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Subject: MA37 ICWS AR. It should take 16 rounds to kill

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I find it pretty ridiculous that the standard-issue UNSC gun has an effective range of about 10 metres, and even then it's impossible to kill more than a single enemy with one magazine. Something with an effective range of the silenced SMG in ODST would have been much better in my opinion.

  • 01.25.2011 6:19 AM PDT

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I agree it should have a damamge buff, it really won't affect me much. My number 5 weapon in Competitive is the AR. I always drop Magnum over AR tbh... I've burst-fire across medium-sized maps and killed people with DMRs. But it does feel a tad lacking sometimes... Idk why, just close range against a DMR spammer spells certain death too much of the time. AR shouldn't lose out to DMR in CQC except maybe once in a blue moon... I think 16 shots per kill is an awesome idea.

  • 01.25.2011 6:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Merzain
I agree it should have a damamge buff, it really won't affect me much. My number 5 weapon in Competitive is the AR. I always drop Magnum over AR tbh... I've burst-fire across medium-sized maps and killed people with DMRs. But it does feel a tad lacking sometimes... Idk why, just close range against a DMR spammer spells certain death too much of the time. AR shouldn't lose out to DMR in CQC except maybe once in a blue moon... I think 16 shots per kill is an awesome idea.


Thanks, I'm in the same situation, though, I've started to use the Magnum more, as it pays off to spam at CQB, and is a good mid-range weapon.

But I'd rather use the AR, they way it's meant to be!

  • 01.25.2011 11:33 AM PDT
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I hope this gets implemented in a TU.

  • 01.25.2011 12:00 PM PDT
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Yes, the AR should be buffed. But precision weapons like the DMR, Pistol and NR need serious buffs in order to balance it out.

  • 01.25.2011 12:02 PM PDT
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Was the AR in Halo CE the best at getting kills? Was it more effective?

  • 01.25.2011 12:02 PM PDT
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The Only BR-AR Thread

Remember this? Nowdays, the AR is so underpowered that it can't even compare to the DMR, let alone make a sticky thread!

  • 01.25.2011 12:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: RIZEUTO

But I wouldn't change the DMR, but rather get the UP weapons to work properly.

The AR needs this buff.


Yup, If we nerf what's kinda okay, everything will not be powerfull enough. We need to give the less powerful weapon a little push so the sandbox gets an overall balance.

  • 01.25.2011 9:39 PM PDT

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The damage output definitely would be a great benifit, 16 rounds for a kill is a great suggestion.

I feel as if this AR is actually a bit better, considering the new Sheild system.


While AR beatdowns are not as prevelant, we now have hitscan with this weapon, the rounds flew way too slowly in Halo 3, also and the bloom is actually a visual representation of what already happend in Halo 3, fire in 2 round bursts, and the weapon is deadly accurate.

  • 01.25.2011 9:52 PM PDT


Posted by: sammyb123
I find it pretty ridiculous that the standard-issue UNSC gun has an effective range of about 10 metres, and even then it's impossible to kill more than a single enemy with one magazine. Something with an effective range of the silenced SMG in ODST would have been much better in my opinion.


LOL.

The Reach AR has more range than the silenced SMG.

It has more range than even CE's AR. Its hitscan, that means infinite range.

The gun is fine as is in reach. Its supposed to be a beast in close quarters, and a medium range support/suppression weapon. Its not meant to kill at medium range, that's why we have the magnum and NR. If you increase the damage it becomes overpowered in mid range for its ease of use(like halo 3's AR on lan).

As far as clip size goes, I agree. Players should not be held back by a one kill clip.

  • 01.25.2011 10:11 PM PDT

We were somewhere around Barstow...

I like the Reach AR. If anything it feels more capable than recent models.

There's still obviously a niche for the SMG so it's a shame it left us.

  • 01.25.2011 10:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: jerbearzzz

Posted by: sammyb123
I find it pretty ridiculous that the standard-issue UNSC gun has an effective range of about 10 metres, and even then it's impossible to kill more than a single enemy with one magazine. Something with an effective range of the silenced SMG in ODST would have been much better in my opinion.


