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Subject: Team Hardcore Playlist is Live
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Posted by: Prowlaz
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TEAMHARDCORE IS MEGA -blam!-!!!!!!!!!!!! IT NEEDS TO BE SLAYER NOT SKIRMISH GAMES FREAKING IDIOTS. IF BUNGIE WAS SO SMART THEY WOULD PUT WHAT PPL WANTED INSTEAD OF WHAT BUNGIE WANTS YOU GUYS ARE STUPID


Before you start to SPAM and FLAME you should get your head out of your ass.

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT TEAM HARDCORE.

This playlist and every aspect WAS voted upon by the players. NOT BUNGIE.

IDIOT!



good call chavez....






ALTHOUGH.... i didnt enjoy my games so far in thee playlist... not because of the competition.... but because.... it just wasnt really fun....


after a couple games i went back to owning in snipers....



i am not gonna say boo because the more eplaylists the marrier.... just not exactly my cup of tea.... so long as i can reach about a 20 in it ill be happy. and probly stop playing it... thats my goal... to get all of my ranks in the 20s.... im about half way there...




which takes more skill.... SMG OR BR

i belivie the awnser to this is smg... the br is just a headshot palace.... and if someone takes the first shot on you about 80% of the time or moree your dead.... but with smgs..... NOT true... plus you see allot of noobs just holding the triggers down instead of controlling their fire... which causes them to shoot the cieling....



^^^ and toy.... i dissagree.... your just too -blam!- picky. no one wants to hear you -blam!- because you suck.




Ok, I have something to point out. ErnieChavez, posted 5 messages, not a single one relevant to the topic. Out of those 5 messages, all 5 of them were only used to express a form of anger or hatred towards another member, simply for disagreeing with his "opinion" which shown like this, should no longer be taken into account. In one of those 5 messages, Ernie brings up an excellent point, you should not flame or spam,

very good point...



People call that farting, but i call it IGNORANCE.

he is the ignorant one eh? when you make 5 posts like the man said and not a god damn one of them has -blam!- to do with the playlist. go the -blam!- away... news threads likee this ar ereally only meant to post once and to post your opinion on the news... maybe post again once or twice to talk about THE NEWS.... not ignorantly doing what your sitting there telling other people not to do.



First you say i made a good call, then you say i'm ignorant.

Make up your mind.

  • 10.19.2005 11:31 AM PDT
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dear bungie,
i first want to start out and say pretty good job on the new playlist. it is definately a step closer to what my friends in my gaming comunity are looking for. no radar is great, it keeps the game moving and now you rely more on reaction than on anticipation ! also by not having a radar, it has helped to make all the weapons (especially the short ranged ones) when duel weilding more effective and usefull due to the fact that you can now actually get within a good range to use them before the enemy descides that maybe he should check his six! i will not comment on the REGRESSION of the giant "X" through the motion detector! now thats just stupid.... i mean why not just make it dissappear like in Halo CE:, or even how about just a circle with no activity or NO "X"?just an inactive circle. in our opinions, that was a BIG fumbalusky. We are also curious to know why you still run so slow while carrying the flag etc. i mean all the good players just toss the thing in front of them and pick it up again so why not just disable the "run slow with flag" option?! We also feel that a great addition would be to activate "EXTRA DAMAGE" especially in the objective type games! Now add those 2 features and you really have a hardcore list! We would have also liked to see more Team Slayer and classic CTF games in the list. i mean lets face it, no matter how much bungie wants(or thinks) their assault games are going to be very popular, IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! Its lame its boring and noone is ever thrilled in the lobby when those games are selected. this is a no brainer and you guys really need to start to think about what your loyal hardcore Halo gamers really want.

and last but never least, we still would rather play classic CTF over any game out there and there are alot of players who would like to see a classic CTF playlist. mainly with human weapons and on the maps that have vehicle play we would like to see Hogs Only and these games would be played on symetrical maps to create the most balanced playlist yet. its not like there isnt enough maps to do a playlist like this, i believe there are 11 (eleven). thats more than enough to create a Hardcore CTF playlist. please give us a thought when you go to create the next list.

thanks again bungie, not an entirely horrible job on the new list.

BTW, we think you guys screwed up bigtime when someone quits and the game continues. especially in objective games. if someone quits or is booted for modding , the game should end, its that simple... put us right back to matchmaking and find another game. it just ruins the momentum so much when this happens , especially when the host box quits and we have to wait for youguys to pick another server from the remaining players. it is definately a bright and very intelligent idea but in our opinions, it does NOT make sense especially when it comes down to 4v1 and the single just hides in a corner and the game lasts way too long!

