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Subject: Halo 2 Detailed Game Data Notice

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

There are two parts to the data uploaded to us after each game of Halo 2. The first set of data goes to Xbox Live. This is the XP/Level info that notes your win or loss and handles your XP gain/loss. This system operated normally. However, the other part of the data gets uploaded to a set of dedicated severs that are responsible for processing the detailed data - the game viewer and the post game carnage report. This data, normally available under the Games tab on a player's stat page, was lost due a network failure on this hardware. This failure affected both the primary and the backup.

The missing games still counted in terms of experience points and level, they just won't have any detailed information or game viewer available. They won't even appear in the list of games played. We apologize for the data loss, and are taking steps to prevent this failure from happening in the future.

  • 10.19.2005 12:09 PM PDT
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First, and lost the data for an oddball game in which we came back by 2:30 to win by just 1 second as time expired :(( Was quite possibly the most incredibly intense finish to a game I've ever had in my life.

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  • 10.19.2005 12:22 PM PDT

i keep my posts clean, please do the same =].

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Wow...well, hopefully the problem gets fixed...get well soon Halo 2!

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  • 10.19.2005 12:24 PM PDT
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That sucks for a few peoples. But at least Bungie is on top of things and bothered to mention that something went amiss.

  • 10.19.2005 12:36 PM PDT
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Thanks for the heads up.

  • 10.19.2005 1:14 PM PDT
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Wow, yesterday i had 57 kills and 36 head shots on king of the hill at lockout and i cant look at my stats.



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  • 10.19.2005 1:14 PM PDT
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You guys are only human, we can't blame you. And --blam-- happens.

  • 10.19.2005 2:45 PM PDT
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7th sorry

atleast they didnt leave it a mystery..

  • 10.19.2005 3:28 PM PDT
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that stinks o well.i still had fun.

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  • 10.19.2005 4:01 PM PDT
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Dang. Now I can't proove to a friend that I know he didn't get 48 kills.... nevermind. Oh well, I still love you, Bungie!

  • 10.19.2005 4:08 PM PDT
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Thats good to know, I feel great now. So im going to dance.

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  • 10.19.2005 4:11 PM PDT

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You guys got it easy I lost my first and only *killamajaro* in an actual game....... oh well i'll just try to get another... though it wont be the same..... meh

yeah thanks anyway bungie -blam!- happens i can live with it.
either that or it got purged due to oldness wateva its gone.

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  • 10.19.2005 4:17 PM PDT
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In that game data loss time, I was paired against tons of bridgers in Team Hardcore, and I was going to report these people, but now I have no proof. I'll probably just give Bungie their gamertags because these people are ruining the greatest playlist of all time. I hope to get all the boosters in the party with them banned as well, like they should be.

  • 10.19.2005 4:31 PM PDT

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that sucks but thanks for the news :D

  • 10.19.2005 4:41 PM PDT
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somebody got fired

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  • 10.19.2005 5:10 PM PDT
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I sincerely doubt if any of the Bungie staff actually read these forums, however if I'm wrong Bungie, <LET ME KNOW>
-While I agree that cheaters have all but ruined this game online, and that the leaderboards are a testament to those with absolutely no life and no grasp of the real world, taking them away is hardly going to fix anything. As long as they play for rank, that imaginary number represents their whole LIFE for the past year. The players at Bungie know this, and stick mostly to their LAN games.
-I cant blame them, online has become a wasteland of cheaters anywhere above lvl. 30.
How many times have you played someone modding and actually heard them get excited about getting a killtacular, or talk about "owning" you? As if they had done something.
-Like most legit players I waited anxiously for each patch I downloaded, thinking that each time it would get better. As I played on however, I noticed slowly but surely all the cheaters resumed their stand-by-ing, their modding, their lag devices. Even as they were being banned in droves, an endless supply of 2-month cards kept these A**holes in the lifestyle they were accustomed to.
As my online Halo experience became more and more jaded, so did I.

The sad fact is this;

the people at Bungie are as much to blame as the cheaters.

-Do you really think the players at Bungie dont cheat while online? To be able to win at the game THEY created? Glitches in the code like modding and super-jumps were implemented by Bungie programmers to give them a "secret" edge. Now that secret edge has become a virtual Pandora's box. They wasted time with compensating patches, and auto-banning progams when there are REAL steps Bungie and XBOX live could have taken to truly ban and eliminate the cheaters. --For instance;
-They could have matched the cheating player to their credit card number or their IP address, and banned that account and user from XBOX LIVE, not just from Halo match-making. Also, each XBOX console produces a unique serial code online, giving them a tangible way of tracking and punishing those ruining online gaming. However, the truth is that its too expensive for them to follow up on so many cheaters, and between Bungie and Microsoft no one can decide whose responsibilty it is to get rid of cheaters. The money they spend trying to fix all these problems is actually beginning to cut into the astounding amount of money WE paid them for Halo 2. You know they cant have that...not with a new office to finance, and God knows what else the gamers have helped them pay for.
The end result: they cut their losses and move forward with Halo 3, and Halo the movie.
More money for the Microsoft cash cow.

Thanks for a job well done Bungie. Now like Microsoft you truly are a major corporation; stepping on so many heads to get to the top, leaving those who supported you from the beginning on the floor.

-Just a little advice for Halo 3; -Dont blow it by announcing an early release date. TAKE YOUR TIME to insure the code isnt faulty, and try to remember you started out just like us, design Halo 3 to that end.

  • 10.19.2005 6:16 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 2 Detailed Game Data Notice
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Oh, that's why the games I played between 3:24 and 6:22 PM never showed up. At least the experience I gained and wins/games played showed up.

  • 10.20.2005 4:56 AM PDT
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Is ok as long as you fix it. Good Luck because is the only way to prove if someone Mod.

  • 10.20.2005 6:32 AM PDT
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I know this really isn't related but is there a way to calculate how much experience you get?

  • 10.20.2005 8:28 AM PDT
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At least Bungie was up front about the problem and didn't try to hide the problem. That shows integrity. Something I believe Bungie has always had and will have in the future.

Thanks for being honest . Later, dave

  • 10.20.2005 8:40 AM PDT
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that day i played my first team hardcore and got 29 kills. it was four of them against three of us and all i used was the BR while they had overshield, rockets, sword, and noob combos

  • 10.20.2005 6:59 PM PDT
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Hey, thanks for letting us know. Me and my friends would be curious to see some of the servers or details on how your backend network for XBox Live and Halo2 work. I realize you can't/shouldn't provide detailed specifics out of security concerns, but how about just a few pics inside the datacenter, or the network layout, the NOC, something. Just an idea - thanks

  • 10.21.2005 10:05 AM PDT
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hi tom last night i was playing halo 2 and it laged a little plus for 2 hours i could not join some of my friends i shut my xbox down for 10 sec and it worked fine am i seeing this because of the computer problem you guys are having or is it microsoft please tell me what you think thanks so much :)

  • 10.26.2005 5:34 AM PDT
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Are you guys sure no XP/level data was lost too? Before Tuesday I was a 19. I just logged in at about 4:50pm EST on Tuesday and now my rank is 14... What happened? I know this isn't affecting everyone, since I asked everyone i was playing with. Even so, I know I'm not the only one affected either. One of my friends had the same thing happen to him. Anyone care to mention what's going on here?

  • 11.08.2005 2:13 PM PDT
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Yo i would like to knoq why on halo i lost about 20 levels when i signed on??? I didn't even do anything!!!

  • 11.08.2005 3:02 PM PDT

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