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Subject: MA37 ICWS AR. It should take 16 rounds to kill

I think it needs either

A: More range and damage.
B: Less bloom and a higher fire rate.

  • 12.22.2010 8:01 PM PDT


Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: matt102992

Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: DOINKEN
I only use the AR if I have the female spartan selected.


:| May I ask why?


Cause he feels like a woman for using a p u s s y weapon


wow
1. I didn't asked U
2. I can beat you with an AR while you have a DMR ( even mid range )


wow
1. I don't give a -blam!- about your opinion tbh
2. Lol yeah and God is real /sarcasm

  • 12.22.2010 8:02 PM PDT

Yes, he got it, but I was joking anyway.

I always use the pistol/alternate weapon

  • 12.22.2010 8:03 PM PDT

Play the game like it is real; use cover, use teamwork and you will survive.


Posted by: matt102992
How about they change it to 24 to kill?


Said the guy that doesn't know how to use it and think he knows what to do with it.

I assume that, if you don't use the AR, it is because you think it is underpowered.

  • 12.22.2010 8:04 PM PDT

Play the game like it is real; use cover, use teamwork and you will survive.


Posted by: matt102992

1. I don't give a -blam!- about your opinion tbh


lol then why reply

  • 12.22.2010 8:06 PM PDT

Play the game like it is real; use cover, use teamwork and you will survive.


Posted by: DOINKEN
Yes, he got it, but I was joking anyway.

I always use the pistol/alternate weapon


ohh ok :\

  • 12.22.2010 8:06 PM PDT


Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: matt102992
How about they change it to 24 to kill?


Said the guy that doesn't know how to use it and think he knows what to do with it.

I assume that, if you don't use the AR, it is because you think it is underpowered.


Don't know how to use an AR? Point and hold down the trigger, real -blam!- hard.

  • 12.22.2010 8:08 PM PDT

I think it's fine how it is, but should have a much smaller range and appear in MM less.

  • 12.22.2010 8:08 PM PDT

Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: matt102992
How about they change it to 24 to kill?


Said the guy that doesn't know how to use it and think he knows what to do with it.

I assume that, if you don't use the AR, it is because you think it is underpowered.

I don't use it because I feel like a mentally-handicapped seven-year-old, running around, holding the right trigger until the person dies. No offense, just a personal thing... I tend to avoid it at any cost. I'm proud to have more kills with the *pulls up stats* Sword, Plasma 'Nade, Ghost, Frag, Shotgun, Needle Rifle, Melee, Pistol, DMR, and the Sniper (in that ascending order ;]) I know, cool story, right? I know it's somewhat off-topic, but I needed to brag somewhere right? xD

  • 12.22.2010 8:19 PM PDT


Posted by: RIZEUTO
The magasine size increase would be a way to help players who start shooting earlier, but the more skilled option is to increase the individual round's damage, rewarding marksmanship more.


exactly!

  • 12.22.2010 8:28 PM PDT
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Yes
with a higher damage ratio the assault rifle would be near perfection
with a system of rewarding the marksmanship of players while punishing the spray and pray of others I would gladly chose it instead of the DMR, in most cases, even though I already do.

Ammo is fine in my opinion

  • 12.22.2010 8:42 PM PDT

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  • 12.22.2010 8:59 PM PDT

Even in halo 3 u could not kill 2 people with one clip of ammo and honestly i think because of the weaker DMR/BR if anything should be done is increased clip size that is it and not by much

  • 12.22.2010 9:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: matt102992

Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: matt102992
How about they change it to 24 to kill?


Said the guy that doesn't know how to use it and think he knows what to do with it.

I assume that, if you don't use the AR, it is because you think it is underpowered.


Don't know how to use an AR? Point and hold down the trigger, real -blam!- hard.


I don't think you noticed, but you have to be mentally retarded to just hold the trigger down. Against a skilled player you're dead instantly.

If you can't burst fire, with correct bursts at correct ranges, don't bother posting.

The reason I say you may have not noticed is because I think you, infact, ARE mentally retarded.

  • 12.23.2010 3:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: ItsJantz
Even in halo 3 u could not kill 2 people with one clip of ammo and honestly i think because of the weaker DMR/BR if anything should be done is increased clip size that is it and not by much

In Halo 3, it was 16 to kill.

With the new melee system and slower RoF, that is ballanced out.

The improved range, makes it more skill oriented, but just not as usefull.

  • 12.23.2010 3:02 PM PDT


Posted by: matt102992

Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: matt102992
How about they change it to 24 to kill?


