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In the book Halo: The Fall of Reach Dr. Halsey says, "Assembled here tonight are all the surviving Spartans save three, who are otherwise engaged on fields of combat too distant to be easily recalled." This means that there are three more Spartans. So maybe Master Chief is not the only one left.

in the E3 Realtime Demo, Sergeant Banks said, "When I asked for reinforcements, I didn't think they'd send a SPARTAN." I am going to take this as a clear statement that either the SPARTANS weren't all killed off on the ground assault at Reach, or that the second set of SPARTANS trained by Senior Chief Petty Officer Mendez (was he a CPO or SCPO?) made it!

In addition to the others in the "Fall of Reach", the Spartan James floated off into space with still about 80 minutes of air left... this may give way to him being able to come back.

After reading the Halo:First Strike, I found the file "S-III" that Dr. Halsey accessed in Colonel Ackerson's file quite interesting. I think it obviously stands for "Spartan-III" project, but more interesting is "CPOMZ." The "CPO" is an abbreviation used in the Navy for Chief Petty Officer, and it sure seems like "CPOMZ" is abbreviated for Chief Petty Officer Mendez. So he did go to train new spartans, and it would explain why Master Chief never saw Chief Mendez again on Reach; because the "512-character alphanumeric string" that follows "CPOMZ" is a "reference to a star chart" that is "not a destination to any location in UNSC-controlled space." (p130).
And I bet that is where Dr. Halsey headed off to with Kelly.

I had read Fall of Reach, and First Strike, and a part of the Chief's armor caught my attention. According to the books, there's a kind of reactive gel sandwiched between the inner and outer layers of the suit. This gel is supposed to be both pressure and temperature sensitive, and able to adjust its properties on the fly. I had recently read a news article about a substance that does just this. It's called magnetorheological fluid. Essentially it's metal particles suspended in an oil or other liquid. When an electrical current is applied the viscosity of the fluid changes almost instantaneously. And it isn't science-fiction or even science-theory. It's in use, and you can find the stuff inside the shock absorbers on the 50th Anniversary Chevrolet Corvette. There it's used to provide a comfortable ride without losing any cornering capability. The military wants to use it to make a bulletproof body armor that's both flexible and impervious.

Reference: http://halosm.bungie.org/story/spartan.html





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  • 05.05.2004 3:42 PM PDT
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A clear statement, supported information, and complete sentences. Holy crap it's an actual theory about the spartans and their involvment in Halo 2. Way to go, I agree by the way.

  • 05.05.2004 3:45 PM PDT
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I basically copied, one or two editing. That's why I put that reference, it really isn't mine, the thanks goes to those at that link. But I thought that it was amazing.

  • 05.05.2004 3:46 PM PDT
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Feel free to add any other mysteries or interesting facts.

  • 05.05.2004 3:52 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

i never thought about it that way but holy sh*it it makes a lot of sense. i dont know why it didnt ring a bell in my head

  • 05.05.2004 3:54 PM PDT
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Hey did you know that there are a secret hat in halo??

  • 05.05.2004 3:55 PM PDT
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hat?

  • 05.05.2004 3:57 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

i want to know a question to why there are dead marines were there havent been any people yet on the halo ring. i read somewhere else that in the fall of reach when they went to chi cheti it took 25 days but it only took 20 days or so to get to halo so maybe the halo was inside the human boundarys and oni had found it but didnt tell anyone and secretly explored it

  • 05.05.2004 3:58 PM PDT
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no idea, good mystery

  • 05.05.2004 4:02 PM PDT
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Well I'll put this out here for you: Great theory about the liquid and a nice discovery. But here's something for you to chew on. Read the Enkidu letters enkidu.bungie.org and join our posts. We've already discussed this. As it is evidenced that 4 Spartans made it off of Reach as well as the 3 that never came back. Also, the book does note that Ackerson (a marine not a Navy officer) was trying to steal secrets to make his own Spartan-like program.

But none the less, join our fun.

[EDIT] I apologize for the link, try it now [/EDIT]

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  • 05.05.2004 4:04 PM PDT
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Will do.

