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Posted by: Venator82
Posted by: Spartan999
Posted by: Venator82
All of the fixes you came up with are facts that were introduced specifically for Halo: Reach.
Which means that they had to come up with that stuff to try to make their story work.
That may not be "broken" in the minds of some. Of course, by extension of that logic nothing could ever be broken.
But it is undeniable that things were changed.
Like what? What wes changed? I want a true, undeniable change, that nobody, and I mean nobody can seem to present to me. If you can do that, you'll be my hero for doing what nobody else can do.
Really? The Spartan III's working with Jorge and Halsey is a huge one...
1.) SIII's were specifically designed for suicide missions, I don't see what suicide mission they would've been on for them to be on Reach.
2.) SII's and Dr. Halsey herself did not know of the SIII's until the events of GoO, which takes place long after the events of Reach, yet Jorge is working with them and Dr. Halsey is giving them orders.
3.) SII armor is superior in durability than SIII armor; with 4 SII's dying in orbital drop to Reach in FoR and MC himself getting "locked up" in an orbital drop to Earth in Halo 3; yet you as a SIII not only survived such a drop, but seemed rather fine to boot.
4.) Cortana specifically states in FoR and even Halo 3, that she choose MC, out of all the Spartans she choose MC. Yet according to the game Reach, she choose Nobel six BEFORE she picked MC...
5.) When the game first starts the military doesn't know the Covenant are attacking and instead think that it is insurrectionists; if this is to be believed, why was a team of Spartans sent to handle them? SII's WERE designed to battle the insurrectionists yes, but SIII's WERE designed to battle the covenant; they wouldn't have been called.
6.) Brutes weren't on Reach, Reach was attacked by the Thel's Fleet, Thel doesn't allow Brutes in his fleet due to the events of Cole Protocol; this is why there were no Brutes in Halo: CE.
7.) The building underground you go to get Cortana is said, by Dr. Halsey, to be neither man nor covenant. In First Strike when her and the Spartans discover underground tunnels that are neither man nor covenant made, Dr. Halsey is amazed that such things exist on Reach that they had never found previously.
8.) MC states that all the SII's are onboard the PoA except for three too far to be called back easily, in FoR. This would mean that Jorge should have been on the PoA, the three too far is Gray Team from Cole Protocol. If Jorge was thought dead then it is strange that Dr. Halsey was not surprised or even suspicious that he was still alive and with 5 other Spartans that she had never met before.
9.) in FoR, PoA is being sent on a high priority mission with all remaining Spartans, except for the three too far away to be called back. With all the spartans in cryo sleep, but in route to their mission they receive word that Reach is under attack and redirect themselves to Reach. Yet in the game Reach, Reach is already being attacked before PoA even sets off for that mission...
10.) The SIII's are a higher than top secret project, more so than the SII project. Their existence was not even known of, so they wouldn't have been sent to handle insurrectionists, or fight in civilian cities, or put on Reach in the first place. Even Dr. Halsey didn't know of their existence until after Reach. Yet in the game they did all this, and made it quite apparent that they were something different than a SII.
11.) When Cortana initially choose MC, her and he was put together (by the use of the Mjolnir armor) and conducted a practice exercise against some longswords prior to going to the PoA, their initial meeting and practice exercise couldn't have happened by the events of the game Reach.
12.) Reach was a completely military owned and run planet used as a ship port and training camp, yet there are more civilians on the planet than military in the events of the game Reach.
13.) Scavengers never existed... in the books, in the comics, in the games... And you don't kill them off in Reach, giving no explanation as to why they weren't in Halo: CE, 2, 3, ODST, etc. At least the Engineers had the books, comics, and ODST...
14.) It is specifically stated in Ghost of Onyx that Kurt is the only Spartan to ever be an officer, until he promotes Fred near the end. Yet all of Nobel Team are officers in Reach...
15.) In Ghosts of Onyx it is specifically stated that Alpha Company was made in 2431 out of 400 children between 4 and 6 years old, yet Carter's birth year is 2520, making him 11 when he was in Alpha Company with the 4-6 year olds...
16.) All the other reasons that have already been listed by the many others who see that Reach is a complete contradiction of not only the FoR, but also FS, GoO, the comics, and even the original games (Cortana states that she choose MC out of all the Spartans in Halo 3, MC barley survived orbital free fall with his durable SII armor, etc.)
You can go and think up explanations all you want but the point of the matter is that the game does not give any explanations for these contradictions and your "guess" is not a valid excuse. One or two contradictions can be understandable, but this game is essentially telling that fans, "don't take the time to read the books because we'll just come out with a game that changes it all". One change here and there is easily accepted, such as the Skirmishers and such... Remember how Engineers showed in ODST... But when it is to a level as this, it is no different than if DC comics suddenly said "Superman has never been weak to Kryptonite"... (yeah, that's a comic reference... I couldn't think of a more world renown character)