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Subject: covenant super carrier

Does any unsc ships could actually take on the ship that size.

[Edited on 10.12.2010 10:01 PM PDT]

  • 10.12.2010 10:00 PM PDT

No, they could not.

  • 10.12.2010 10:15 PM PDT
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in the books they make it seem hard for any ship to single handedly take on a covenant ship. but if the humans had it outnumbered (laughable) maybe they got a chance... maybeh

[Edited on 10.12.2010 10:26 PM PDT]

  • 10.12.2010 10:26 PM PDT

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If it truly as 27km long, I don't think even an SMAC can knock it out.

It's about the same size as Unyielding Heirophant which had a shield strong enough to 'repel the collision of a small moon'.

**WARNING - SCIENCE**

We use Earth's moon as an example. It has an orbit speed of around 1022m/s and a mass of 7.3477x10^22kg.

If Heirophant was to place itself in the path of Luna's orbit, it would subject itself to an impact energy equivalent to 3.837x10^28J of energy - roughly equivalent to a 9,171 Petaton detonation of TNT - or 9 quintillion tonnes of TNT.
An SMAC has an impact force of between 5 and 50 gigatons of TNT (depends on your calculation). Even using the larger value for impact force, it would take well over 180 million SMAC rounds to do the same damage - and even then, it would still have shields, or at least hull.

In short, no, the UNSC cannot take it out, without the slipspace bomb method they used.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 12:34 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 12:31 AM PDT

What about the NOVA bomb?

[Edited on 10.13.2010 6:06 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 6:06 AM PDT

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in the books, it took 3 MAC rounds and still had shields. so they are tough. =D it took MC going in with a bomb and setting it off at the reactor to destroy it.

  • 10.13.2010 6:37 AM PDT

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Yes only 1 UNSC detroyed a super Carrier. His mothode he collided with it in the week spot. The force of the nuclear explosion and the reaction of the covenant main generator cause a big enought explosion to destroy it. It was in one of the halo books

  • 10.13.2010 7:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 7:45 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 7:45 AM PDT


Posted by: Puma Knight

Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.


seriously? a PLANET CRACKING BOMB? Sorry but that's basically a teraton-level explosion RIGHT THERE. The supercarrier's shields would withstand THAT?

  • 10.13.2010 7:55 AM PDT

Learn to accept people interest.

The ship fired its MAC Rounds to dissable the shileds then RAM it

[Edited on 10.13.2010 8:21 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 8:21 AM PDT


Posted by: Puma Knight

Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.


A NOVA bomb has 1.2 Petatons of power, I'm quite certain it would make quick work of the super carries shields.

  • 10.13.2010 8:26 AM PDT

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Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.


A NOVA bomb has 1.2 Petatons of power, I'm quite certain it would make quick work of the super carries shields.
If its shields actually can repel the moon colliding with them, you would need close to 9000 NOVAS to knock out the shields. But that's a basic numbers calculation, the NOVA would destroy it.

  • 10.13.2010 8:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
If it truly as 27km long, I don't think even an SMAC can knock it out.

It's about the same size as Unyielding Heirophant which had a shield strong enough to 'repel the collision of a small moon'.

**WARNING - SCIENCE**

We use Earth's moon as an example. It has an orbit speed of around 1022m/s and a mass of 7.3477x10^22kg.

If Heirophant was to place itself in the path of Luna's orbit, it would subject itself to an impact energy equivalent to 3.837x10^28J of energy - roughly equivalent to a 9,171 Petaton detonation of TNT - or 9 quintillion tonnes of TNT.
An SMAC has an impact force of between 5 and 50 gigatons of TNT (depends on your calculation). Even using the larger value for impact force, it would take well over 180 million SMAC rounds to do the same damage - and even then, it would still have shields, or at least hull.

In short, no, the UNSC cannot take it out, without the slipspace bomb method they used.
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Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
If it truly as 27km long, I don't think even an SMAC can knock it out.

It's about the same size as Unyielding Heirophant which had a shield strong enough to 'repel the collision of a small moon'.

**WARNING - SCIENCE**

We use Earth's moon as an example. It has an orbit speed of around 1022m/s and a mass of 7.3477x10^22kg.

If Heirophant was to place itself in the path of Luna's orbit, it would subject itself to an impact energy equivalent to 3.837x10^28J of energy - roughly equivalent to a 9,171 Petaton detonation of TNT - or 9 quintillion tonnes of TNT.
An SMAC has an impact force of between 5 and 50 gigatons of TNT (depends on your calculation). Even using the larger value for impact force, it would take well over 180 million SMAC rounds to do the same damage - and even then, it would still have shields, or at least hull.

In short, no, the UNSC cannot take it out, without the slipspace bomb method they used.


yeah, but I wouldn't call Luna small. If we use Phobos, it's a mere 5 teratons. If Deimos, it's only 300 gigatons. But there's other considerations that may be more important than just energy.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 9:12 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 9:06 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.


