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Subject: Citadel Fleet (Mass Effect) VS UNSC (Halo)

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I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.

Citadel fleet would propably win, due the fact that Turian's, salarian's and Asari's are pretty huge. Especially Turians peace keeping fleet has what, over 30 dreadnaughts?

UNSC still has some pretty awesome things, but they still arent in same level as in ME.

Nothing beats 40k in the end. Its just so original, and everything is just made to be sick. 8 kilometer long ships with crew of 3 million men. Only star wars has ships of size like that.

And for ending, this is the reason why ME would win:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M

You dont mess with Sir Isaac Newton.

  • 12.01.2010 10:15 PM PDT

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The UNSC have laser weaponry on their prowlers and with time i think they could upgrade most of their ships with lasers

  • 12.02.2010 3:51 AM PDT

Yes, I'm a furry. And yes, I like men. So what?

I think a UNSC NOVA can beat just about anything.

  • 12.02.2010 4:58 AM PDT


Posted by: teekuppi
Citadel fleet would propably win, due the fact that Turian's, salarian's and Asari's are pretty huge. Especially Turians peace keeping fleet has what, over 30 dreadnaughts?

UNSC still has some pretty awesome things, but they still arent in same level as in ME.

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NOVA bomb could destroy the citidel in one shot. Just put it in a slip space cannon (yes, those exist, the UNSC could destroy targets anywhere in the galaxy from any distance) and profit.

UNSC doesn't even have to fight.

  • 12.02.2010 5:42 AM PDT


Posted by: fsabran
The UNSC have laser weaponry on their prowlers and with time i think they could upgrade most of their ships with lasers


Plus, unlike Citadel stealth ships, Prowlers actually turn invisible

  • 12.02.2010 7:52 AM PDT

Mass effect technology is way more advanced than Halo's.

  • 12.02.2010 8:04 AM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.

Actualy it isn't

  • 12.02.2010 8:28 AM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.

even if ME tecnology is more advanced its military sucks and they don't have Chuck Norris or Gruntiness

  • 12.02.2010 9:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: fsabran
even if ME tecnology is more advanced its military sucks and they don't have Chuck Norris or Gruntiness
They have Wrex. Sure he isn't part of the Citadel fleet but he just wants to be where the action is so it wouldn't matter.

Or Zaeed. Big goddamn hero.

  • 12.02.2010 9:13 AM PDT

Get back to reading the forum, no one looks at these anyways.

she would be like cortana and hack every thing

  • 12.02.2010 1:25 PM PDT


Posted by: SilverBulitt82
Mass effect technology is way more advanced than Halo's.


I lol'd. not to belittle you, but...

they can drop a planet cracking bomb on any target anywhere in the galaxy, at any time without ever once having to engage the enemy?

They can crush suns into black holes and supernovas?

They can destroy the galaxy with the push of a button?

They can build entire planets and build artficial stars?

They have the technology to wreck three fully shielded warships in one shot?

The technology to go transgalactic, or even the other side of the galaxy without the use of powerful portals?

And they can do all this without a magical element (zero)?

Like I said, the ME fleet would be destroyed without even realizing what killed them (super-luminal NOVA bomb. loopholes FTW!)

  • 12.02.2010 2:26 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: SilverBulitt82
Mass effect technology is way more advanced than Halo's.


I lol'd. not to belittle you, but...

they can drop a planet cracking bomb on any target anywhere in the galaxy, at any time without ever once having to engage the enemy?

They can crush suns into black holes and supernovas?

They can destroy the galaxy with the push of a button?

They can build entire planets and build artficial stars?

They have the technology to wreck three fully shielded warships in one shot?

The technology to go transgalactic, or even the other side of the galaxy without the use of powerful portals?

And they can do all this without a magical element (zero)?

Like I said, the ME fleet would be destroyed without even realizing what killed them (super-luminal NOVA bomb. loopholes FTW!)

FINALLY!!!!!

Bioware not being able to drop the magic in a Sci-Fi is the biggest turn-off for me for the ME universe (not the games self, that Star Trek style universe).

  • 12.02.2010 3:25 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...

Citadel Fleet wins... Not even a real contest.

  • 12.02.2010 3:27 PM PDT

Posted by: zash208
UNSC wins... Not even a real contest.

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  • 12.02.2010 3:31 PM PDT

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  • 12.02.2010 3:34 PM PDT
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Fire for Effect. Fire and Forget.

Well... In my game most of the fleet is Human... so... yeah.

  • 12.02.2010 3:46 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...


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Posted by: zash208
Citadel wins... Not even a real contest.

