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Subject: Noble Map Pack - 11/30/2010

wow no offense but they haven't lost their touch reach was everything they said it would be my only problem with it is -blam!- sad ass people with lagg switches and mods just gtf off halo and go play cod u sad modders! (note im not saying your a modder just that i hate them and bungie should make an effort to ban them, PERMANANTLY!)

  • 10.14.2010 4:12 PM PDT
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REACH. REACH. REACH.

It looks like both Breakpoint and Anchor 9 were spaces intended for campaign but they got cut; and Tempest may have been a Forge World space at one time or another but was also set aside.

  • 10.14.2010 4:15 PM PDT

I was kinda hoping for a Sabre multiplayer map... but looks great:P

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But from my head to my toes
From my knees to my eyes
Everytime I watch the sky
For these last few days leave me alone
But for these last few days leave me alone
Leave me alone
Leave me alone


Posted by: DigThat
Considering that developers such as Valve already give out multiplayer maps for free, I do think that paying $3.33 for a single map is quite expensive! But my bigger point was that Bungie will eventually integrate the DLC into multiplayer, which blocks anyone who hasn't purchased the maps from playing! Currently, I can play every single playlist on Halo Reach, but after Bungie moves the maps into multiplayer, I will have to pay extra to continue to do what I can already do right now! And I know that Bungie will defend this by saying that multiplayer is some sort of bonus feature that is included with the campaign, which is the only thing you are entitled to with your retail copy, but that would be overlooking Halo's impact on online console multiplayer, which is the defining feature of the Halo games since Halo 2! It would discredit the feature that most players bought the game for in the first place! But so long as Bungie pumps out more maps, regardless of quality and price, I suppose you will continue to buy them because the price isn't "extravagant"! As if anything is extravagant to someone who can readily afford to pay it!
I would remind you of three things:
1. Bungie has no say about pricing. That's Microsoft's fault.
2. Valve's principal playerbase is PC gamers. They use plain old internet connections to play online, and there is no massive corporation breathing down their necks to force them to raise prices.
3. Sure, Valve's games get ported to Xbox. But at that point Microsoft has no monopoly on the game. If they charge for the maps, and they're free on PC, then Microsoft would lose customers who migrate over to PC, where the maps were free. A poor business decision, to be sure.
This pretty much invalidates your entire argument. This is a non-issue. Complain to Microsoft if you want to complain at all.
And yes, I will pay it, because the game itself is worth it. And we don't even know yet if there will be playlist blocking for lack of maps. That is an argument for another day; Bungie may have updated their strategy.
I GOT YO BACKS BUNGIE! <3
That was great of you to completely disregard my actual argument, which I even explicitly said was my bigger point! Here, I'll bold it for you since you missed it the first time!

  • 10.14.2010 4:16 PM PDT

whoa serioulsy im in the United Kingdom and £10 is worth more than $10 yet i still wipe my ass with £10 it's nothing ffs if your a halo fan you wouldn't give a -blam!-

  • 10.14.2010 4:16 PM PDT

BRANDON tha GREAT

Not thrilled about the 3 for 8 deal. Out dated seeing as there is more to halo now that MP maps. They could add the community maps for FREE and i would be happy. The only way im gettin this is if the chevos are worth it. Black Ops, Fallout, Force Unleashed II, Holidays. Going to be straped for a while. Here's to hopeing they add more before DLC release. Please please please.

  • 10.14.2010 4:17 PM PDT

What is up with all you ignorant people? The multiplayer maps were made for multiplayer FIRST, and then put into campaign. They were all MADE to be played in Multiplayer. Even the Firefight maps.

So stop acting like Bungie is lazy. They put so much work into this game, more than any other one they've made. And we're going to get more of their hard work, and you can't just be thankful? All you people do is complain. Grow the hell up.

  • 10.14.2010 4:20 PM PDT

IIIIIII

A month after launch and you guys already announce DLC maps. Amazing.

I'm definitely buying!

  • 10.14.2010 4:23 PM PDT
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I hope that its not required for u to buy it for actually playing like halo 3...cuz that would suck

  • 10.14.2010 4:27 PM PDT

YESSSSSS. this is great!!! when will it be coming out?

  • 10.14.2010 4:29 PM PDT

are you kidding me only 3 maps? and the second one looks like another forge world im tired of crappy maps and i shouldnt have to pay for maps you should have put in the game in the beginning instead of horribly put together maps

  • 10.14.2010 4:30 PM PDT

Nice!

  • 10.14.2010 4:40 PM PDT

There is not a single arena-style map. Bungie, you are letting me down.

  • 10.14.2010 4:40 PM PDT

i cant wait. do u know if and how many microsoft points its gonna cost

  • 10.14.2010 4:40 PM PDT

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Its 800 ms points and does anyone know when it is coming out?

Also for all the haters that are to poor to pay $10 dollars for 3 new reach maps go out and buy 1600 ms points, it will be worth it!!

I mean comon it's REACH!!!

  • 10.14.2010 4:42 PM PDT


Posted by: Zephyrr
What is up with all you ignorant people? The multiplayer maps were made for multiplayer FIRST, and then put into campaign. They were all MADE to be played in Multiplayer. Even the Firefight maps.

So stop acting like Bungie is lazy. They put so much work into this game, more than any other one they've made. And we're going to get more of their hard work, and you can't just be thankful? All you people do is complain. Grow the hell up.



