Halo 1 & 2 for PC
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today is 1 year sice we were depraved of h2 and during this year i`ve seen people defect from PC to xbox...i`ve seen people get mad and never come back...i`ve seen tribute vids with a sad ending where great players leave the game for good leaving more room for the inbred morons...i`ve seen the decline of a great game,the ignorance and horrible attitude of a company to it`s fans an customers...so basicly i`m giving up hopefor this damn forum...i`m drop by just like now and read a write some stuff but i`m not geting involved anymore...pointless and pathetic...c`ya around guys.

  • 11.09.2005 3:57 AM PDT
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Yeah...right...keep dreamin dude...

But seriously...it`s unlike me to give hope up but 1 waiting for a damn 2/3 word sentence makes people sick of waiting...and disgusted.

It`s realy crap the way they treated the PC fans...even if the H2 players didn`t get what they asked for at least they got H2...even if it dose seem like it was churned out early just to fill pockets.

  • 11.10.2005 1:46 AM PDT
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MST 3000, look, im not sure if your annoyed b cos of Halo 2 on the PC. I know its annoying that we have waited so long, and stuff like that but it will come to the PC. Trust me dude.

  • 11.10.2005 9:32 AM PDT
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Dude...don`t worry i`m pretty sure it`ll come onto the PC...but i`m annoyed at bungie for ignoring us totaly...sick of the mods selling us doughnuts...sick of the lack of comitment that bungie has twords it`s fans and customers...

  • 11.10.2005 9:42 AM PDT
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Lol, Achranos said that he'll reminds us if Sketchfactor changes the HALO 2 ON PC thread, i wonder what that means ... hehe i do. And Sketchfactor said that these plans may change in the future.

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  • 11.10.2005 3:21 PM PDT
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Halo 2 on PC?... Pffft, keep it. If we ever do see it's release I for one won't be buying it. Bungie have shown that they basically don't give a damn, and they also don't give a damn that there are a few disgruntled people on these forums who may or may not buy anymore of thier games. The hard truth is that, for every one of us that loses the faith there are another few people who come along to fill our shoes and keep the cash rolling.

It would seem nothing is going to change and from thier perspective, why should it? The money is still coming and that is what this whole thing is about at the end of the day. We are just voices in the crowd, and no one is listening...

  • 11.10.2005 6:02 PM PDT

Turn west on Broadway, and right at the second light on Welchester Road. There is a dirt path about a 1/4 mile way up, turn onto it. When you hit the interstate 56 sign pull back onto the road. From there take the road 38 miles towards Wisconsin. Get off at Exist 73 and take that street to Vermont Road, and take a left at the stop sign. Go down that street to the fifth house on the left. Go into the backyard and open the shed. There you will find my leaf blower, its yours to keep.

i will agree. i think bungie should just stick it up there ass and -blam!- it

i quit

  • 11.10.2005 6:19 PM PDT
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Hey...don`t try to get my thread closed...yet i`m sure that it will now cause of you`r very all grown up post...well whatever...

  • 11.11.2005 2:17 AM PDT
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...and thats why we haven't seen Muffmeister in a while.

  • 11.11.2005 10:55 AM PDT
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Well later MST3000 i do feel your pain in what your saying i to will probaly be gone for good as well. We all have to move on, especially when were being ignored. And when companies dont even wnat to fix there frecking mistakes.

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  • 11.11.2005 11:05 AM PDT
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i say get out of the house and gather friends have a halo 2 party with 15 people to play with. thats even better. and don't forget to order pizza. best way to waste a day!

  • 11.11.2005 9:06 PM PDT
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Dude while i don`t disagree with that being a good way to waste your day i`ll have to say that i`ll pass...mostly cause me and my friends don`t have xboxes nor would we think of getting any...waste of money...We`ve PC lan-partied tons of times and it was a blast...damn fun way to waste a weekend

  • 11.12.2005 1:38 AM PDT
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I feel ya mst300, bungie has left halo for pc slowly strangle itsself. Laggy servers, lack of updates, tkers...The list just keeps going on. The bungie forums has turned into one big flame war it seems like also. I rarley come here anymore. The only reason I do come back is to help people with computer problems.

I used to be a loyal fan of buniges, but after seeing how they treat there so called "loayal" fans that went out and baught there prouducts, I really dont think so good of them anymore

I havent played halo for pc in probally 3 months, and I dont think i'll play it anytime soon. Good bye, old friend

  • 11.12.2005 10:55 AM PDT
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You're all gonna hate me...

But drop this whole emo attitude. I'm going to give you a list of reasons as to why you shouldn't be so sincerely upset about this, and you can agree or not. Just realize that I'm trying to give you a counter view, since all we get around here is our own view of the situation.

1. Bungie has little affiliation with Halo PC. It's all in Gearbox's hands. Gearbox ported it, so nag them about the netcode and the poor shaders. Nag them about the outrageous system requirements for a 5 year old game. Nag them about multiplayer because they probably coded it, they probably made the dedicated server program, etc. Bungie gave them Halo for XBox and told them to port and make online multiplayer. Gearbox tells you to go to Bungie because they're too lazy and don't care. They didn't even make the game, they just ported it, so they have very little concern, and since Bungie didn't port it, they don't have much affiliation with it besides creating Halo for XBox.

