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Subject: Halo: Reach October Playlist Update

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The only things that I noticed that I didn't see fixed where the sequential hills for KotH and the "Bulltrue Betrayal" in Infection.

You know what the sequential hill issue is, so yeah.

The "Bulltrue Betrayal" occurs often when a player kills a zombie a split second after they die (it may seem that the two deaths happen instantaneously, but, by looking in the theater, one can see the lapse between them), much like the instances of a double headshot, but because they, upon death, switch teams, and this precedes the death of the other player, the zombie, it counts as a betrayal.

I've seen people get booted for this. Fixing the betrayal system (which you did, kudos) should do some good for not getting booted, but if it happens twice, they're pretty much at the mercy of the guy who infected them. Even that doesn't account for the fact that the player should receive a kill and a Bulltrue, which they don't.

You've probably already taken notice of that, I just thought I'd get this bit pointed out.

[Edited on 10.06.2010 11:03 AM PDT]

  • 10.06.2010 10:43 AM PDT

One of the best part of the Reach mathmaking was the ability to vote. Why in the world would you take that away in arena? Also does anyone else miss free for all ranked? Free for all was my favorite, now there is no competition on it.

  • 10.06.2010 11:02 AM PDT
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By removing Slayer Classic / Slayer Pro, are there no more Slayer variants that are Sprint-only? I thought Slayer Pro, especially on Arena was great. Seeing as this is no longer in (and I'm assuming replaced by Slayer DMR's), what will happen with Pro? Perhaps Pro deserves it's own playlist, more so than zombies, SWAT and everything else that is less 'competitive.'

  • 10.06.2010 11:13 AM PDT

WHY ON EARTH IS THERE NO "PRO" GAMETYPES IN ARENA? REGULAR DMR's GAMETYPES SUCK AND YOU SHOULD AT LEAST OF LET THE VOTING STAY SO WE COULD CHOOSE PRO. I DONT UNDERSTAND IS BUNGIE TRYING TO MAKE US LIKE THESE ATTRIBUTES SUCH AS "jetpack" and "invis" BECAUSE IF SO IT"S JUST PISSING ALOT OF PEOPLE OFF!

[Edited on 10.06.2010 12:05 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2010 12:04 PM PDT
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Never forget, Spartan-051

Wait.. No more Big Team SWAT on Hemorrhage?? :(

  • 10.06.2010 12:06 PM PDT

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w00t!

Glad I won't have to play SWAT every other game!

  • 10.06.2010 12:28 PM PDT

How dumb is bungie? they want to make a competitive playlist, yet they never make it right. how hard is to follow mlg's lead and just put in the official rules and maps. i dont believe its that complicated, quit trying to half-ass it and do it your way, its not going to make anyone happy and you obviously never get it right. nobody wants bungie doing the "competitive playlists" just keep doing the "fun playlists." taking DMR pro out of the arena playlist was the stupidest thing they could have done..."lets take all the skill out of team arena and let the bad kids armor lock and fly around all day" -someone from bungie...thanks for nothing. You finally add alot of skill into the game -DMR-, and add a rating system that seems pretty good to me, and then you have to go and ruin it...keep it simple bungie, let MLG run the competitive playlists and we will all be happier. Armor lock, jetpack, and radar on at all times....really Bungie?

  • 10.06.2010 12:41 PM PDT

I love Halo

Is there going to be team swords? That would be cool

  • 10.06.2010 12:47 PM PDT

bring back halo 2 i know id buy it

  • 10.06.2010 12:53 PM PDT

I love the changes. I was hoping on the next update, Snipers would have its own playlist as well.

  • 10.06.2010 12:55 PM PDT

I TOTALLY AGREE! My friends don't even like reach all that much do to stupid f-ups by bungie....

  • 10.06.2010 12:56 PM PDT

DEAR BUNGIE,

You ruined halo 3, and it looks to me like halo: reach is going to become an epic fail as well.

In order to retain the title as best video game producers please bring back halo 2 in its original form with updated graphics so we can all just be happy. Theres no need to stop Halo Reach or Halo 3 online since Halo 2 was obviously the best game you made no one will play those games. Think of it as an added pension. Once Halo 2 is brought back and goes on sale not only will you make tons of money but you will also give something back to the fans that have made you millionares in the first place. So please Bungie bring back Halo 2 :( !!!!!

  • 10.06.2010 1:06 PM PDT

Bungie you are a little three year old that is sitting on the living room floor thinking if you have all your toys out at once you will be more happy, truth is that nobody is happy with all these stupid armor lock, invisibility, jetpacking idiots on a competitive playlist. If this does not change soon or I do hear word of a promise. I will sell my game and never think of buying another bungie game again. I think the community is happy that you won't be developing halo games anymore. Nobody wants you to screw up what the halo name means already more than what you have.

  • 10.06.2010 1:11 PM PDT

Bungie !!!! Please listen this guys post!!!!!!!

  • 10.06.2010 1:22 PM PDT

I like the addition of Swat as a stand alone play list. The one major thing that I disagree with it the dropping of Slayer Pro in Arena. Not only did we lose a great playlist free of jet packs, armor lock and camo we lost the ability to choose what we play. We can't even veto the map!? what is this pre-Halo 2? Talk about a 3 steps back!

