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Posted by: Tazmaniandude
Posted by: Captain K Mart
Posted by: Mtrip
They're making Pimps at Sea.

Or not.

But Probably.

Or not.

Not sure really.

I'm disappointed that it took 32 posts for someone to mention this. The hints about Pimps at Sea were the only thing I gleamed from the Update.

I'd say the same, myself.


Yeah, from the sounds of that update, things are getting a pit to piratey for my likeing. Either way, i think there next project will whip some ps ass.

[Edited on 10/28/2005]

  • 10.28.2005 7:26 PM PDT
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Is Marty still enjoying his genelecs? I was disappointed not to see the taiko drums in the Channel9 video.

By the way, I can't wait for that Vol 2 soundtrack. I was playing Halo 2 the other day (no really) and hearing some really nice cues that I hadn't noticed before.

I've been playing with headphones lately, and it's really nice to hear all the ambiences that were layered in.

I'd like to encourage Marty and his audio team to push the envelope on this next one. Think in terms of bringing more discrete effects into the mix - you guys will have more voices to work with in the 360, no? One of the things I hate about FX librarys (i.e. Sound Ideas 6000 series, etc.) is that discrete sounds get smothered onto one stereo pair, so in addition to the car or cricket that you do like, you've got half a dozen sounds that you hate (like freakin' wind chimes during a thunder effect). I know that you guys create a lot of your own stuff, but I'd just suggest that instead of layering sounds to create a stereo pair or a spacialized mono-source - try keeping the discrete effects unlayered as much as possible. So that the fly whizzing around my head really does give me the creeps.

Also- you may try playing with sound-masking algorithms. Sound masking, for those who don't know, is where you have a sound which is masked (and muddied) by a more dominant sound - usually in the same frequency range. A sound-masking algorithm would detect when ambiences get "smothered" by louder, frequency-similar sounds - and automatically drop the BG sound to make room for the other. It's what usually happens at a mix - when you've got 10 different things going on at once, and it sounds like crap, so you start dropping out the unimportant stuff that's being masked by the more dominant sounds. Maybe it's similar but slightly different to the sonic priority system that you guys currently use.

I know you've got code that preserves voices for sounds originating in proximity or "on picture" - but I'd also recommend employing some techniques from feature mixing, where essentially silent scenes aren't all that silent, due to the fact that ambiences and incidental noises (and distant sounds) are boosted slightly. It's like compression, except it's more expressive. I know a lot of sound fx editors (one who worked on LOTR) who just love to cut ambiences to create mood and atmosphere. The LOTR guy would take some bassy rumbles and insert them into the scene to heighten the tension - it's also a great way to give a very distant effect some presence without overpowering the FG. Some of this involves (as you guys did on H2) EQ and adding reverb - but hey, it might be interesting to tweak that even further, and create a different explosion or rumble which represents the very "distant incarnation" of that effect.

Of course, you guys might do all of the above or none of the above, and the game will still kick ass and sound great. Best of luck.

  • 10.28.2005 7:27 PM PDT
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Are you guys at Bungie hinting at Pimps at Sea again?

  • 10.28.2005 7:40 PM PDT
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I can tell that Frankie was talking about Halo because..
Pimps at Sea = Project name for Halo 3.
It all matches up (and the tools for artists and engineers= Map Editor)

This is what I think it means, go ahead and disagree...

  • 10.28.2005 7:42 PM PDT
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Halo 3 better come or 360 won't do good as good as it would if it was made.

  • 10.28.2005 8:13 PM PDT
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seriously surprised more people didin't notice the blatant Pimps at Sea reference...
Frankie: Oh, if I only had a shiny doubloon and a fur coat for every time someone asked me that, I’d be able to buy myself a new jewel-handled walking cane and a platinum eyepatch.

awesome...just awesome. My life will not be complete until I play a gold-ring wearin', mack-daddy pirate, roamin the high seas on his pimp-ship... Though I guess it was the same thing for Halo; wasen't BLAM! Halo's secret name while working on it?

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  • 10.28.2005 8:39 PM PDT
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And if you guy's don't? The "Mohawk's" gonna activate this RING.

WE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RUN MOTHA F***A!!!!!!!!!!!!! RUN!!!!!!

  • 10.28.2005 9:03 PM PDT
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What do ya know. I for one, pray that all the blatant refrences to "Pimps at Sea' is merely a distraction to keep us off of Halo 3. If it does turn out to be true that Bungie isn't using the new advantages of the 360 to make Halo 3, then...well...that would suck. WHO FREAKIN CARES IF YOU CAN BE A PIRATE/PIMP! WHAT A DUMB IDEA. I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT BUNGIE WAS INTELLEGENT AFTER MAKING THE MAMOTHS THAT HALO AND HALO 2 WERE, BUT IF THEY DO MAKE THIS GAME, I AM OBVIOUSLY WRONG!

  • 10.28.2005 9:20 PM PDT
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Dont throw rocks at me but what if we all bought the 360 and then like a week later bungie said halo 3 would be for PS3! That would suck so hard. Crazy -blam!- does happen some times. Im buying the 360 for two reason's xbox live and halo 3 .....our any other halo game that comes out on the 360.

  • 10.28.2005 9:24 PM PDT
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I want the 360!

  • 10.28.2005 9:38 PM PDT
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Hahah!
Single weapons on map could be interesting.
Team insane definitely sounds like a good time, too.