2. The game is three years old, after all. Most companies don't release updates past a year, and since this is a port that happened 2 years after the original...well, it's surprising we got updates as late as we did that actually fixed some stuff.

3. How they treat their loyal fans? When you've got a problem with Halo PC, you go to Gearbox. They basically made it. It's them that have abused their customers. Bungie - how have they treated their fans? When their fans asked for changes in Halo 2, they delivered what the fans wanted. They listened to their fans the second time around when they knew what they wanted. True, this hasn't been so for Halo PC, but Halo PC isn't in their jurisdiction, so you can't hold them accountable.

Bungie didn't port Halo. They didn't -blam!- up the netcode and poorly optimize the game engine - Gearbox did. I suppose you're suggesting Bungie waltz over to Gearbox, demand the game files, and try and go back and fix something they never created? Pff, you think that's how companies function? No, companies are responsible for their mistakes - they're supposed to fix their own.

Gearbox most likely has some ownership of Halo PC. It may be that Bungie cannot release a patch under an agreement with them - that Gearbox must do it. Whatever the case, I don't think you can point the finger at Bungie. Besides, they've said that this forum has no real connection with the company, besides maybe Frankie who works on Halo 2 and the up-and-coming games.

Now, I'll get flamed, and people will tell me that it does lay in Bungie's hands. Well, see for yourselves. Gearbox calls Halo PC one of "their" games [I believe that porting companies gain certain ownership rights over the games they port, and many rights are transferred from developer to porter]. In addition, the 'official' website is run by Microsoft Game Studios. Yes, Microsoft owns Bungie, but Bungie is a seperate entity.

You want to hound someone for patches and improvements? Gearbox and M$ Game Studios are where your protests belong.

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  • 11.12.2005 9:56 PM PDT
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WE DONT NEED HALO2 ON PC!!!!!!!!!

h1>h2

we need like a matchmaking system and more gametypes and stuff like that.

  • 11.12.2005 10:09 PM PDT
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Acutaly JMT391 i do want Halo 2 PC since i want the single player mode and the better graphics and overall performance.

@Sexylegs:

Dude i get your point but then they released the patches all the way till now so they could have made all them 7 pathces to actualy fix the true problems in the game...

They could have responded on this forum at last a few times to clear some cobwebs and actualy show that they listen to theirs fans and cutomers

They could have had the decency to give us Halo 2 PC a year ago not make us feel left out and pissedthehelloff!

Emo attitude i`m sorry i can`t relate...i don`t slit my wrists nor get arroused when hearing songs about gettin dumped and all that jazz with the black makeup and black clothes.

  • 11.13.2005 2:24 AM PDT
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They could have had the decency to give us Halo 2 PC a year ago

Wow dude, Microsoft business, you gotta remember that.

  • 11.13.2005 5:22 AM PDT
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Okay, maybe I should restate - Bungie, I don't believe that they actually have much control over Halo PC.

I'm positive that Gearbox owns quite a few rights to it, since they ported it. There's always a contract between the developer and the porter, and the porting company gets a lot of ownership in the game, one thing of which is putting out patches and updating it. So, it's not Bungie, it's Gearbox. They -blam!- it up, they are supposed to fix it. If Bungie messed something up in Halo 2, would Microsoft come to their rescue and fix it? Hell no. That's not how corporations and businesses function. They're responsible for themselves.

That's why it's not entirely fair to just blame Bungie all of the time. They thought they'd get relieved by Gearbox for the port, and that they could rely on them to do it well. Unfortunately, they didn't do it well, but since they have certain rights over the game that Bungie doesn't, I don't think Bungie can do anything.

If you want to ask for improvements, spam Gearbox. Yes, Bungie could come here and read all of this, but what good could it do if they can't really do anything about it? Nothing, it would be a waste of time, so you don't see them doing that.

*The emo attitude was a bit of a joke, btw. Just saying, it's so, well, depressing in here...*

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  • 11.13.2005 11:28 AM PDT
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well that is were the halo 2 pc project comes in...
305imports.com/halo
there goal is to remake the halo 2 for the pc.
so fair is just a demo showing that is may be possible.

  • 11.13.2005 11:58 AM PDT
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That seems to be a big job. Are they ripping stuff or actually remaking it?

  • 11.13.2005 12:59 PM PDT
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I just want an official Bungie Halo 2 PC made dammit...

And at least a word or 2 sometimes...we at least disurve that

  • 11.13.2005 1:50 PM PDT
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Wow. Bungie doesn't even have to pass the buck. They got their consumer's doing that now.

  • 11.14.2005 7:30 AM PDT
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I agree with sexy legs davis. I think that it is Gearbox's fault but due to some wierd buisness relationship between gearbox microsoft and bungie none of them want to or can step in and do something.
The big problem is that we dont know all the facts. There could be some underlying reason for the poorness of Halo PC that has a logical explanation but who knows....

  • 11.14.2005 11:35 AM PDT

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