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Subject: The origin of halo squating........
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Stop it! Stop it! Don't you see...

Your tearing everyone apart!

What about us?

  • 08.17.2004 3:36 PM PDT
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What happened to your XBox?

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He's making an excuse about how he doesn't want to get pwned by our skillz.

GO PLAY CHESS, YOU -blam!-.

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One is a bit confused on why you would be so uptight about what goes on in a game. Or why one would try to apply such a human thing as honour to a video game. One might be shattering your disillusions when one says this, but Halo is not real life. Just as one would not kill in real life, one would also not desicrate the bodies of the fallen. But, as one said: Halo is a game. A game in which one kills others. So, one would think that one has the right to do what one wishes in this game...

One would like to ask a few questions, O Honourable One:

1) Do you shoot your enemy in the back?
2) Do you shoot your enemy from a far?
3) Do you throw a grenade before you die?
4) Do you trample an enemy under the tires of your vehicle?
5) Do you strengthen yourself with a shield before you engage?
6) Do you use the stealth item?
7) Do you hit your enemy in his hind side?

All of these are quite dishonorable in real life, you honourless cur.

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Posted by: JohnKerensky
I see, for the sake of good sportsmanship you will drop the subject, but you remain in defense of those you are illsportsmen and 'corpse hump.' That makes you a hypocrite, does it not?
No it doesn't -- taunting is part of sport.

Also, I would like to say, for all your calling me ignroant, for you to assume that, because I live presently in Mississippi, that I am from there, is quite an ignorant assumption. And for you to call me arrogant when your whole tone (at least as I have preceived) in this discussion is rather self-righteous, also verges or crosses hypocrasy. However, I do recognize that much tone is inflected by the reader, but still, your word choice more tahn anything is what leads me to the conclusion I have reached.
My assumption on you origin was ignorant, forgive me.
My personal view on my tone was not arrogant, at least in my own perception, after further arguments though, my tone went to incredulence - which could have been misconstrued.
Either way - I'm done with it.

By the way -- don't respond to people when they flame, it doesn't help your position.

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Posted by: Dragon Hunter
One is a bit confused on why you would be so uptight about what goes on in a game. Or why one would try to apply such a human thing as honour to a video game. One might be shattering your disillusions when one says this, but Halo is not real life. Just as one would not kill in real life, one would also not desicrate the bodies of the fallen. But, as one said: Halo is a game. A game in which one kills others. So, one would think that one has the right to do what one wishes in this game...

One would like to ask a few questions, O Honourable One:

1) Do you shoot your enemy in the back?
2) Do you shoot your enemy from a far?
3) Do you throw a grenade before you die?
4) Do you trample an enemy under the tires of your vehicle?
5) Do you strengthen yourself with a shield before you engage?
6) Do you use the stealth item?
7) Do you hit your enemy in his hind side?

All of these are quite dishonorable in real life, you honourless cur.


I just love this post.

  • 08.17.2004 3:41 PM PDT
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Halo humping is a way of life live with it if you get whacked in the back on halo your gonna get humped one way or another

  • 08.17.2004 3:43 PM PDT
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Wait an f * n second... so youre saying there is no fun in boning someones corpse till they are blue??? apparently youve never played XBL tee-hee-hee You people bother me with your idiocy !!

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Posted by: GameJunkieJim
I just love this post.


One aims to please.

And one must point to the phrase in one's signature: Those that live by the sword get shot by those that don't.

In other words: Those that live by their false pretenses of honour get shot by those that are not hindered by such ideals.

[Edited on 8/17/2004 3:50:55 PM]

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Posted by: jshine77
What happened to your XBox?


It got broke. I think the CD reader was defective, or some such.



As far as the person who listed the things, those are not inherently dishonourable. If the enemy is foolish enough to allow me to meet those conditions, then it is their failing of skill, not my failing of honour, quiaff? I consider it dishonourable, in earnest competition, to do any less than your best against an opponent, and 'doing ones best' means to exploit all one knows or can do inorder to meet the objectives of the competition. The objective of the game is to score kills, it is not to 'corpse hump' dead bodies, or you would be rewarded for such action. You are well-spoken, and I like that. However, I must disagree with you. One should carry oneself with a respect for others at all times (one of my hypocrasies I suppose, I will openly admit I fail in this often enough, I know,) even in a game, and 'corpse humping' is anything but repsectful.



Taunting is part of no professional sport of which I am aware. Infact the very nature of taunting is unprofessional. Even in BOXING where the object it so to physical harm to another taunting is discourage and stigmatized. As I said, tone is mostly inflected by the *reader* not the *writer.* That I precieved your tone to be otehr tahn what it was is mostly, perhaps entirely my fault.



