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Subject: Halo 2: The game that might have been (beta).

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Half-Minute Hero
MBU
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Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.


Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: JB 199
Thanks JacobGRocks, I forgot about these beta stuff. Now the question is, what caused them to remove these stuff in the final version of the game.

Probably time constraints. Just like how halo 2 had it's cliffhanger ending, they probably didn't have time to finish. Same with the mongoose. According to them, it was unfinished and unbalenced, so they left it out of Halo 2.
The mongoose was originally called something else can't rember and it had a gun on the back. The reason they didn't put most of the vechiles in was they were afraid no one would use the warthog they even said on an interview look at halo pedia cut content halo 2
In Halo 3 and Reach, they readded those features, to make up for their removal in 2.

Posted by: JacobGRocks

Posted by: JB 199
Thanks JacobGRocks, I forgot about these beta stuff. Now the question is, what caused them to remove these stuff in the final version of the game.

Probably time constraints. Just like how halo 2 had it's cliffhanger ending, they probably didn't have time to finish. Same with the mongoose. According to them, it was unfinished and unbalenced, so they left it out of Halo 2.

In Halo 3 and Reach, they readded those features, to make up for their removal in 2.

  • 01.01.2011 4:23 PM PDT

Games I like:,
Half-Minute Hero
MBU
Portal
Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.

Sorry about that last part I was on my iPod anyway just read the bit about the mongoose I wrote. