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Subject: B.net: Guide to Respect
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That's right. My plumage is brighter than yours.

I've just been witnessing so many people on this forum totally being humiliated, reputations ruined, and many people creating new accounts to ease the pain. Well, I won't let that happen again! Echo is here with a guide to totally not getting pwned in the face! Besides, while spending your eternity here, you'd be better off being liked, right?

Follow the Rules

Do not just join the forum with this air of high and mightyness surrounding you so that you think you know the East and West of Zanzibar. It just won't work out. Actually take the fifteen minutes to read all of the forum and Code of Conduct rules before posting your mindless dribble in the wrong forums.

Just Let it Slide

Just in case you completely blank read the preceding rule, then at least pay attention to this one to not make yourself look like too much of an idiot when this time comes. Let us say that you just posted this completely offtopic thread in, oh, The Underground about, oh, Stubbs the Zombie. Since Stubbs the Zombie has nothing to do with Bungie general discussion or oldschool games, the moderator, oh, Sigma sleep-locks it. Don't get all pissy about it and create a thread about your problem. That'll just make you look like an idiot. It'll also get deleted and/or locked. Let us say that you have thus far read both rules, and you have posted that Stubbs the Zombie thread in The Underground, and you find that it goes missing, here is your chance for a little field work. First, go back through the page to see if your thread has just been kicked back a page. If not, then contact the whichever mod seems to be patroling that forum the most at the moment, and ask about it. If you find your thread locked, then look for a reason to it's locking withing the thread....most mods like to execute you with a toast. If no reason is given, then look back at the beginning of this rule; don't make a whiney thread wondering why 'MY FUKING THRED JSUT GAWT DLETED!!1', instead, just contact a moderator and see what's going on. Tis simple, right?

Private Messaging

While private messages, or PMs, aren't greatly concerned monitoring zones for the moderators, this doesn't mean that you can use it for any simpleminded task you want. Here is a hint: No one likes spam via PM. No one liked spam via anything, actually, but it's alot worst throught PMs because you're building up this person's excitement of having a new message.....and then SPAM! People don't like a PM asking to join this certain group and then hopefully you'd join theirs. People don't like pages of messages that look like this. PMs should also NOT be used for flaming without humiliating youself in a post. Remember the adage: "Getting in an argument over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded". What PMs SHOULD be used for: The kind of things that you might include in an IM with a friend, something stupid or funny that the addressee would like, or maybe just a question that you know the person can answer for you. Good PMs look like this. Bad ones look like this. Comprendas?

Thread Making

To delve into the proper post, we first have to cut through the thread itself. So, let us, again, say that you are the one wanting to make the thread. First, make sure it's nothing stupid, despite what forum it's in. A thread entitled "." with a post body consisting of "HAHa made joo look!" is just stupid....too stupid even for the Flood. Then, rising in properness, comes 'threads that should actually be PMs' and the 'Test Threads'. There are uses for the PM system and Test Chapters, so don't waste bumping space in the forums, jerk! Moving up a tier comes the threads along the lines of 'We got a spammer' and 'I'm going into Zanzibar!'. first off, do you really think a page of spam has gone completely unacknowledged by everyone else? Making a thread addressing ten pages of spam is just.....redundant. It's the thing people go "DERRR!" for. Don't do it. Up a couple tiers comes the threads that seem harmless, but are likely to go out of control or already are a bit on the spammish side......Shorty has been posting a bunchles of those XD

The Proper Post

Rule of thumb: It is not your thread. Ever. Even when you created the thread, even when you sweated blood over your keyboard to create this fiasco, it still isn't yours. The thread is completely and totally the idea of it's post. With that said, keep on topic. No one likes someone to come into a thread titled, say, 'In Memory of Kurt Cobain', and have a bunch of junior Feds coming in and changing the subject to Courtney Love. It's very rude and inconsiderate. If you're coming into a thread to hijack it, at least have the courtesy of telling others not to follow suit. A simple "I don't mean to hijack the thread...." is all you need to say to get in your tidbit without getting the thread locked. Also, NO FLAMMING. It's really depressing for someone to start making fun of someone they don't even know online about liking a certain type of music or for being of a certain clique or whatever. Not only will it make other's like him or her hate you, but also the flamee will likely have a never ending grudge against you, so when you wreck your pinto into a ditch just outside of that certain person's house, don't expect a warm reception. Expect being pelted with marshmellows, and embrace it. You deserve it you bastard.

Sheewwww. That's about all I can manage to fit on here for tonight. Maybe some other time I'll update the list for you all. Echo out.


[Edited on 11/6/2005]

  • 11.06.2005 8:41 PM PDT

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You can't make a guide to respect. People either have it or they don't. Telling people what is right and wrong is like leading a horse to water....you can take it there but you can't make it drink.

  • 11.06.2005 8:43 PM PDT
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That's right. My plumage is brighter than yours.

Coincidentily, you can't make someone create a good chapter or make a nice group theme, right?

  • 11.06.2005 8:47 PM PDT
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I'm always thirsty

  • 11.06.2005 9:27 PM PDT
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I'd prefer a guide to etiquette.

IMHO, the general concept of forum "respect" sucks. It just seems like a way to be subtlely elitist towards less "respected" users.

  • 11.06.2005 10:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Psyched
I'd prefer a guide to etiquette.

IMHO, the general concept of forum "respect" sucks. It just seems like a way to be subtlely elitist towards less "respected" users.

Just cos you get no respect...

"In my humble opinion..." indeed...

:P

Tristan ;-)

  • 11.07.2005 4:18 AM PDT

-Quaere verum.

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hehe. Psyched just got toasted. Anywho, nice job echo. It sure would help if more people respect one another but also realised that all "members" are equal.

