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Subject: if mc blew up halo why is there going to be a halo 2?
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i think there is another halo somewhere in outer space what do you think? THINK HARD?

  • 08.15.2004 6:48 PM PDT
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There is more than one Halo.

  • 08.15.2004 6:54 PM PDT
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dude, halo 2 takes place mostly on earth...

  • 08.15.2004 6:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: noob 001
dude, halo 2 takes place mostly on earth...


Not neccessarily. Bungie has confirmed the Master Chief will take the fight to the Covenant after saving Earth, plus more than one Halo has been confirmed by Bungie. Saving Earth might be a fourth of the campaign, maybe a third but not more than half.

  • 08.15.2004 7:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: noob 001
dude, halo 2 takes place mostly on earth...


Not neccessarily. Bungie has confirmed the Master Chief will take the fight to the Covenant after saving Earth, plus more than one Halo has been confirmed by Bungie. Saving Earth might be a fourth of the campaign, maybe a third but not more than half.

I would say it will be more than just a third or fourth, its gonna be quite a bit of the campaing, you shouldn't say things that you don't know to be true.

  • 08.15.2004 9:36 PM PDT
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Because Halo is the game's name, not just its setting.

  • 08.15.2004 10:52 PM PDT

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Look, does it really matter if there won't be another Halo in Halo 2? Now, I'm not saying there won't, because I know there will. But, at least there will be a Halo 2.

  • 08.15.2004 11:02 PM PDT
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apparently the halo the chief went on was sorta like an alpha halo and many more exist

  • 08.15.2004 11:18 PM PDT
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Yeah, the whole "How many Halo's are there" issue is a controversy. It's said to be 4 Halos total (because that's the required amount to blow up Earth). However, some say it's more than that. Frankly, I could care less about how many Halos there are as in ring-planets. I just care about the amount of Halos in videogames. That's what I wanna see.

  • 08.16.2004 12:30 AM PDT
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Said by Guilty Spark 343 in Halo
"I am Guilty Spark 343, the monitor of installation 04....."

If that doesn't say there's more Halo installations then I don't know what does. For the slower people out there here's an explanation. "Installation 04 ", so there's at least 3 other Halo's (or predecessor versions of Halo).

There could be more than 4, but even if my theory is wrong (which I highly doubt) there's definitely 2 installations because Halo:CE (Combat Evolved for the n00bs) took place on one and parts of Halo 2 take place on another (both confirmed).

My guess is that there is more than 4 Halos; floating around the universe. I couldn't guess if all installations actually hold the Flood (built and awaiting specimins)

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  • 08.16.2004 3:56 AM PDT
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Cortana: You have no idea how this ring works, do you? Why the Forerunners built it? Halo doesn't kill Flood - it kills their food. Humans, Covenant, whatever; we're all equally edible. The only way to stop the Flood is to starve them to death and that's exactly what Halo is designed to do - wipe the galaxy clean of all sentient life. You don't believe me? Ask him!

Master Chief: Is it true?

343 Guilty Spark: More or less. Technically this installation's pulse has a maximum effective radius of twenty five thousand light years, but once the others follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood...But you already knew that, I mean, how couldn't you?


So, we know that there are other Halo-like installations. The fact that 343 Guilty Spark introduces himself to MC as the caretaker of "Installation 04" is highly suggestive that there are at least 3 other installations.

Another set of facts that is highly suggestive that there are at least 4 Halo-like installations: The Milky Way Galaxy forms a thin disk: roughly 100,000 Light Years = "100K" in diameter (50K radius). (The galaxy is only 3K thick at its thickess point; which is so relatively thin that this problem can be treated as a 2-dimensional geometry problem.) The Halo installations (assuming they are all built the same) each have 25K blast radius; which is 50K diameter = 1/2 the diameter of the Milky Way. If one uses the inverse square law for the dissipating energy in a spherical wavefront, and takes credit for the additive effects from neighboring Halo stations; then neigboring installations could be placed as far apart as (25K x 2 x (square root of 2)) = 70K and still wipe out everything in a direct line between the two stations. Under these assumptions, 4 properly placed installations of 25K radius (50K diameter) would be just enough to cover the galaxy.