Fix'd

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  • 12.02.2010 3:48 PM PDT


Posted by: zash208

Posted by: Vercetti24
Posted by: zash208
Citadel wins... Not even a real contest.

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contemplate the gigaton force of the SMAC, the 1.2 petaton planet wrecker and the ability to destrroy targets with said planet wrecker from across the galaxy via slip-space cannon before posting.

It isn't a matter of who'd win in a fight, its only a matter of the fact the ME fleet litarally is powerless to do anything! There wouldn't BE a fight, only a really, really powerful explosion right in the middle of the Citadel, vaporizing the station and perforating any ship near it.
Posted by: zash208

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Posted by: zash208
UNSC wins... Not even a real contest.

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[Edited on 12.02.2010 4:06 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2010 4:04 PM PDT


Posted by: zash208

Posted by: Vercetti24
Posted by: zash208
UNSC wins... Not even a real contest.

Fix'd

Don't fix anything that isn't broken.

Yep, you're right so I still have to fix your broken post. Do some research about both universes and then come back. Since I'm just not in the mood to explain this again I'll give you a short version:
Dreadnought's would be the only ships that are able to effectively combat weaker UNSC ships, until they get hit by a MAC or a nuke or couple hunderd Archers (GARDIAN defenses are easy to overwhelm and ME shields are much weaker and inferior when compared to Energy Shielding), sadly the amount of Dreadnoughts is very low, Heavy Cruisers have much weaker cannons and are smaller.
38 kiloton is enough to one shot most Citadel ships, let me get some numbers:
UNSC Frigate MAC: something between 60-70 kiloton
Super MAC: 51,6 Gigaton (this one is superior to Dreadnought's cannons, same RoF, but higher projectile speed and 3000ton >>>>> 20kg)
HORNET Space Mine: 30 Megaton, overkill on every Citadel vessel
HAVOK Tactical Nuclear Weapon: 30 Megaton and they also come nicely packed in a missile (tactic Spam Archers till GARDIAN overheats, fire da nuke, enhoy the show)
NOVA Bomb: 1,2 Petaton, let me get this in ME friendly numbers:
1.200.000.000.000 Kiloton.

UNSC firing weapons through Slipspace = suprise NOVA at the Citadel -> Aliens are in chaos

Prowlers use Pulse Lasers, energy weapons ignore kinetic barriers and ME ships aren't exactly heavy armored, a Splazer would probably be able to take out a Frigate...

Plus UNSC being a real military, not a bunch of Federation wannabes is also an advantage...

  • 12.02.2010 4:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Vercetti24

Posted by: zash208

Posted by: Vercetti24
Posted by: zash208
UNSC wins... Not even a real contest.

Fix'd

Don't fix anything that isn't broken.

Yep, you're right so I still have to fix your broken post. Do some research about both universes and then come back. Since I'm just not in the mood to explain this again I'll give you a short version:
Dreadnought's would be the only ships that are able to effectively combat weaker UNSC ships, until they get hit by a MAC or a nuke or couple hunderd Archers (GARDIAN defenses are easy to overwhelm and ME shields are much weaker and inferior when compared to Energy Shielding), sadly the amount of Dreadnoughts is very low, Heavy Cruisers have much weaker cannons and are smaller.
38 kiloton is enough to one shot most Citadel ships, let me get some numbers:
UNSC Frigate MAC: something between 60-70 kiloton
Super MAC: 51,6 Gigaton (this one is superior to Dreadnought's cannons, same RoF, but higher projectile speed and 3000ton >>>>> 20kg)
HORNET Space Mine: 30 Megaton, overkill on every Citadel vessel
HAVOK Tactical Nuclear Weapon: 30 Megaton and they also come nicely packed in a missile (tactic Spam Archers till GARDIAN overheats, fire da nuke, enhoy the show)
NOVA Bomb: 1,2 Petaton, let me get this in ME friendly numbers:
1.200.000.000.000 Kiloton.

UNSC firing weapons through Slipspace = suprise NOVA at the Citadel -> Aliens are in chaos

Prowlers use Pulse Lasers, energy weapons ignore kinetic barriers and ME ships aren't exactly heavy armored, a Splazer would probably be able to take out a Frigate...

Plus UNSC being a real military, not a bunch of Federation wannabes is also an advantage...


The only weapon I ever saw the ME fleet use that could destroy a UNSC ship was the shoop da whoop esque laser blast that destroyed the Collector ship at the end of ME 2.

That was pretty beast, but that's assumning the UNSC would even give them the chance...

  • 12.02.2010 4:21 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: zash208

Posted by: Vercetti24
Posted by: zash208
Citadel wins... Not even a real contest.