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  • 10.19.2005 1:57 PM PDT

"Go then. There are other worlds than these."

Wow. I played a bit last night but could only stomach three games before I started crying. The goal of making it difficult has been achieved. I got spanked like the naughty little monkey I am.

I really like the whole concept and in a couple weeks when most of the insanely good players have leveled up beyond my meager skillz then I will absolutely be jumping back in there. I saw good variety; in the three games I attmpted I got a Crazy King, Ball, and a Slayer... and on different maps. Those maps are now painted with my blood but that's the whole point isn't it?

Clearly I need to work on my accuracy and team communication. I think that spending time with Team Hardcore will make me a better player. If I can survive long enough to learn something that is.

I do shake my head though at all the folks who still complain that Bungie isn't listening. From where I'm sitting it looks like they are making a serious effort to develop and test new playlists that try to meet the eleventy-billion requests that they receive for different gametypes. They can't do them all but they are trying to meet the needs of the majority of the players. Sure, there's stuff in there that frustrates me... BR spawn camping on Warlock being pretty high on the list... but when it got to be too much I switched to a different playlist.

I look forward to seeing what the next update will bring!

Juggernaut?

  • 10.19.2005 4:22 PM PDT
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After further playing hardcore I have come to a new opinion. I know feel the fun level is down do the fact that I play more skirmish, than slayer. ETC. like crazy king, on Beaver Creek Twice in a row and one more time later today. The whole idea of battle riffles and other non default weapons is grand and no radar makes the battle more difficult. However a little more killing would probably enchance the overall hardcore experience.



HALO STILLS TEABAGS ALL THE COMPETION!!!!!!

  • 10.19.2005 6:26 PM PDT
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Yes, the playlists are awesome... Its just for some reason whoever gets host , it still lags. It doesn't lag in customs though... I really don't understand why. Why would it lag in MatchMaking and not customs...Yes, some are farther away but my point here is. I think you guys should try to make dedicated servers or something so its even for everyone on map. Then lag would not be a prob. IT would actually be a skill to try to get good at. If you guys could do this that would be awesome!

  • 10.19.2005 7:02 PM PDT
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Dude Team Hardcore is a Hoax. It's just another way to get higher leveled people High levels in another game type. This is a scam. man, I can't believe that they did this. It's not cool. It looks cool and sounds cool, but it sucks.

I went against a 38 the first time I did the stupid game type. And to top it all off, it was a capture the flag game too. It's real stupid, Sad to say...

  • 10.20.2005 12:09 PM PDT
Subject: Team Hardcore Is "Hardcore"
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Wow, I lost the 2 only games I ever played in team Hardcore. I couldn't stand it! They frickin' KILLED ME! I went nuts, "What are you doin'? Why did you commit suicide? YOU SUCK YOU NOOB!!!!!!" To make matters even better, one of my teammates was a 16 year old girl who was like givin' me Z snaps from her room. She actually started crying!


So now because of team hardcore, I am now rsponsible for killing a girls heart... GEE TANKS HARDCORE!!!

  • 10.20.2005 12:18 PM PDT
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are there sheilds in this "team hardcore"?

  • 10.20.2005 6:15 PM PDT
Subject: Why not Team Hardcore and Slayer Hardcore?
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when bungie was deciding the percentage between teamslayer and team stuff (mostly oddball), 60/40, 70/30, why not just have both. sounds simple? no? ? ?

  • 10.21.2005 7:27 PM PDT
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I played CTF Classic on Beaver Creek and it was the stupidest game I have ever played. There is no flag dropped indicator and it was a rediculus waste of time.

  • 10.22.2005 6:47 AM PDT
Subject: Team Hardcore Playlist is Live
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Posted by: ErnieChavez
which takes more skill.... SMG OR BR
i belivie the awnser to this is smg... the br is just a headshot palace.... and if someone takes the first shot on you about 80% of the time or moree your dead.... but with smgs..... NOT true... plus you see allot of noobs just holding the triggers down instead of controlling their fire... which causes them to shoot the cieling....

/\ (SLAPS THE DUMMY FOR THINKING SMG ACTUALLY TAKES SKILL)
1. SMG has so much autoaim compared 2 BR. BR is an all purpose gun which does the same damage close and long range. Learning how 2 use it in both situations is alot harder than just burst firing someone with an SMG from close or long range.... And theres a reason why they reward people doing headshots....BECAUSE IT TAKES SKILL AND ACCURACY!