So as the consumer (the person who bought this $60 game), I'm not allowed to complain? Do I just have to accept all the flaws that I, apparently, paid for? Heaven forbid I want something that is likely to appease a very large group of the Bungie community (MLG), in the form of at least one arena map.

Your logic is ignorant.

  • 10.14.2010 4:43 PM PDT

I am truly disappointed with Bungie and MS at this point. I bought a game, knowing that I'd spent $60 for the quality I have grown on and loved in gaming with the Halo series (since Halo: CE, and everything in between). However, not only is my "system" plagued with the massive Disc Read Errors (which, might I add, is far from a "small" scale - there are owners of every xbox model with this problem!), and MS only fixing this problem with a $120 fee. Which, btw, the only workaround for is a filing of a complaint to the BBB, a serious enough case that MS will GLADLY fix your console for FREE over. After all of this, and the near lack of support from Bungie or MS other than "Call Xbox support" is problematic in itself. But then to release "old" content that could've been added to the disc, (or even better, making Reach TWO discs to resolve the MASSIVE DREs, like ODST), and then to pump them out for $10 with zero additional content (achievements are what you make of them, gamerscore does not equate to anything other than bragging rights) is a slap in the face. After the day is done, in order to get the full experience that was promised, some (not all) will end up paying nearly $300+ to be able to do. For everyone here saying $10 isn't much, try paying for college, working, bills, etc. The only ones here who think this is all easy are spoiled kids.

For the utter lack of content on the disc (in the form of Firefight and MP at least - I still can't play the entire campaign), the Bungie community deserves SOMETHING more than the same. Once enough people refuse to buy the content, it will either be free (SOME Halo 3 maps) or stay at the same rate (MOST Halo 3 maps). Or be extorted like they've already done with their software and MS (why the BBB complaint IS serious. Or with ODST forcing H3 players to buy JUST to play). And for all those here who claim this ISN'T a money grab - this game sold how many copies? I am a Software Engineering major, I know about manhours involved in coding. But the effort by Bungie is not nearly what people are making of it. I absolutely LOVED H:CE and H2. The TRUE bungie team imo, as H3, ODST, and REACH have shown that the quality standard (the FUN of the GAME, the customer support, etc) has fallen. Out with a bang indeed.

  • 10.14.2010 4:48 PM PDT

Its 800 ms points and does anyone know when it is coming out?

Also for all the haters that are to poor to pay $10 dollars for 3 new reach maps go out and buy 1600 ms points, it will be worth it!!

I mean comon it's REACH!!!


How do you buy something you cannot afford to begin with? Hence the issue here.

  • 10.14.2010 4:51 PM PDT

The only problem I have with these maps is that theyre all big team battle maps... We need better small-scale maps, like Guardian.

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  • 10.14.2010 4:55 PM PDT

3 maps for 10 dollars.

What a bloody ripoff.

1 month in and I don't want to even touch reach again.

I'm done with reach and am looking forward to the next big thing, reach had absolutely no lasting appeal, thats what happens when you ship a game with a pathetic number of maps then not even a month out announced a ripoff map pack.

Reach is the last bungie game I ever buy.

  • 10.14.2010 4:59 PM PDT

Reply fail

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  • 10.14.2010 5:06 PM PDT

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I don't have a problem with the price. 800 MS Points for three maps is fair. That said, this map pack should have been free. Not because I feel entitled or anything silly like that. But because Halo: Reach was launched with a very small amount of maps. And I don't care what Bungie says, Forge World counts as ONE map, not five.

Anybody in the community could have recreated the Halo 2 remakes(probably even better versions) and The Cage and Paradiso are to the of the most hated maps.

Halo: CE shipped with 13 maps, Halo 2 shipped with 12 and Halo 3 shipped with 11. See the trend here? Halo: Reach shipped with a record low 9 multiplayer maps! We have to buy a map pack just to get the amount of maps we used to get with the game itself.

I have a real problem with Bungie shipping a game with so few maps only to release a map pack two months later and charge us for it.

  • 10.14.2010 5:08 PM PDT


Posted by: gibonez
3 maps for 10 dollars.

What a bloody ripoff.

1 month in and I don't want to even touch reach again.

I'm done with reach and am looking forward to the next big thing, reach had absolutely no lasting appeal, thats what happens when you ship a game with a pathetic number of maps then not even a month out announced a ripoff map pack.

Reach is the last bungie game I ever buy.


Speak for yourself, Ill be playing Reach for years [i]and[i] Im going to buy this map pack the day it comes out. Ditto for future mappacks

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  • 10.14.2010 5:10 PM PDT

Well, I agree in a certain respect. Yes, the game feels uber rushed, but it still has its core greatness. The major difficulty is Maps. Not just for Team Slayer, but for everyone. I got tired of Invasion in less than an hour because of the repetitiveness of the maps. BTB is ridiculous. Hemorrage? Really? Out of ALL the remastered maps, you choose the one that is now on its 3rd rendition? When something like Colossus, Headlong or Waterworks deserves a promising remake due to the outstanding crossplaying games (ie Slayer, BTB, One bomb, multiflag) worked so well on those larger maps. I will hold out hope for user created free maps. I am happy that TFUII is comiing out.

  • 10.14.2010 5:14 PM PDT