Said the guy that doesn't know how to use it and think he knows what to do with it.

I assume that, if you don't use the AR, it is because you think it is underpowered.


Don't know how to use an AR? Point and hold down the trigger, real -blam!- hard.


By any chance is your idea of driving spinning that thing that they call a "steering wheel" randomly while having your foot so far down on the pedal that you can hear the bottom of it scrape the floor beneath?

It's actually about as simple as predicting the weather using a piece of paper and a pitchfork.

Which is probably why you have a single kill with it and 15 deaths by it in your brief existance of matchmaking.

[Edited on 12.23.2010 3:08 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 3:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: matt102992

Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: matt102992
How about they change it to 24 to kill?


Said the guy that doesn't know how to use it and think he knows what to do with it.

I assume that, if you don't use the AR, it is because you think it is underpowered.


Don't know how to use an AR? Point and hold down the trigger, real -blam!- hard.


Go back under your bridge, we don't need any more hate in this thread. All we need is more logic, humor, and fun. And if anyone is going to be mocking the rampant Earl McDouchcockyism in here, it's going to be me, so stop being knee-jerking arses, you two.

  • 12.23.2010 5:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Telomee

Posted by: matt102992

Posted by: xVALKYRIE 360x

Posted by: matt102992
How about they change it to 24 to kill?


Said the guy that doesn't know how to use it and think he knows what to do with it.

I assume that, if you don't use the AR, it is because you think it is underpowered.


Don't know how to use an AR? Point and hold down the trigger, real -blam!- hard.


Go back under your bridge, we don't need any more hate in this thread. All we need is more logic, humor, and fun. And if anyone is going to be mocking the rampant Earl McDouchcockyism in here, it's going to be me, so stop being knee-jerking arses, you two.


Good one :P

  • 12.24.2010 3:20 AM PDT

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1st, 3rd and 4th answer is correct.

  • 12.24.2010 4:00 AM PDT
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Any argument against the change has been disproveen.

All the reasons I have given in favor of the change are logical and still stand.

Not much to debate.

  • 12.25.2010 4:35 AM PDT

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No, the AR has been just fine

  • 12.25.2010 4:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: wildnuke
No, the AR has been just fine


Yes, it HAS been fine. Not anymore, as you can see from the hundreds of posts in this thread, as well as the poll.

  • 12.25.2010 4:51 AM PDT
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If you never give up, you never lose.

I die A LOT by AR fire. I have almost twice as much deaths by AR than by pistol fire. If I were to complain about the AR, i'd say it is overpowered.

Bungie did a good job balancing them out, because I don't always kill AR wielders at close range with my pistol. the only way to kill them is to spam bullets and hope you get either a headshot or don't get a traded beatdown.

At longer ranges, the pistol obviously wins. but they can still take out pistol wielders if they strafe well and burst fire.

in other words, it's fine the way it is.

  • 12.25.2010 4:58 AM PDT


Posted by: RIZEUTO
Any argument against the change has been disproveen.

All the reasons I have given in favor of the change are logical and still stand.

Not much to debate.


You still haven't disproven my argument.

I tested the burst firing rate of the AR and compared it to other precision weapons. At my rate, it's faster than a full-auto needle rifle. It's not rendered, but this is the rate I can do at best. The DMR usually loses as well, but it can still spam their way to victory because it's bloom is too forgiving.

The problem with the AR is not a slow kill time, but lack of auto-aim at anything further than mid range. But it would make the pistol obsolete if it had any more range. It's really balanced right now. Make it any better, and I would never drop my AR for another weapon.

  • 12.25.2010 5:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wobbly_guy

Posted by: RIZEUTO
Any argument against the change has been disproveen.

All the reasons I have given in favor of the change are logical and still stand.

Not much to debate.


You still haven't disproven my argument.

I tested the burst firing rate of the AR and compared it to other precision weapons. At my rate, it's faster than a full-auto needle rifle. It's not rendered, but this is the rate I can do at best. The DMR usually loses as well, but it can still spam their way to victory because it's bloom is too forgiving.

The problem with the AR is not a slow kill time, but lack of auto-aim at anything further than mid range. But it would make the pistol obsolete if it had any more range. It's really balanced right now. Make it any better, and I would never drop my AR for another weapon.


(Downloaded the video, but I'm about 400 miles away from my xbox so I can't view it)

I see your point and I really think you ae right, just one thing though, I didn't saw the video but still I can tell you that moving target is harder to hit at close-mid range with an AR. More aim assist would be really nice indeed.

  • 12.25.2010 1:08 PM PDT