If, however, one does not take credit for additive effects, then it is easy to find that it takes a minimum of 7 installations to cover the galaxy. (Use a graphics program; or just cut out a circle of paper and a bunch of other circles of exactly half the first circle's diameter, then see how many of the smaller circles it takes to completely cover the larger circle. Hint: the pattern using the smallest number has one of the small circles centered exactly in the center of the large circle.)

So, the number of Halo installations is at least 4, under one contrived set of circumstances; is at least 7, under a more likely set of circumstances; and is not required by the story (as we know it, so far) to be more than 7. Knowing the efficiency of the Forerunners --and the penchant for Bungie to hang significance on the number 7-- my bet is that the Forerunners built exactly 7 Halo-like installations.



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  • 08.16.2004 7:45 AM PDT
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i was wanting to know has anyone else seen guilty spark at the end of the game i finally beat halo on legendary a while ago an i decided to let everything run cause i just wanted to soak up everything then i noticed that guilty sparkshows up after halo is destroyed so he must show up in halo 2 will somone plz respond an tell me if they to have seen this? i bet somone has since it coulnt be just me

  • 08.16.2004 3:46 PM PDT
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A fine analysis, NobleNick! Whoever started this thread had better read it...

And anyone with enough patience to sit through the credits has indeed noticed that 343 Guilty Spark did not perish with installation 4, though its anyone's guess if he shows up in the sequel.

[Edited on 8/16/2004 4:03:24 PM]

  • 08.16.2004 4:01 PM PDT
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It was said in Halo there are more, as the monitor put it, instulations. At the cut scene in the beginning of Two Betrayals when Cortana tells the Chief that Halo will kill all life in the galaxy in order to kill the flood the monitor says "Actually, this instalation only has a range of 100,000,000 miles, but when the otheres follow suit, this region will be quite deviod of life."
Meaning that there are more rings out there where the flood exist or did exist. This of course will be a big part of Halo 2, to find or stumble across another ring, and destroy it as you did the last one.

  • 08.16.2004 4:23 PM PDT
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it wasn't 100 million miles. that's not that much in space. it was 25000 light years, right? correct me if i'm wrong.

i'd just like to point a few things out.
1. Bungie has confirmed that another Halo(s?) will be in Halo 2, but has not confirmed their role
2. Bungie has confirmed the return of the Flood, but not their role
3. Bungie has confirmed the MC will take the fight to the Covenant, but not that he will save Earth (yeah, that one was stupid, we all know he'll save earth, but there's always a possiblity)
4. The whole galaxy was to be covered by the halo's blast's, and as someone pointed out earlier, the range of the Halo Installation 04 is not big enough to cover the galaxy.

Hopin this will clear a few things up.

  • 08.16.2004 4:34 PM PDT
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personaly i think there are at least 343 of them.why u ask because of 343 gulty spark.i know 343 i apart of his name but what if its also his cereal# like hes the 343 moniter 1 moniter to evrey instalation kinda like(i know this will sound crude but here it goes) they made each instalation and then the moniters, since each moniter,and im assuming this, each moniter has A.I.and each one just chose an instalation to look after. well anyway thats my theory on this topic.
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  • 08.16.2004 5:38 PM PDT
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No its because the covenant are smarter in halo 2 and you know they new spectators (covenant in floating chairs) they probly had something to do with the building of the new halo in halo 2 either that or the covenant expanded and have more than 1 halo and they just call for backup

  • 08.16.2004 5:47 PM PDT
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what? the covenant didn't build the halos.....the forerunner did. you don't know much about the story, do you...

  • 08.16.2004 6:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: big guns
i think there is another halo somewhere in outer space what do you think? THINK HARD?