I for one will be playing just enough to be ranked in Season 2 and will cut myself off from arena for the rest of the season. I just hope & pray that season 3 will bring a little more balance & choice.

If Bungie was looking for a way to make Arena more competitive and include armor abilities they should have just added an MLG playlist!

just my thoughts!
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  • 10.06.2010 1:24 PM PDT

Put "Hemorrhage" back on Team SWAT please :(

  • 10.06.2010 1:45 PM PDT

I think they got rid of free-for-all rank because there were a certain amount of reserved spots for each division getting smaller as you go up... so only the modders were in the top spots

  • 10.06.2010 1:48 PM PDT

I love the Update, but there is one thing, why is Team Snipers not in the playlists ?

[Edited on 10.06.2010 2:37 PM PDT]

  • 10.06.2010 2:32 PM PDT

You spelled Should incorrectly.

  • 10.06.2010 2:35 PM PDT

Ill use what ever I weapon I feel like picking up to destroy you whether that be the newb tube or the needle rifle. So don't whine.

I do not really understand the logic behind the changes in team arena. 1. Now we are forced to play not only the game type of the games choosing but also the map. It was bad enough taking out the most popular and liked game type.(Pro) As it was chosen a majority of the time, but now we must play Slayer DMRs with all the armor abilities that most people do not enjoy in competitive game play. As I stated earlier we are also not allowed to vote upon the map even. This was a huge mistake in so many ways in my opinion, I realize this is somewhat of a rant but it is my view and most likely many others.

  • 10.06.2010 2:36 PM PDT


Posted by: StickyGreen Nug
DEAR BUNGIE,

You ruined halo 3, and it looks to me like halo: reach is going to become an epic fail as well.

In order to retain the title as best video game producers please bring back halo 2 in its original form with updated graphics so we can all just be happy. Theres no need to stop Halo Reach or Halo 3 online since Halo 2 was obviously the best game you made no one will play those games. Think of it as an added pension. Once Halo 2 is brought back and goes on sale not only will you make tons of money but you will also give something back to the fans that have made you millionares in the first place. So please Bungie bring back Halo 2 :( !!!!!


You do realize that when Halo 2 was being played everyone said it sucked and that Halo 1 was the best game ever. Well hate to break it to you, but as someone that has put in 10000+ games in all the games except reach so far, REACH IS THE BEST THE HAVE EVER MADE.

  • 10.06.2010 2:37 PM PDT

I'm VERY disappointed with the fact that Slayer Pro has been removed from all the game types (specifically Arena). Arena is the one place to really have a ranking and be competitive and I feel that all the load outs really cheapen it and give it that less "professional" feeling. I hope they remedy this by adding pro back in or making a separate arena playlist for mlg game type or "pro" game type in the arena. You don't even get to vote for a map or anything when you're in arena now!

I DO however like the fact that there is a swat playlist...and that the "outerspace" area of zealot is closed off.

  • 10.06.2010 2:53 PM PDT

yeah dude same here...when i found out that there is no more slayer pro in arena i just felt like slapping bungie so hard...and i put halo3 back in for the first time in a month and played some MLG...MLG or anything close to it like slayer pro is the only thing that makes me play halo...all of that stupid armor lock bull-blam!- and -blam!-y jetpack!! WTF?!?!? we dont need a jet pack!!!the only really ability we need is sprint THATS IT!!!

  • 10.06.2010 2:57 PM PDT

Bungie I've been around since Halo 1 and yes Halo 1 was the best and each game that came out got worse and worse. You went from 3 shot to 4 shot to 5 shot.. you try to balance the game but all it does it make noobs get kills they shouldn't and enjoy the game and you ruined competitive gaming. All you do bungie is ruin competitive gaming.. BUNGIE YOU CAN NOTTTTT Balance the game you need to leave glitchs that are skillful you need to allow players to stay ahead thats what makes it fun. Your update is terriable why would you EVER take out slayer pro .. NO BODY WANTS TO PLAY WITH JETPACKS CAMO AND ARMOR LOCK UNLESS THEY LIKE TO TAKE IT UP THE BUTT! Only reason I even play halo is because I just hope that it may get back to as good as it was in halo 1 but never you will never bring it back to that. I seriously hate you and the fact that all you care about is appeasing to noobs because theres more noobs then serious players. I wish mlg would make a shooter that would be fun. You guys hardly work with mlg and thats were your dedicated customers come from.. you know what Im just about to say screw this im done with anything bungie.. IF YOU DONT FIX IT SOON ME AND MANNNNYYY MANNYY OTHERS THAT ALREADY HAVE AND WILL ARE DONE!

  • 10.06.2010 2:59 PM PDT

thats exacly why im playing halo3 now...reach is just sooo stupid...its one thing to have people camping with shotgun...but to have shotgun with camo and the stupid radar is jammed that is soo stupid...and ARMOR LOCK IS THE WORST THING BUNJIE HAS INVENTED!!!!!!!!.....stupid noobs just spam armor lock and it makes me mad...bunjie plz plz plz make a mlg playlist or something similar because im a really competitive player and so is many many many other people!!

  • 10.06.2010 3:02 PM PDT