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Subject: Why is bungie........
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Just wondering why bungie is doing a few things:
1) Not driving with the flag AND Destructible vehicles: Now personally i hated being able to drive with the flag and indestructable, it made it so unbalanced. But not letting you drive, and having destructable vehicles is just as bad. They need to have it either you drive with the flag and destructable vehicles, or not drive with the flag and indestrucatable vehicles because this balances it out. Another thing would be if they could make something on vehicles that you can slot the flag into, then drive and then jump out go around grab the flag and it can be shot out.
2) Not being able to holster dual wielding weapons. We saw MC holstering two weapons at the E3 2003 but then at E3 2004 it appears not able to. Why is this. It is only realistic that you would be able to holster guns that were one handed, like pistols SMG's even in the books he was able to holster two SMG's i really dont get why bungie is doing this it was one of the best features of dual wileding. Me and alot of people i know who play halo and folow halo 2 were so relieved that you could holster them but now what happened Bungie. Maybe you will be able to holster them on SP but they needed to balance it out in MP.
I would like to note: these are not complaint, i am by no means complaining i am just pointing out things that could possibly be undesireable elements.
Post your thoughts but please dont go all saying i am an idiot or flaming.

  • 08.13.2004 6:28 PM PDT
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Both add stratagy

  • 08.13.2004 6:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ericimo
Both add stratagy

Well the first doesnt add strategy.......wait no i am wrong it does add strategy but it adds too much strategy, just like in halo it made it too little strategy, bungie needs to balance it like all the other stuff they are balancing.
The second has absolutely Nothing to do with STRATEGY WHATSOEVER, it has to do with coolness.

  • 08.13.2004 6:33 PM PDT
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More realistic, have you ever tried driving with a seven foot flag?

  • 08.13.2004 6:35 PM PDT
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has Bungie actually STATED that you can not holster dual weapons while using a third? cause im pretty sure i never saw that....as far as i know

you can have one two-handed weapon and holster 2 other weapons that are being dual wielded.....on the other hand

someone told me that when you switch to your two handed weapon after dual wielding you drop one of the dual wielding weapons.....(this i dont believe and is pretty stupid, that is unless it is stated as a fact somewhere)

  • 08.13.2004 6:36 PM PDT
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yes you are complaining... you complaining about things you assume from watching videos (well number 2 anywho) i never thought tha driving with the flag was fair in the first place... so i like what they are doing.. i like hot you have to have a driver or your walking... driving while holding a 6 foot flag doesnt seem to be the easiest thing to do in the first place...

  • 08.13.2004 6:36 PM PDT
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You can't holster Dual Weapons, because umm, if you already had another gun holstered you couldn't hold three, and you need to always be holding atleast one gun, it's a FPS.

2 weapons in the hand
+ 1 in the Holster
=1 too many guns.

  • 08.13.2004 6:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nightshade000

someone told me that when you switch to your two handed weapon after dual wielding you drop one of the dual wielding weapons.....(this i dont believe and is pretty stupid, that is unless it is stated as a fact somewhere)


that is what he means by not being able to holster 2 weapons...

  • 08.13.2004 6:38 PM PDT
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I dont like it either,but im gonna but it anyway

  • 08.13.2004 6:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Y2Franchise
More realistic, have you ever tried driving with a seven foot flag?
Like i said Balance balance balance, besides the idea of a slot for the flag is good, PLUS THEY ARE SPARTANS so it wouldn't be too much of a problem. If they want it realistic they can have the spartans rip the flag off the pole and stuff it into that magic pocket where all the weapons and ammo goes.

  • 08.13.2004 6:38 PM PDT
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Good point. Always kinda slips my mind (the spartan thing), I do like it though just cause it sounds like it will be better in multiplayer cause now you jump in the passenger seat and let your friend drive (at least I heard thats still available.)