Fix'd

Don't fix anything that isn't broken.


contemplate the gigaton force of the SMAC, the 1.2 petaton planet wrecker and the ability to destrroy targets with said planet wrecker from across the galaxy via slip-space cannon before posting.

It isn't a matter of who'd win in a fight, its only a matter of the fact the ME fleet litarally is powerless to do anything! There wouldn't BE a fight, only a really, really powerful explosion right in the middle of the Citadel, vaporizing the station and perforating any ship near it.

Plus you can;t forget the Citadel Fleet wouldn't do anything since it could start a war with Terminus Systems!
btw Did anyone notice any kind of government there in ME2? I most certainly didn't, if the Council is scared of some stupid merc bands then how would they react when meeting UNSC? I see some heart attacks and fingerquotes!

And it's not like Citadel Fleet could reach UNSC territory, I didn't saw any Mass Relays there...

  • 12.02.2010 4:23 PM PDT
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The big problem for the UNSC is they have almost nothing that can actually hit the ME ships, while the ME ships can hit the UNSC ships and move away long before any UNSC counter attack reaches them.

  • 12.02.2010 4:28 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Vercetti24

Posted by: zash208

Posted by: Vercetti24
Posted by: zash208
UNSC wins... Not even a real contest.

Fix'd

Don't fix anything that isn't broken.

Yep, you're right so I still have to fix your broken post. Do some research about both universes and then come back. Since I'm just not in the mood to explain this again I'll give you a short version:
Dreadnought's would be the only ships that are able to effectively combat weaker UNSC ships, until they get hit by a MAC or a nuke or couple hunderd Archers (GARDIAN defenses are easy to overwhelm and ME shields are much weaker and inferior when compared to Energy Shielding), sadly the amount of Dreadnoughts is very low, Heavy Cruisers have much weaker cannons and are smaller.
38 kiloton is enough to one shot most Citadel ships, let me get some numbers:
UNSC Frigate MAC: something between 60-70 kiloton
Super MAC: 51,6 Gigaton (this one is superior to Dreadnought's cannons, same RoF, but higher projectile speed and 3000ton >>>>> 20kg)
HORNET Space Mine: 30 Megaton, overkill on every Citadel vessel
HAVOK Tactical Nuclear Weapon: 30 Megaton and they also come nicely packed in a missile (tactic Spam Archers till GARDIAN overheats, fire da nuke, enhoy the show)
NOVA Bomb: 1,2 Petaton, let me get this in ME friendly numbers:
1.200.000.000.000 Kiloton.

UNSC firing weapons through Slipspace = suprise NOVA at the Citadel -> Aliens are in chaos

Prowlers use Pulse Lasers, energy weapons ignore kinetic barriers and ME ships aren't exactly heavy armored, a Splazer would probably be able to take out a Frigate...

Plus UNSC being a real military, not a bunch of Federation wannabes is also an advantage...


The only weapon I ever saw the ME fleet use that could destroy a UNSC ship was the shoop da whoop esque laser blast that destroyed the Collector ship at the end of ME 2.

That was pretty beast, but that's assumning the UNSC would even give them the chance...

The Thanix Cannon is a prototype and its expansive and it's not a laser blast, its super heated metal.
Nobody uses it since a prototype and its to expansive, we only saw Shepard using it in ME2 and he is not part of the Citadel Fleet in ME2. So untill any canon source clearly gives us a Citadel ship that uses them I don't really see them as a vialable option. Plus you need much less firepower to destroy a ME ship and that beam wasn't exactly fast...
A UNSC Super Carrier would still lol at the futile attemps to destoy it though...

  • 12.02.2010 4:29 PM PDT


Posted by: opogjijijp
The big problem for the UNSC is they have almost nothing that can actually hit the ME ships, while the ME ships can hit the UNSC ships and move away long before any UNSC counter attack reaches them.

Do people actually bother to read anything from the thread before posting?

  • 12.02.2010 4:30 PM PDT


Posted by: opogjijijp
The big problem for the UNSC is they have almost nothing that can actually hit the ME ships, while the ME ships can hit the UNSC ships and move away long before any UNSC counter attack reaches them.


Archer missiles and Nukes with missile tracking, NOVA bomb, AI tracking while using the MAC (impossible to miss btw) Prowler pulse lasers, Hawks Spatan Lasers (which bypass kinetic barriers).

That or the MAC could be used for the DA, save the nukes and missiles for the smaller ships.

Or, again, just slip-space NOVA bomb the fleet without ever risking a single UNSC soul...

  • 12.02.2010 4:35 PM PDT