons being in Halo 2. The machete is what the brute carries not us right? If I'm wrong about any of the other weapons let me know.

  • 08.12.2004 9:30 AM PDT
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There aren't equivelants so far in halo that I know of in Halo 1 for xbox. There is no human needler. The Covie pistol is chargeable and has no scope. There is no Covie rocket launcher. And if there is a Covie sniper rifle in H2, well, what do you guys expect the covies to use for long range? All their other weapons bullets would disapear before they hit the destination anyways. And most Covie guns in H1 suck for accuracy. So unless they kill a marine and take his sniper rifle, WTF are they supposed to use for long range? There is no human creep, no covie warthog, no covie atv, I've never seen any human of those big connon things in the H2 preview that was destroying a building and I've never seen a covie jet fighter or bomber. Don't say that phantoms are jet fighters because they're tronsports, and don't say the truth and reconciliation was a bomber because that is a space craft. And you didn't see the space shuttle bombing the hell out of Afghanistan. ...Sorry for such a long explination.

  • 08.12.2004 2:51 PM PDT
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Covies do have space fighter they are called Seraphs we just haven't seen any yet. They are in the first and third books, dont know about the second i dont think so. And bungie needs some equivelencies in weapons but other wise they need to be TOTALLY different.

  • 08.12.2004 2:56 PM PDT
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Whoever was talking about Warcraft game got it absolutly right. There can be overbalancing, but even if they do mirror all the weapons (or most) then as long as they are desinctly different advantages then it will be good.

  • 08.12.2004 2:56 PM PDT
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There is a Covenant Hog, its called a Shadow.
There is also a Covenant missle launcher, thats the Fuel Rod Gun!
Of course no weapons are direct equivalents, I mean the Plasma Rifle freezes people, but it shares characteristics with the SMG.
The Covenant Carbine has some similarities to the BR but its also appently got some big differences, yet its considered an equivalent!

  • 08.12.2004 3:52 PM PDT