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Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
If it truly as 27km long, I don't think even an SMAC can knock it out.

It's about the same size as Unyielding Heirophant which had a shield strong enough to 'repel the collision of a small moon'.

**WARNING - SCIENCE**

We use Earth's moon as an example. It has an orbit speed of around 1022m/s and a mass of 7.3477x10^22kg.

If Heirophant was to place itself in the path of Luna's orbit, it would subject itself to an impact energy equivalent to 3.837x10^28J of energy - roughly equivalent to a 9,171 Petaton detonation of TNT - or 9 quintillion tonnes of TNT.
An SMAC has an impact force of between 5 and 50 gigatons of TNT (depends on your calculation). Even using the larger value for impact force, it would take well over 180 million SMAC rounds to do the same damage - and even then, it would still have shields, or at least hull.

In short, no, the UNSC cannot take it out, without the slipspace bomb method they used.


yeah, but I wouldn't call Luna small. If we use Phobos, it's a mere 5 teratons. If Deimos, it's only 300 gigatons. But there's other considerations that may be more important than just energy.
That was nothing more than a quick calculation that I did this morning.

Luna was the only moon I knew the name of, and it's obviously nowhere near small - it's around a fifth the size of Earth.
Energy calculations are just really to give a layman's on the situation, because everyone can understand numbers, if maybe not to such scale. Not to mention, everyone's heard of 'The Moon', and maybe Io if they were paying attention in Halo 2. Figures are to be taken as a brief example, and not at face value.

But there are a lot of assumptions I put into it myself - that the Supercarrier actually IS 27km long, that it has the same shielding system and power output as that of the Unyielding Heirophant, and also that it was stationary upon impact.

I think the main point with being struck by a moon, is that everyone on board would be killed by the acceleration provided by being hit by a moon, even if the collision itself was actually deflected by the shield. Laws of momentum.

  • 10.13.2010 9:53 AM PDT

Break down, every single one of you.

Oh, I thought the NOVA bomb was just a tactical nuke. Never mind, then.

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Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.


seriously? a PLANET CRACKING BOMB? Sorry but that's basically a teraton-level explosion RIGHT THERE. The supercarrier's shields would withstand THAT?


[Edited on 10.13.2010 10:14 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 10:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Puma Knight
Oh, I thought the NOVA bomb was just a tactical nuke. Never mind, then.

NOVA Bomb - nine fusion warheads encased in lithium triteride armor. When detonated, it compresses its fissionable material to neutron-star density, boosting the thermonuclear yield a hundredfold.

Also, supposedly in space it is even more powerful than when it is detonated in atmosphere.

[Edited on 10.13.2010 10:17 AM PDT]

  • 10.13.2010 10:14 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
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Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.


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Posted by: Puma Knight
Oh, I thought the NOVA bomb was just a tactical nuke. Never mind, then.

NOVA Bomb - nine fusion warheads encased in lithium triteride armor. When detonated, it compresses its fissionable material to neutron-star density, boosting the thermonuclear yield a hundredfold.

Also, supposedly in space it is even more powerful than when it is detonated in atmosphere.
I'm not sure that's possible - yes, it will have a greater range in vacuum, but the effects will be extremely brief. In atmosphere, there are all the molecules of the air, ground and target to break and atomise, meaning the damage is heavy and spread out.

  • 10.13.2010 11:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Puma Knight

Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.


This ship is just stupid. I will just think its about 6-7KM in my own mind.

  • 10.13.2010 11:39 AM PDT


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Posted by: Puma Knight

Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.


This ship is just stupid. I will just think its about 6-7KM in my own mind.


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in the books, it took 3 MAC rounds and still had shields. so they are tough. =D it took MC going in with a bomb and setting it off at the reactor to destroy it.

A standard MAC gun can take 3 shots to de-shield a standard Covie Assault Carrier, where as a Super-MAC can kill an assault carrier in 1 shot through full shields.'

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Ahh, indeed.
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  • 10.28.2010 2:37 PM PDT

My question is how did the Covenant manage to build a 27km long ship? I had thought the supercarrier was the same as an assault carrier until recently. How many suppercarriers did they build?

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Posted by: Strixel
What about the NOVA bomb?
It would have to be planted inside the ship or else the shields would just repel it.


seriously? a PLANET CRACKING BOMB? Sorry but that's basically a teraton-level explosion RIGHT THERE. The supercarrier's shields would withstand THAT?
Don't worry, it wouldn't, don't let these guys scare you with science, I'm sure a few SMAC rounds could destroy one. :)

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Posted by: Darth Lampshade
My question is how did the Covenant manage to build a 27km long ship? I had thought the supercarrier was the same as an assault carrier until recently. How many suppercarriers did they build?
Only a handful, considering less than 10 were integrated in the Fleet of Hamogenous Clarity, the fleet that protected High Charity. They were also built in-space, they don,t make shipyards that big.

  • 10.28.2010 2:51 PM PDT

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