I didn't read all of the posts... but... did you even pay attention to the Halo story the slightest bit? Each Halo as an effective range of about 25,000 light years, and the monitor clearly mentions other rings.

  • 08.16.2004 6:34 PM PDT
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yeah, if ur gonna post in threads about the story, at least know the story first. that usually includes reading the books, as well.

  • 08.16.2004 6:37 PM PDT
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I don't know if youv'e noticed this but 343 in 343 Guilty Spark adds up to seven. I don't know if that is significant, but I thought it was pretty interesting.

  • 08.16.2004 6:41 PM PDT
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ok first off. there are only 200 spartans not 3920. 2nd If any of you read the books, Halo2's plot is partly on earth and partly master chief attempting to Capture a covenant flagship and sneak into the covenant owned space and capture one of their coveted leaders, a PROPHET, return him to earth and attempt to negotiate a truce between man and alien.

  • 08.16.2004 6:48 PM PDT
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Yea i seen it. 343 guilty spark let the covenant know about the humans home world. Thats why they are battiling it out non earth. We havent seen tha last of 343 guilty spark

  • 08.17.2004 12:10 AM PDT
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[color=teal]Like it said, Halo was activated before would explain the deaths of the dinosauors if you think about it. But you can't totally destroy life itself, you can merely supress it, that's how humans and other creatures developed over time on earth. If you look over a few things in your mind, you'll find that everything will make sense in more ways then one. Like Mars being just a giant desert, if we were going by Halo's storyline and stuff it would make sense, since there was life on that planet, until the activation of Halo[s] which whipped out its civilzation.


But I just wanted to point that out to you all. And that would make sense about the moniter, since he did access all the files on the Pillar of Autumm, before it was destroyed. And the flood on halo didn't really die, they are still on the pieces of the ring world. Which might turn out bad for later references. And you might not know, one of the little flood like things could of took a ride with Master chief to earth in his longsword fighter. We all are just going on ideas, to better the story for ourselfs. But the story doesn't need to get better in my opinion its rather sweet and doesn't have a equal. Never will.[/color]

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  • 08.17.2004 1:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: mindofarock
it wasn't 100 million miles. that's not that much in space. it was 25000 light years, right? correct me if i'm wrong.

You are correct. The Earth orbits the Sun at a mean distance of 1 Astronomical Unit = 1AU, which is approximately 93,000,000 miles. This is, astronomically speaking, about 100,000,000 miles. Mars is out around 140,000,000 (I think). So, a Halo installation with a 100 million mile range might not even wipe out life in the host solar system! For the engineering-minded out there: light, traveling at 186,000 miles/sec. (300,000 kilometers/sec.) can do 100,000,000 miles in 537 seconds, which is almost exactly 9 minutes. So, 100,000,000 miles (sounds big, doesn't it) is almost exactly 9 light-minutes, which is about 0.000017 light-years (doesn't sound so big, does it?) There is a BIG difference between 0.000017 light years and 25,000 light years. Guilty Spark said 25,000 light years.

Posted by: Spartan_28
ok first off. there are only 200 spartans not 3920. 2nd If any of you read the books, Halo2's plot is partly on earth and partly master chief attempting to Capture a covenant flagship and sneak into the covenant owned space and capture one of their coveted leaders, a PROPHET, return him to earth and attempt to negotiate a truce between man and alien.

Do you have access to the Halo2 storyline? If so, I'd like to get a link from you. Is the 200 you are talking about from the original Halo story? I read how many children entered the SPARTAN program, and how many graduated, unhurt from the surgeries and drug therapy; but have forgotten. Thought it was like 100 or 200, with maybe 30 graduating. And, by the time we get to the battle for Reach, there are like 10 SPARTANs, total, left in the galaxy. MC loses his team, so now we're down to around 6 (including the MC). Does the Human defense force whip out another 200 SPARTANs, from some super secret program, for Halo2?

  • 08.18.2004 12:19 PM PDT

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