2. Only an bad player cannot control the recoil from the smg. Also an inexperienced player will get shot by the BR, Then try 2 purpously stay out in the open at the same area, and try 2 out BR the other person without any form of evasion, cover, damage spike (such as melee or grenades),retreat, or any combination of those. In YOUR situation, of course 80% of the time ur going 2 die. And the other 20% ur not is if the person is just plain bad or screwes up at aiming; which seems 2 be the skill level of you and people ur playing with.

3. If u know how 2 play the game, u wont die by the first shot of BR as easliy as you portray people to do. Its the advantage of the first shot that is important, not the fact that u did it! And advantages can be taken away by damage spikes and mistakes... The mechanics and speed of the BR makes it so if 1 person screwes up, you can counter, and kill them. Thats why BR takes skill. The fact that in order 2 be effective with it, you have 2 be mistake free and precise with every shot, becuase each shot does significant damage. Unlike the SMG, which does minimal damage. But has a large clip, fast ammunition, huge reticule, and a large ammount of auto aim (which is increased with burst fire) 2 fix ur mistakes.

So id like 2 hear What are you going 2 say next? Sword or Shotgun takes more skill than Sniper?! Or r u going 2 say that Assault Rifle takes more skill than the all-mighty pistol in H1?!

  • 10.23.2005 10:46 AM PDT
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I am a pro at the game and i dont usually use the noob combo but that is part of the game just as the sniper is they are just in the game and you need to accept it usually people just use the noob combo as an excuse for sucking. If you are complaining about someone having it dont forget that you are also capable of getting it. Its not like only one person can get it plus if you are skilled as you say you should be able to beat it by avoiding the pistol to begin with. So im saying this now everyone STOP USING THE COMBO AS AN EXCUSE IF YOU SUCK DONT BLAME IT ON THE WEAPONS!

  • 10.24.2005 10:04 AM PDT
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hardcore is super fun :0 Gg

  • 10.24.2005 5:00 PM PDT
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Hardcore is -blam!- because everyone wants to be a 50 in that so they mod and it is just random and it is mostly -blam!- games like plots or king of the hill and i think bungie should take it off or make it unraked playlist.

  • 10.24.2005 6:01 PM PDT
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  • 10.24.2005 7:14 PM PDT
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Team hardcore is pretty good stuff.
i think i like it because i play a lot of swatt and i have gotten used to all this no shield stuff
fun stuff.
DON CRY AND PLAY THE GAME PEOPLE


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  • 10.24.2005 8:44 PM PDT
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yah i'd have to agree with XcoMmandoX the sword is a really sorry excuse to get kills in matchmaking, make it have an energy restriction or something its kinda dumb. I see kids come in a game and get a kill on a team mate with the sword and they're like yah beat that! than i turn around and beat em down when they have the sword. Team hardcore is pretty fun though i've only played like 20 games but it's ok.

  • 10.25.2005 8:53 PM PDT
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To all you 'Pro's' out there and those slating the n00b combo my view is that if it is there - use it! I don't care if you have a pistol and I have a rocket launcher, I'm not going to change to my pistol for reasons of valour, I'm gonna blow your ass out the sky! If you have the skillz to jump around me and crack me on the back of the skull then fine! I'll respect you for being a great player.
I guess my point is that not all of us take it so seriously. I play for FUN (remember that word) and I only care about my ranking for purposes of matching me against similarly skilled players.
Another thing - those of you getting whipped on this new playlist, give it some time and all the highly ranked players will be outa there then you can play against those of similar skill.
I'm looking forward to giving it a try and I appreciate the new playlist. Few ideas for ya Bungie:
1) Everyone seems to like slayer - maybe tip the balance from objective to slayer on this new team hardcore playlist.
2) Some random madness may be fun. Some of my favourite custom games are those where the first weapon is random.
3) The sword REALLY needs to be restricted in terms of ammo (like in campaign). From what I can see on this and other threads this would be welcomed by almost everyone.

Over and out.

  • 10.26.2005 6:44 AM PDT
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Come on! True Hardcore has always been Slayer, just Battle Rifles, no shields, no radar, no powerups or secondary weapons or weapons on map or grenades or vehicles or anything, nothing but shooting people in the head. Lots of deaths and kills for everyone, and lots of fun. I know it's simplistic and requires little strategy, but that's fun because it's all about skill and reflexes, and maybe a little luck. Pick a new name, Bungie; this isn't hardcore, maybe "Medio-core" is more fitting.

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  • 10.26.2005 8:30 AM PDT
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not that bad just want to know the playlist

  • 10.28.2005 2:56 PM PDT

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