  • 11.07.2005 4:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Gods Prophet
hehe. Psyched just got toasted. Anywho, nice job echo. It sure would help if more people respect one another but also realised that all "members" are equal.

And remember that I'm more equal than they are...

>_>

<_<

Tristan ;-)

  • 11.07.2005 4:31 AM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Posted by: Gods Prophet
hehe. Psyched just got toasted. Anywho, nice job echo. It sure would help if more people respect one another but also realised that all "members" are equal.


Now Toast needs to get Psyched!

And great job! The italics were a bit tough to read through, but I thought it was well done.

  • 11.07.2005 7:20 AM PDT
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Respect, you only need to respect 2 people in life; mother and father.

It's an online forum that anyone can join in. To give my "respect" to a complete stranger that for all I know in real life is a na-zi or worse, is retarded. And to actually try to improve this place is futile, since Bungie does what they want, when they want. If they would listen to the majority of fans/users, Halo 2 would be > than Halo 1, and people wouldn't need to post topics on "online respect", since they'd have it already.

  • 11.07.2005 7:30 AM PDT

-Quaere verum.

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Chairleg Productions presents: 'Console Wars' and 'Games as Art?' (also on Halo Waypoint).

If you cannot respect anyone other than your parents, then i pitty you. Now due to certain rules i cannot even start to get into a discussion about real life is a na-zi or worse, is retarded. However, i can express my opinion that maintaining and improving this place is not futile. I don't think you realise that Bungie do listen to fans and the community here at bungie.net. As far as halo 2 < Halo 1, this is a matter of opinion and technically nothing Bungie can do would change that opinion. Finally, people do need to learn respect. Respect not only for their elders but for their fellow man, because without repect and kindness, what sort of community would this be?

Fin

[This post was in reply to: Janitor_Boy. Posted: 11/7/2005 7:30 AM]

[Edited on 11/7/2005]

  • 11.07.2005 7:54 AM PDT
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I do respect many other people than my folks, I just don't have to. And please, state a direct outcome from this site to online. With proof, no "this happened and this". There has been no accepted input that turned into a true update or add on thus far.

And i think everyone already knows what kind of community it is without respect, the one we know.


taco



This Post in reply to: "Gods Prophet", as written here on the 7th of November, in the year of our lord 2005. /Sarcasm

[Edited on 11/7/2005]

  • 11.07.2005 8:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Janitor_Boy
I do respect many other people than my folks, I just don't have to.


Well i agree, but i am interested to know why you felt to need to state this. This thread is not telling you to do anything and this point is, in my opinion, sufficiently justified in the above posts.

  • 11.07.2005 8:25 AM PDT
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Well, yippie skippy, ditto to you sir.

  • 11.07.2005 8:29 AM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Posted by: Janitor_Boy
I do respect many other people than my folks, I just don't have to. And please, state a direct outcome from this site to online. With proof, no "this happened and this". There has been no accepted input that turned into a true update or add on thus far.

And i think everyone already knows what kind of community it is without respect, the one we know.


taco



This Post in reply to: "Gods Prophet", as written here on the 7th of November, in the year of our lord 2005. /Sarcasm


I have to admit, that last bit was pretty funny.

And yes, there has been. Look at the activity log on groups- that was back by popular demand. Actually, Bungie is doing this whole site for us. They don't need to spend the money on this, but they do. They will make a few more bucks in the long run, but is it that hard to believe that they are actually good people? Look at the Weekly Updates, the fan submitted news, and the entire group system. They didn't need to do all that, but they did it anyway.

  • 11.07.2005 8:33 AM PDT
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Sry, my mistake. I mean't to write "on-live" not "on-line"
Yes, online much has been added/ changed.

  • 11.07.2005 8:36 AM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

I see.

So the downloadable content, new playlists and auto-updates never really happened?

  • 11.07.2005 8:37 AM PDT
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Oh, they did. Just nothing the community really asked for:

New weapons, Old maps back, fix to pp/br, yeah, those things.
And where exactly were those things you stated asked for??? I don't remember anyone asking for the magnum to be dropped in power., or the sword lunge to be fixed. But im imagining that right?

[Edited on 11/7/2005]

  • 11.07.2005 9:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: Janitor_Boy
Oh, they did. Just nothing the community really asked for:

New weapons, Old maps back, fix to pp/br, yeah, those things.
And where exactly were those things you stated asked for??? I don't remember anyone asking for the magnum to be dropped in power., or the sword lunge to be fixed. But im imagining that right?


Wrong again :) The community did ask for new playlists and maps. Hang em high was asked for many times but Bungie could'nt deliver b/c the new psychics would have ruined the map. Maps from Halo CE were put in Halo 2, just in a differnet syle. As for the pistol, no one wanted it to change but it did. Get over it.

  • 11.07.2005 9:28 AM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

Actaully, yes. People did ask for all those things. Just because you didn't doesn't mean nobody else did.

And I think it's funny how you sent me this little PM-

Are we arguing?
Since we are,
You win Retard


but then you keep the argument going, hence insulting yourself as well.

  • 11.07.2005 9:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pimp at Sea
Actaully, yes. People did ask for all those things. Just because you didn't doesn't mean nobody else did.

And I think it's funny how you sent me this little PM-

Are we arguing?
Since we are,
You win Retard


but then you keep the argument going, hence insulting yourself as well.


Indeed

  • 11.07.2005 9:32 AM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

EDIT: Oops. Double post.

[Edited on 11/7/2005]

  • 11.07.2005 9:32 AM PDT
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Except if it was sent as a submission...
then none of what you just said makes sense...

  • 11.07.2005 9:52 AM PDT
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I assumed it was sent as a submission, but the thing is that when you send someone a submission, you usually submit :P

  • 11.07.2005 10:04 AM PDT

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