I have no problem at all being beaten. I actually tend to like it to a degree, when I learn from it, and see what it is I am doing wrong. What I do not like is unsporting winners.

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Uhm, what boxing do you watch? Have you ever even seen a press conference??

You ever hear what goes on on a football field? You ever see an endzone dance?

You ever watch a fight break out in a baseball game? Soccer (Football)? Taunting is VERY much a part of sport.

There is nothing unsportsmanlike about the "Humping" of an opponent. Childish? Very, but not unsportsmanlike.

And tell me where your notions of honor say that it's ok to attack an unsuspecting opponent under any circumstance? Please cite an example.

[Edited on 8/17/2004 4:42:41 PM]

  • 08.17.2004 4:31 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

The listing is correct. In a true honorable duel, or fight, you do not do the things listed by Dragon Hunter. You claim in your above post that if your opponents failure in skill allows you to do such things it is ok or 'honorable.' It isn't. If you ever get a chance read the Bushido Warrior Code. That is honorable fighting... all those listed by Dragon Hunter which you claim can be honorable are in fact the opposite.

Besides...

"All's fair in Love and War."

When you try to make things fair... you lose. It's like tying a hand behind your back in a Boxing match. You can still punch but chances are you're going to get your ass beat in.

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Baseball? I have watch some, and I never really saw much for taunting in there. My apologies. I did not think of Soccer or Hockey. My error.

As for pregame 'smack talk' in boxing, I was not thinking about that either, but actual in-ring taunting.

End zone dance. I always figured that was over exuberance about scoring, not particularly taunting to the other team.

It is unsporting! Taunting's very nature is unsporting. Gloating is unsporting. All of these are descriptors of 'corpse humping.' how can you consider it sporting?

Attack an unsuspecting opponent? In combat there should be no one who is unexpecting. You should be alert at all times. I am rarely surprised when I am sniped becasue I generally expect that someone is lining me up for a shot unless I am in an enclosed space. If I am crossing Blood Gulch on foot, or in a vehicle, out in the open, I am generally expecting to get shot. I am aware I am opening msyelf up to being attack and expect it, and also tend to move in an evasive patter to make myself more difficult to hit. Those who do not are unwise.

EDIT: Spelling again, probably missed some.

Achilles. I am having difficulty putting together a riposte to that, but I will try. I would like to point out that I did not claim they were honourable, I jsut said that they are not inherently dishonourable. I suppose I use those tactis because 'everyone else does' and I suppose that is far from justification. However, as cited before, this is just a game, and only 'scrubs' decry tactics that defeat them as dishonourable, or cheap, or what not. I am not discussing anything that has to do with game play anyway, I am condemning the way one person interacts with another out of the contexct of the game. The objective of the game is to win. You win by scoring kills. You do not score kills, win, or accomplish the objective of the game by 'corpse humping' and the very act your are portreying is vile and taboo. I can not conceive of the mind that thinks such a representation is 'ok.'

[Edited on 8/17/2004 5:17:19 PM]

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Posted by: Wra7hofAchilles
..Bushido Warrior Code. That is honorable fighting....


Amen! I'm currently reading Iaido, Art of the Japanese Sword. Do you realize the ammount of training and discipline that oriental swordsmen had? This stuff is frickin' amazing! And their personal honour codes... *shudder*... I couldn't live up to something that stict and... well... honourable.

And one has another question, Most Honourable One:

1) Why is it in the right for one to hit or continue to shoot a foe's corpse, but not 'hump' it?

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Posted by: JohnKerensky
I am condemning the way one person interacts with another out of the context of the game.


Corpse humping is not out of context. It's in the game, isn't it?! The damn designers even started doing it first!

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Posted by: Dragon Hunter

And one has another question, Most Honourable One:

1) Why is it in the right for one to hit or continue to shoot a foe's corpse, but not 'hump' it?


To make certain he is dead, of course. It would not do have him getting back up and surprising you after you thought you had put him down!

Seriously, he suggested that he needed a way to vent frustration or some such, it was merely a suggestion of a less offensive method of venting such frustration. I would actually take it as a compliment, I think, as if someone saying they needed to fire those extra rounds to keep me down. In true warfare I, as I implied before, do not support the mutilation of a fallen foe in any way.

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Posted by: Dragon Hunter
Posted by: JohnKerensky
I am condemning the way one person interacts with another out of the context of the game.


Corpse humping is not out of context. It's in the game, isn't it?! The damn designers even started doing it first!


Just goes to show how -blam!- up the world is, huh? I also have difficulty believing that, but I will not contest it.

It is in the game? that is justification for tactics only, not for being rude and vulgar. By your logic it is accpeptable then to cuss out an eight year old child on XBoX live. I mean, it is in the game...

