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Subject: No driving with flag = annoyance
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No really i think the biggest problem with Halo 2 that i have seen (there arent many) is this new "no driving with the flag. I realize some people got annoyed by this in Halo 1 but bungie could come up with a better answer than removing it. I mean take the following example. You are in the passenger seat of a hog u jump out get the flag but when you come back your jerk teammates have abandoned you, there is a perfectly good ATV sitting right next to u but because you have the flag you cant use it so you have to walk. Half way through you get spoted by a sniper who decides to put a bullet in your head. Game over your team looses because your teammates were idiots. I mean bungie could come up with a better solution: like they should have a slot on a vehicle that you can put the flag into like the antena on the bck of the warthog, then you can drive but when u get out u have to go back and pick it up from the slot. And if it gets shot it can fall out this satisfies people who complain that if Flag cariers get in a vehic there is no chance of stopping them and the people who hate this feature....tell me what you think

  • 08.13.2004 10:21 AM PDT
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I like the no-driving with the flag, should make CTF a lot more tactical.

  • 08.13.2004 10:23 AM PDT
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just try to drive with a flag in hand!!! i think you can get in worthog as passenger** and another one is driving... that would be ok

  • 08.13.2004 10:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: DebileKing
just try to drive with a flag in hand!!! i think you can get in worthog as passenger** and another one is driving... that would be ok
Yes u can but lets say ur team were idiots so they left you and sinse you cant drive youre screwed. The slot idea would work good cus then it satisfies both sides.

  • 08.13.2004 10:24 AM PDT
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I believe bungie knows what its doing. one way they countered this was that the flag sits for about 30 seconds so that even if you die there is still time for your team to get the flag after you die. As for if your team is a bunch of idiots....Its likely you will lose no matter what the case is then:)

  • 08.13.2004 10:27 AM PDT
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I dont know why people are complaining about a feature they haven't even played with yet. If bungie put it in, Its probably better

  • 08.13.2004 10:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: DebileKing
just try to drive with a flag in hand!!! i think you can get in worthog as passenger** and another one is driving... that would be ok
Yes u can but lets say ur team were idiots so they left you and sinse you cant drive youre screwed. The slot idea would work good cus then it satisfies both sides.

Then your team needs to learn to work as a team.

  • 08.13.2004 10:28 AM PDT
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Another solution: Don't have idiots for teammates.

It promotes teamwork, which should be used in team games like ctf. Anything that promotes using your team to complete missions is good in my book.

  • 08.13.2004 10:29 AM PDT
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= practical

i like it because now it will require even more teamwork.

  • 08.13.2004 10:29 AM PDT
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No cause if they were bad and you were good u could ussually have a chance in Halo. I mean would it hurt, no it would only help. I mean there are only a few vehicles that we know of that are even able to seat a gunner not to mention a passenger. So if your only ride got destroyed and there was a map 5 times the size of BG then you are really screwed. Besides wouldn't it make sense that there would be some way to drive with it, like stick it behind the seat or something.

  • 08.13.2004 10:30 AM PDT
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Even with the best of people teamwork isn't allways possible or practical.

  • 08.13.2004 10:31 AM PDT
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Driving with the flag is a lot more realistic than gunning with the flag, I'm suprised they still let gun with it, or do they?

[Edited on 8/13/2004 10:35:47 AM]

  • 08.13.2004 10:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
Driving with the flag is a lot more realistic than gunning, with the flag, I'm suprised they let you do that still.


where did it say you could drive with the flag? i thought you could only ride shotgun.

  • 08.13.2004 10:33 AM PDT
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The military uses teamwork, so it must be possible and practical, especially with the best people. If your teammates die, it's a good possibility you will too, that's just how it is.

  • 08.13.2004 10:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
Driving with the flag is a lot more realistic than gunning, with the flag, I'm suprised they let you do that still.


where did it say you could drive with the flag? i thought you could only ride shotgun.

I was talking about gunning with the flag.

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Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
Driving with the flag is a lot more realistic than gunning, with the flag, I'm suprised they still let you do that, or do they?

No they dont, but atleast they could have that option, to be able to drive with it, and then think what if it was 1 on 1 how would you do it then hmmm.

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Posted by: Agamemnon
Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
Driving with the flag is a lot more realistic than gunning, with the flag, I'm suprised they still let you do that, or do they?

No they dont, but atleast they could have that option, to be able to drive with it, and then think what if it was 1 on 1 how would you do it then hmmm.

Read my last post ^.

[Edited on 8/13/2004 10:36:32 AM]

  • 08.13.2004 10:36 AM PDT
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If it's 1 on 1 then what's the point? Why play capture the flag?

  • 08.13.2004 10:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: GruntyMcGee
The military uses teamwork, so it must be possible and practical, especially with the best people. If your teammates die, it's a good possibility you will too, that's just how it is.

But it doesnt need to be that way, if they continue like this it will be for sure if there is only u left u WILL die but if they dont there is the possibility of u not dying. I mean what ever happened to soaring down with a banshee picking up the flag and soaring back, something that required real skill sinse anything in the sky turn into a bullet magnet.

  • 08.13.2004 10:37 AM PDT
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maybe on the ATV you can place the flag on the back and then you drive...but not being able to drive with the flag makes complete sense, because it would be hard to hold a flag and the steering wheel at the same time. Holding the flag and driving was a commonly used strategy in Halo. i.e. you could send 2 cars to the enemy base, then drvie away with both and with the flag, and the enemy wouldn't know which car had the flag.

  • 08.13.2004 10:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
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Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
Driving with the flag is a lot more realistic than gunning, with the flag, I'm suprised they let you do that still.


where did it say you could drive with the flag? i thought you could only ride shotgun.

I was talking about gunning with the flag.


my bad my fingers typed faster than my brain. i meant to ask where they stated you could main the gun with the flag? as far as i've seen you can only ride shotgun.

  • 08.13.2004 10:39 AM PDT
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it all may add strategy, but it would suck to go 2/3 slower and not being able to drive warthog or atv away

  • 08.13.2004 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: focused7
Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
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Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
Driving with the flag is a lot more realistic than gunning, with the flag, I'm suprised they let you do that still.


where did it say you could drive with the flag? i thought you could only ride shotgun.

I was talking about gunning with the flag.


my bad my fingers typed faster than my brain. i meant to ask where they stated you could main the gun with the flag? as far as i've seen you can only ride shotgun.

You can only ride shotgun.

  • 08.13.2004 10:41 AM PDT
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It's obvious that they are focusing more on teamwork. If your team isn't as good as the other team then you lose. You are part of a team. To think of yourself means you aren't thinking of your team either, maybe that's why you lose. Plan together, attack together, win or lose TOGETHER. That's part of being a team. If you can't handle that go play slayer. It's all you then.

Your team is only as strong as your weakest player.

[Edited on 8/13/2004 10:47:18 AM]

  • 08.13.2004 10:46 AM PDT
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it will be a lot more difficult as vechiels in halo 2 go BOOM when shot and so = death of all inside said vechiel and death to falg

  • 08.13.2004 10:46 AM PDT

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