  • 05.05.2004 4:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Abolitionofman
Well I'll put this out here for you: Great theory about the liquid and a nice discovery. But here's something for you to chew on. Read the Enkidu letters [url]enkidu.bungie.org[/url] and join our posts. We've already discussed this. As it is evidenced that 4 Spartans made it off of Reach as well as the 3 that never came back. Also, the book does note that Ackerson (a marine not a Navy officer) was trying to steal secrets to make his own Spartan-like program.

But none the less, join our fun.


5 spartans made it off reach and 3 are off elsewhere. Kelly was the 5th who was wounded and healed by Halsey then taken to who knows where

  • 05.05.2004 4:12 PM PDT
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Well I excluded Linda. From reach so in total 5 exist from Reach.

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  • 05.05.2004 4:13 PM PDT
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That's what I thought.

  • 05.05.2004 4:20 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

in the fall of reach not all the spartans are acounted for when all people who were left after surviving the augmentations there are 33 when they are briefed about there mission in 2552 John says there are 2 dozen 24+3 kias+3off fighting+ 1 baldly wounded and unable to return so that makes 31 left but the 3 kias were in the last decade so include sam that's 32 i may have interpreted the reading wrong so someone please check if you can to

  • 05.05.2004 4:23 PM PDT
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About that ONI already knowing about Halo idea. Flat out wrong, from what I can tell. We stumbled on Halo sort of by accident(thanks to Cortana) and the Covenant pursued the Pillar of Autumn because they, the Covenant, were just going there themselves and wanted to beat us to the punch. Keep us away from the Forerunner relics. Now about all those dead marines.

First off in many instances we already made an assault on an area ahead of the Master Chief. Meaning only survivors from the Pillar of Autumn, no ONI personnel. They failed, so they sent him in. On top of that in levels like the Silent Cartographer. Why not attack several parts of the island at once? Makes sense to me. Heck even sending in some recon before sending in the big guns is smart.

If this made no sense, please tell me.

  • 05.05.2004 4:25 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

your right about the three if they werent recaled then why would they be 3 days later but in the fs they say there are 29 spartans or something like that

  • 05.05.2004 4:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shotgun master
in the fall of reach not all the spartans are acounted for when all people who were left after surviving the augmentations there are 33 when they are briefed about there mission in 2552 John says there are 2 dozen 24+3 kias+3off fighting+ 1 baldly wounded and unable to return so that makes 31 left but the 3 kias were in the last decade so include sam that's 32 i may have interpreted the reading wrong so someone please check if you can to


You have Sam dead. That is one KIA. Then two more dead, one badly wounded, and the rest.

From 33 that leaves 29. Then the three that were gone. Making 26. And the Chief as one of them.

  • 05.05.2004 4:27 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

yes but maybe it was highly classied that they found halo maybe noone knew and it would be stupid to send marines ahead and waste there lives since they only have a limited amount

  • 05.05.2004 4:28 PM PDT
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Ya, the Spartans John (MC), Linda, Will, Fred, and Kelly are all alive. Kelly is somewhere with Dr. Halsey while the rest are on their way to Earth to prepare for the inevitable Covenant battle. I sure hope that co-op incorporates the other spartans instead of making an invisible copy of MC like in H:CE. That would be awesome to have a 4 player co-op with other existing spartans that could change cinematics to incorporate more than MC alone.

  • 05.05.2004 4:29 PM PDT
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Nice idea.

  • 05.05.2004 4:30 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

sam would have to be the 4th though because it says 3 in the last decade(10 years) and sam died 32 ago

  • 05.05.2004 4:30 PM PDT
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been discused, old new, go away, small theory, blah, no credit to u...why the -blam!- is this posted? this is all old news, go to the forums.xbox.com forums and they'll own u, its all old news, also u just say "S-iii means spartan 3" blah blah blah...so? what connection does this have...old news...u are bad at theorys (or whoever made this theory up)

  • 05.05.2004 4:34 PM PDT

I like my Covenant like i like my woman, screamin and with a sticky on there face.

dude screw you we want to talk about it we can and if you dont like it leave you. it's as simple as that.

  • 05.05.2004 4:40 PM PDT
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Man, thats amazing proof. Good copyright. lol

  • 05.05.2004 5:22 PM PDT

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