  • 08.17.2004 5:27 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: JohnKerensky

Posted by: Dragon Hunter

And one has another question, Most Honourable One:

1) Why is it in the right for one to hit or continue to shoot a foe's corpse, but not 'hump' it?


To make certain he is dead, of course. It would not do have him getting back up and surprising you after you thought you had put him down!

Seriously, he suggested that he needed a way to vent frustration or some such, it was merely a suggestion of a less offensive method of venting such frustration. I would actually take it as a compliment, I think, as if someone saying they needed to fire those extra rounds to keep me down. In true warfare I, as I implied before, do not support the mutilation of a fallen foe in any way.


One of the basic forms of combat, "Squad Attack" is once a unit has correctly loved into position, A or B team in a flank position, (either or), assaults through the objective. If there is any enemy on the ground, a soldier assaulting through may double-tap or fire a round into enemy bodies on the ground to make sure they are dead. It is also wise to kick away any weapons near a body. The shooting of corpses, or enemies at this stage is allowed. However, when the second team, (A or B), assaults through from another direction, any soldier assaulting through the objective at this stage who shoots at an enemy is a considered a war criminal. It is against the Geneva Convention, Rules of Warfare to shoot enemy soldiers on the ground, or dead bodies, if you are that second unit moving through. Likewise, one must then check each body to make sure they are dead, and even if they are all precaution must be taken because one of those bastards might have pulled a grenade and is hiding it under his body. Shooting them is a war crime, you must physically check them, even if you know them to be hiding something. Just a little something to chew on.

Achilles

  • 08.17.2004 5:48 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: JohnKerensky
By your logic it is accpeptable then to cuss out an eight year old child on XBoX live. I mean, it is in the game...


Things like this happen, and in some cases it is the 8yr old cursing out an adult.

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Posted by: JohnKerensky
I am condemning the way one person interacts with another out of the context of the game.


Corpse humping is not out of context. It's in the game, isn't it?! The damn designers even started doing it first!


Just goes to show how -blam!- up the world is, huh? I also have difficulty believing that, but I will not contest it.

It is in the game? that is justification for tactics only, not for being rude and vulgar. By your logic it is accpeptable then to cuss out an eight year old child on XBoX live. I mean, it is in the game...


Generally the 8 year olds are the only ones doing the cussing on XBL -- most of the adults simply boot them. And it's perfectly acceptable to reply in kind -- Children shouldn't be on XBL without supervision in the first place -- but that's bad parenting -- an entirely different topic... The ESRB notice is clear on that...

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Posted by: JohnKerensky
...By your logic it is accpeptable then to cuss out an eight year old child on XBoX live. I mean, it is in the game...


Yes. I admit that. I am perfectly fine with an adult cussing out an eight year old, or the opposite. But I'm one of the few people that take words at face value. -blam!-, -blam!-, ass, damn, bastard, -blam!-, and several other taboo words are just that, words.

But, that's not the point at hand. You are changing the subject, sir!

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I have to disagree, GJJ. A good parent wouldn't watch their kid like a hawk. They would make sure their kid knew that what is portrayed in the game is entirely fictional and in no way a representation of real life...

Just so you know, I'm against ESRB ratings too. I don't think there is a 'magic age at' which certain games become appropriate for someone.

...But this is off-topic... Ignore me please.

[Edited on 8/17/2004 6:11:33 PM]

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gamejunkieJim,

Generally the 8 year olds are the only ones doing the cussing on XBL -- most of the adults simply boot them. And it's perfectly acceptable to reply in kind -- Children shouldn't be on XBL without supervision in the first place -- but that's bad parenting -- an entirely different topic... The ESRB notice is clear on that


Its on XBC not live but the humping shall begin on XBL when halo 2 comes to live and the necrophillia shall rein king lol

[Edited on 8/17/2004 6:17:57 PM]

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I hope you all know there is no point in making such a big deal about such a topic, how can any of you take it so seriously? Also, to clarify, the Body Humping, in Halo, (and as far as I know), is unofficially called "Riding the Pickle" and it is meant to embarrass he who is receiving, and embarrassment is entirely a one-sided feeling. One can only embarrass you, if you are embarrassed.

  • 08.17.2004 6:26 PM PDT

GameJunkieJim, you remind me of someone I knew on these forums long, long ago.

Anyhow, I can do nothing but reiterate what others have said on the subject of honor and dishonor- other than state the fact that Halo is in fact a game, and games do not have the same rules as reality. In a fake reality, you can do anything without conciquences- and in a entirely different world, the same rules do not apply as in the one we now live in.

You can argue whether or not Halo can be cincidered to have "the same rules as this world" all day, but in the end, it's all a matter of personal choice and opionion. There is no definate truth or answer.




[Edited on 8/17/2004 7:05:41 PM]

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