  • 10.28.2005 10:05 PM PDT
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Geat Update. :)

  • 10.28.2005 10:52 PM PDT
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I wounder if this all even true, maybe there making halo 3, or maybe a side project get your attiontion on that and on later years realease halo 3, but I dont mind the wait, i have done that with HALO 2 how many delays bungie, so even if they said halo 3/ new bungie game, 2006 it would be soo delayed again and agian, everyone sets up a riot outside bungie, rocks come through so one will steal the source code release it on the net bungie gets mad kills them, and so on its happerend before. The Wait will end E3 next year, I bet ya

  • 10.29.2005 12:34 AM PDT
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Frankie: They got host

So there is a host advantage? thankyou for finally telling me the truth :)

luved the update

[Edited on 10/29/2005]

  • 10.29.2005 1:34 AM PDT

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OH! that was SUCH and obvious tease about Pimps at Sea. OH c'mon. Platinum eye patch! Frankie you can do better than that. Man, give it up.

  • 10.29.2005 3:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: natman2939
I really don't get the secrecy with Bungie. What's the point!? Do they think we'll want to buy it more if they announce it later? Seriously, what is the point.


If it really is Halo 3 they are making, the reason they arn't announcing it is all about marketing me thinks. If everyone knows Halo 3 is coming out and they know its a SURE-FIRE-THING, then many Halo fans will probably wait until Halo 3's realease to buy the Xbox 360. That would lessen overall launch sales -giving Microsoft a loss in money- and distract people from the many other brillinat launch titles in Nov or Dec respectively. Well, thats my theory, don't flame me, im only 16 ;)

  • 10.29.2005 5:50 AM PDT
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hey thnx bungie for no more leaderboards now i can actually play clan matches with a 25 clan and not get modded.

  • 10.29.2005 6:55 AM PDT
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either that or they don't want people mass spam mailing them whining about why it was pushed back and pushed back like the last one. It just makes sense to wait and announce it when it's near completion. marketing common sense says announce it early and get people ready. Halo 3 is a no brainer big hit. They don't have to announce it early to get people stoked for it. I mean just read the forum. It's on EVERYONE's mind.

Anyway, I'm really stoked about the new play lists. Might give some of us a more light spirited play list to hit that won't have tons of smack talkers and rank whoring retards. Just ONCE i would like to run a full night and not get called every racial slur and four letter word in the dictionary along with a few that arent.

  • 10.29.2005 6:56 AM PDT
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I wish there were more details!!! All well it's much better than nothing. Cool update.

  • 10.29.2005 7:27 AM PDT
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"EVENT HORIZON" Hah! that was funny!

  • 10.29.2005 7:37 AM PDT
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Maybe we have all been bamboozeled. Maybe it is:

Halo 3:
Pimps at sea

The story skips the next battle and destruction of the last Halos (because come on, who really wants to race to another index in another library?) and starts up with the Master Chief retiring to the seas with his fine ship "The Whim-sicle" and he begins collecting wenches to pimp out. Of course he has to get a platinum eye patch because some disgusting Flood creature sucked his eye out of his head.

And the shiny doubloon and fur coat has to fit over his armor, because he has long since lost the special wrench that was issued with his suit, which allowed him to take that frieking thing off. And we all know that the cane is really just a cleverly disguised Rocket Launcher in case one of those "Johns at sea" get out of place.

But what I am so excited about, is the endless possibilities of this game for LIVE play! imagine pullin up next to your friends ship, trading a couple of wenches, and then as you pull away - whip out your cane/RL and turn his entire crew into a fine red mist.

And, just as a smile comes across your helmet covered face, the sun twinkles off that shiny eye patch just to show you enjoyed it.

NOW THAT IS A GAME!

  • 10.29.2005 8:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Tazmaniandude
Posted by: Captain K Mart
Posted by: Mtrip
They're making Pimps at Sea.

Or not.

But Probably.

Or not.

Not sure really.

I'm disappointed that it took 32 posts for someone to mention this. The hints about Pimps at Sea were the only thing I gleamed from the Update.

I'd say the same, myself.



how can you guys actiually believe bungie would make a game called Pimps-At-Sea? there just giving all you gullable ppl something to trick u, and if they are making pimps at sea...Im deff. gonna buy it lol

  • 10.29.2005 8:54 AM PDT
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Your Kung Fu is not strong.

Posted by: X_EcUtiONeR
Posted by: natman2939
I really don't get the secrecy with Bungie. What's the point!? Do they think we'll want to buy it more if they announce it later? Seriously, what is the point.


If it really is Halo 3 they are making, the reason they arn't announcing it is all about marketing me thinks. If everyone knows Halo 3 is coming out and they know its a SURE-FIRE-THING, then many Halo fans will probably wait until Halo 3's realease to buy the Xbox 360. That would lessen overall launch sales -giving Microsoft a loss in money- and distract people from the many other brillinat launch titles in Nov or Dec respectively. Well, thats my theory, don't flame me, im only 16 ;)



I disagree. I think the 360 would be better marketed with the release of Halo 3. I only have like a dozen or so games for xbox but I haven't taken Halo 2 out since I got it. The same will be true for Halo 3, i'm sure. I simply will not buy the 360 until theres a Halo 3.

  • 10.29.2005 8:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: HAT3D MUSE
What do ya know. I for one, pray that all the blatant refrences to "Pimps at Sea' is merely a distraction to keep us off of Halo 3. If it does turn out to be true that Bungie isn't using the new advantages of the 360 to make Halo 3, then...well...that would suck. WHO FREAKIN CARES IF YOU CAN BE A PIRATE/PIMP! WHAT A DUMB IDEA. I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT BUNGIE WAS INTELLEGENT AFTER MAKING THE MAMOTHS THAT HALO AND HALO 2 WERE, BUT IF THEY DO MAKE THIS GAME, I AM OBVIOUSLY WRONG!



I would love to be a Pimp/Pirate =)

  • 10.29.2005 8:59 AM PDT
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About that Dutch Hunpday Challenge thing, who was the other Bungie guy? and however u guys ended up last every game, ive seen it on TV.

  • 10.29.2005 9:08 AM PDT