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Subject: Did anyone notice the Frigates in the Azod breaking yards?

I know this isn't too important, but I noticed the Frigates in the Azod Breaking yards on Reach are all the Halo 3 era models. (Except the UNSC Commonwealth.) Could this mean that the Frigates between Halo 3 & ODST and Reach are different variants?

For those of you who can't tell the difference, look at the aft section of the Frigates. Their flat, and have no space in between them and the engines, unlike the Reach Frigates. The Armor on the engines also looks more like their Halo 3 counterpart.

  • 10.27.2010 6:55 PM PDT
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yes different but them frigares are very old befor the war started!

  • 10.27.2010 7:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Seraphim
I know this isn't too important, but I noticed the Frigates in the Azod Breaking yards on Reach are all the Halo 3 era models. (Except the UNSC Commonwealth.) Could this mean that the Frigates between Halo 3 & ODST and Reach are different variants?

For those of you who can't tell the difference, look at the aft section of the Frigates. Their flat, and have no space in between them and the engines, unlike the Reach Frigates. The Armor on the engines also looks more like their Halo 3 counterpart.



Well they did specify that the Frigates (well at least the Grafton) were heavy variants. Just going off the way the holding bay looks so thin, it makes me think the In Amber Clad was the same type of Frigate as the Grafton and Savannah whereas the Dawn and Aegis Fate were another class of Frigate.

  • 10.27.2010 10:49 PM PDT

I remember in one of the books it mentions a light frigate. What I think is that Savannah and In Amber Clad are Light Frigates while Aegis Fate and Forward unto Dawn are Frigates.

  • 10.27.2010 11:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Seraphim
I know this isn't too important, but I noticed the Frigates in the Azod Breaking yards on Reach are all the Halo 3 era models. (Except the UNSC Commonwealth.) Could this mean that the Frigates between Halo 3 & ODST and Reach are different variants?

For those of you who can't tell the difference, look at the aft section of the Frigates. Their flat, and have no space in between them and the engines, unlike the Reach Frigates. The Armor on the engines also looks more like their Halo 3 counterpart.



Well they did specify that the Frigates (well at least the Grafton) were heavy variants. Just going off the way the holding bay looks so thin, it makes me think the In Amber Clad was the same type of Frigate as the Grafton and Savannah whereas the Dawn and Aegis Fate were another class of Frigate.


I would lean towards The Grafton and Savannah not having holding bays at all.
these seem to be just dedicated attack frigates instead of carrier frigates.

Yep, I think so too. There isn't any place you can put a pelican.

  • 10.28.2010 2:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sigma617
Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: The Seraphim
I know this isn't too important, but I noticed the Frigates in the Azod Breaking yards on Reach are all the Halo 3 era models. (Except the UNSC Commonwealth.) Could this mean that the Frigates between Halo 3 & ODST and Reach are different variants?

For those of you who can't tell the difference, look at the aft section of the Frigates. Their flat, and have no space in between them and the engines, unlike the Reach Frigates. The Armor on the engines also looks more like their Halo 3 counterpart.



Well they did specify that the Frigates (well at least the Grafton) were heavy variants. Just going off the way the holding bay looks so thin, it makes me think the In Amber Clad was the same type of Frigate as the Grafton and Savannah whereas the Dawn and Aegis Fate were another class of Frigate.


I would lean towards The Grafton and Savannah not having holding bays at all.
these seem to be just dedicated attack frigates instead of carrier frigates.

Yep, I think so too. There isn't any place you can put a pelican.
What about those pods along port and starboard fore? They look like they could hold Pelicans, and also look similar placement to where Forward Unto Dawn deployed her Pelicans over the Ark, as well.

Then again, I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.

  • 10.28.2010 2:28 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?


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Posted by: Sigma617
Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: The Seraphim
I know this isn't too important, but I noticed the Frigates in the Azod Breaking yards on Reach are all the Halo 3 era models. (Except the UNSC Commonwealth.) Could this mean that the Frigates between Halo 3 & ODST and Reach are different variants?

For those of you who can't tell the difference, look at the aft section of the Frigates. Their flat, and have no space in between them and the engines, unlike the Reach Frigates. The Armor on the engines also looks more like their Halo 3 counterpart.



Well they did specify that the Frigates (well at least the Grafton) were heavy variants. Just going off the way the holding bay looks so thin, it makes me think the In Amber Clad was the same type of Frigate as the Grafton and Savannah whereas the Dawn and Aegis Fate were another class of Frigate.


I would lean towards The Grafton and Savannah not having holding bays at all.
these seem to be just dedicated attack frigates instead of carrier frigates.

Yep, I think so too. There isn't any place you can put a pelican.
What about those pods along port and starboard fore? They look like they could hold Pelicans, and also look similar placement to where Forward Unto Dawn deployed her Pelicans over the Ark, as well.

Then again, I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.

You mean where the generators are? Yeah, there might be room for pelican, but I think they're mostly for falcons, hornets and ground vehicles.

  • 10.28.2010 2:42 AM PDT

Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.
The generators are located in the pelican pod area of the ship. The back part where Longswords would fit is outside the level.

  • 10.28.2010 3:38 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?


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Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.
The generators are located in the pelican pod area of the ship. The back part where Longswords would fit is outside the level.

Do you know how big longswords are? They can't even fit on the back of Dawn.