LOL.

The Reach AR has more range than the silenced SMG.

It has more range than even CE's AR. Its hitscan, that means infinite range.

The gun is fine as is in reach. Its supposed to be a beast in close quarters, and a medium range support/suppression weapon. Its not meant to kill at medium range, that's why we have the magnum and NR. If you increase the damage it becomes overpowered in mid range for its ease of use(like halo 3's AR on lan).

As far as clip size goes, I agree. Players should not be held back by a one kill clip.


So many things wrong...

CE's AR was hit scan as well, just not as accurate.

It's not a beast even at close range.

Also, the AR is meant to be a short to medium range weapon.
With the decreased RoF, it is even more geared toward mid range.

Clip size may as well stay the same, if every round counts, and at the moment, the individual rounds are weak.

  • 01.26.2011 5:59 AM PDT

As a fan of the Assault Rifle


My general tactics for it is to usually throw a grenade and kill them off

  • 01.26.2011 6:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: PHILb0y147
As a fan of the Assault Rifle


My general tactics for it is to usually throw a grenade and kill them off


It should be able to hold it's own without grenades, as grenades help nearly every weapon.

  • 01.26.2011 12:27 PM PDT

I could definitely go for a bit more power behind the AR, but definitely not a bigger clip. The sound it makes when it is fired is awesome, but it then proceeds to shooting the equivalent of cotton balls at your enemies, which doesn't seem quite right to me, personally. A larger clip would be too much to me. Halo CE anyone?

  • 01.26.2011 12:36 PM PDT
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Buff the AR and what do we have? A Halo 3 AR spamfest again

  • 01.26.2011 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: MATO
Buff the AR and what do we have? A Halo 3 AR spamfest again


MATO, I told you to not post again untill you read the entire OP, and the other posts in the thread.

(I know you didn't, because if you did, you wouldn't say that, and you would at least explain your posts).

Judging by the votes, the minority, most of which have also not read the OP, or the other posts, are the only ones that agree with you, as 80% of voters believe that a buff is needed.

  • 01.26.2011 1:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: woodrow245
I could definitely go for a bit more power behind the AR, but definitely not a bigger clip. The sound it makes when it is fired is awesome, but it then proceeds to shooting the equivalent of cotton balls at your enemies, which doesn't seem quite right to me, personally. A larger clip would be too much to me. Halo CE anyone?


Exactly what I've been saying for a while now.

Large magasine = spraying

More damage per round = perfect

  • 01.26.2011 1:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: AngrydoG
watch it get fixed in title update.


I hope it does.

But when will the TU be coming? :(

  • 01.26.2011 2:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: ArmourElite
I like the Reach AR. If anything it feels more capable than recent models.

There's still obviously a niche for the SMG so it's a shame it left us.


It has better accuracy. But in reality, it doesen't pack much of a punch.

  • 01.28.2011 4:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: MATO
Buff the AR and what do we have? A Halo 3 AR spamfest again

And how the hell would that be bad?
Just kill them from afar, you're a horrible player if you're worried about other players holding the trigger down.

  • 01.28.2011 2:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: RIZEUTO

Posted by: woodrow245
I could definitely go for a bit more power behind the AR, but definitely not a bigger clip. The sound it makes when it is fired is awesome, but it then proceeds to shooting the equivalent of cotton balls at your enemies, which doesn't seem quite right to me, personally. A larger clip would be too much to me. Halo CE anyone?


Exactly what I've been saying for a while now.

Large magasine = spraying

More damage per round = perfect

  • 01.28.2011 4:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Stalkerz 67

Posted by: MATO
Buff the AR and what do we have? A Halo 3 AR spamfest again

And how the hell would that be bad?
Just kill them from afar, you're a horrible player if you're worried about other players holding the trigger down.


And with the Reach AR being more suited to burst fire at just above shotgun range - mid range, you'd truly have to be the worst Halo player alive to be worried about players spraying.

  • 01.29.2011 2:49 PM PDT