  • 08.13.2004 6:40 PM PDT
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if you cant holster two dual wielded weapons im gonna be dissapointed... well i just wanna get my hands on a Carbine... i duno abuot anyone else but im really looking forward to the carbine more than any other gun (unless there is a cove sniper [unless its more than a 2 hit kill])

  • 08.13.2004 6:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: MJOLNIRdragoon
yes you are complaining... you complaining about things you assume from watching videos (well number 2 anywho) i never thought tha driving with the flag was fair in the first place... so i like what they are doing.. i like hot you have to have a driver or your walking... driving while holding a 6 foot flag doesnt seem to be the easiest thing to do in the first place...

Again balance if they want you not to be able to drive with the flag then they need to make indestructable vehicles, if you want destructible vehicles you have to drive with the flag, bungie is going for good balance.......... And you have to holster a gun before you take out another holstering dual guns would be the exact same, sinse one handed weapons are smaller you are really holding a rifles in terms of space, so making it that you cant holster two weapons is just unrealistic.

  • 08.13.2004 6:43 PM PDT
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"I pity the fool who hasnt played Halo"... just a side thought...

  • 08.13.2004 6:43 PM PDT
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the whole Halo Universe is unrealistic...

  • 08.13.2004 6:44 PM PDT
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other than balance i think bungie is going for making it more team oriented...

  • 08.13.2004 6:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: MJOLNIRdragoon
the whole Halo Universe is unrealistic...

For a game that is set into the future it is verry realistic, and scientifically accurate in alot of places, there are alot of game that are a thousand times more unrealistic *cough* Half Life *cough* But really some of this stuff i think bungie should consider at least making a compromise.

  • 08.13.2004 6:48 PM PDT
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dude, im praising bungie for making destructable vehicles. in h1, all people would do is just repeatedly run over people when they respawn, and it was very hard to take them out, and for newbies, it was even harder to get used to the game. i think it's an overall great idea.

  • 08.13.2004 6:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: MJOLNIRdragoon
other than balance i think bungie is going for making it more team oriented...

Yes but in the case of vehicles the two interfere because it affects balance and teamplay. Balance should dominate which means since there are two cases, and two chooices inside those cases it would be like drivable/destructable......undriveable/indestructable for the balance between balan :) and teamplay

  • 08.13.2004 6:50 PM PDT
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first of all, in the multiplayer demo he is holding 3 weapons thats a FACT.....

he is holding a needler and an SMG and walks over a battlerifle and picks up ammo for it, which means he is holstering the battlerifle while dual wielding......

so unless it has changed since the Zanzibar presentation you can have a total of three guns, and if you cant i will be very dissapointed, cause it means ur gonna have to drop one of the weapons you are dual wielding when you switch to a battlerifle or something.....

  • 08.13.2004 6:50 PM PDT
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I think its great that you cant drive with the flag in your hand. I also like the way they are doing dual wielding. Being able to press Y and bam, you put away your BR or whatever and pull out 2 smgs wouldnt be all that fun. I would rather have to choose to dual wield or just use one gun. If this was confusing, sorry, i couldnt put it any easyer so if you can write out what i said in an easyer way to read, please do so.

  • 08.13.2004 6:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: aWoZ
dude, im praising bungie for making destructable vehicles. in h1, all people would do is just repeatedly run over people when they respawn, and it was very hard to take them out, and for newbies, it was even harder to get used to the game. i think it's an overall great idea.

Yes but they have to balance it, either they have destructable vehicles and there is somekind of system that you can drive and have the flag in the vehicle, or indestructible and you have to ride shotgun. Plus not being able to drive means that ATV's ghost etc will be renered useless in CTF games except for atack defense.

  • 08.13.2004 6:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nightshade000
first of all, in the multiplayer demo he is holding 3 weapons thats a FACT.....

he is holding a needler and an SMG and walks over a battlerifle and picks up ammo for it, which means he is holstering the battlerifle while dual wielding......

so unless it has changed since the Zanzibar presentation you can have a total of three guns, and if you cant i will be very dissapointed, cause it means ur gonna have to drop one of the weapons you are dual wielding when you switch to a battlerifle or something.....
That appears to be what you do in the current build

  • 08.13.2004 6:53 PM PDT
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cool

  • 08.13.2004 6:55 PM PDT

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