  • 10.28.2010 3:55 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
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Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.


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Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.
The generators are located in the pelican pod area of the ship. The back part where Longswords would fit is outside the level.

Do you know how big longswords are? They can't even fit on the back of Dawn.
One Longsword is usually stowed on each frigate.
Only the Commonwealth had a squadron of them.

  • 10.28.2010 4:32 AM PDT

Am I supposed to write something funny here?


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Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.
The generators are located in the pelican pod area of the ship. The back part where Longswords would fit is outside the level.

Do you know how big longswords are? They can't even fit on the back of Dawn.
One Longsword is usually stowed on each frigate.

where?

  • 10.28.2010 4:33 AM PDT
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What about those pods along port and starboard fore?

I think they may be slightly too small to fit a Pelican, but I'd have to measure to be sure.

Then again, I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.

There's no way it could hold a single longsword.

  • 10.28.2010 7:35 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.


Posted by: opogjijijp
What about those pods along port and starboard fore?

I think they may be slightly too small to fit a Pelican, but I'd have to measure to be sure.

Then again, I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.

There's no way it could hold a single longsword.
So Bungie messed up again with throwbacks to the novel? The Frigate Commonwealth in TFOR held at least one Pelican and a 'squadron' of Longsword interceptors.

  • 10.28.2010 7:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.
The generators are located in the pelican pod area of the ship. The back part where Longswords would fit is outside the level.

Do you know how big longswords are? They can't even fit on the back of Dawn.
Of course I do. Do you know how big UNSC Frigates are? Answer: this big. Fits fine if you ask me.

  • 10.28.2010 8:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mutoid Log
Of course I do. Do you know how big UNSC Frigates are? Answer: this big. Fits fine if you ask me.

Doesn't look like a fit to me. That space you placed the longsword in is not the cargo hold. Even using the Halo 3 era frigates (which have a vastly expanded cargo bay) the longsword's wingspan still looks a few feet too wide.

  • 10.28.2010 8:28 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.


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Posted by: Mutoid Log
Of course I do. Do you know how big UNSC Frigates are? Answer: this big. Fits fine if you ask me.

Doesn't look like a fit to me. That space you placed the longsword in is not the cargo hold. Even using the Halo 3 era frigates (which have a vastly expanded cargo bay) the longsword's wingspan still looks a few feet too wide.
Not to mention that the Longsword's wingtips actually intersect into a pair of the Frigate's light thrusters.

  • 10.28.2010 10:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Seraphim
I know this isn't too important, but I noticed the Frigates in the Azod Breaking yards on Reach are all the Halo 3 era models. (Except the UNSC Commonwealth.) Could this mean that the Frigates between Halo 3 & ODST and Reach are different variants?

For those of you who can't tell the difference, look at the aft section of the Frigates. Their flat, and have no space in between them and the engines, unlike the Reach Frigates. The Armor on the engines also looks more like their Halo 3 counterpart.



Well they did specify that the Frigates (well at least the Grafton) were heavy variants. Just going off the way the holding bay looks so thin, it makes me think the In Amber Clad was the same type of Frigate as the Grafton and Savannah whereas the Dawn and Aegis Fate were another class of Frigate.


In Halo 2 the In Amber Clad wasent the same model as the Grafton and Savannah.

  • 10.28.2010 10:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: opogjijijp
What about those pods along port and starboard fore?

I think they may be slightly too small to fit a Pelican, but I'd have to measure to be sure.


Ok, just did some measuring on Boneyard. The doors along either side of the frigate appear to be about 18 meters wide, which is too small for the 23+ meter wingspan of the Pelican. I don't think they're significantly bigger on the Halo 3 frigate either.

Flying around the Halo Reach frigates in pan cam shows no ganger large enough to hold a longsword.

  • 10.28.2010 1:11 PM PDT

I don't care. I really don't.

The Longswords could've been attached to the outside of the Frigate and accesed via some sort of porta, which might not be visible in Boneyeard because the Commonwealth had multiple refits over the years due to damage.
Pelican would've been inside the cargo bay alone.

  • 10.28.2010 2:03 PM PDT
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Pelican would've been inside the cargo bay alone.

The Commonwealth doesn't appear to have a place that could fit a pelican.

  • 10.28.2010 3:32 PM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.


Posted by: opogjijijp
Pelican would've been inside the cargo bay alone.

The Commonwealth doesn't appear to have a place that could fit a pelican.
The ONLY solution that can be drawn from this is that there were two ships named the Commonwealth - in which case, why not give the ship on Boneyard another name? Since obviously, they would have to be different designs as the Boneyard ship has, as opog has established, no room for either Pelicans or Longswords, which the TFOR Commonwealth has.

A pointless throwback that has, like the PoA, backfired on canon.

  • 10.28.2010 3:38 PM PDT


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Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
I have no idea how the Commonwealth was able to hold multiple Longsword fighters, given its size on Boneyard.
The generators are located in the pelican pod area of the ship. The back part where Longswords would fit is outside the level.

Do you know how big longswords are? They can't even fit on the back of Dawn.
One Longsword is usually stowed on each frigate.
Only the Commonwealth had a squadron of them.
To be technical, this should have been an issue back when Halo 2 and the book came out. In-game, you could tell that the Frigate would not have been capable of carrying a squadron.

  • 10.28.2010 4:50 PM PDT

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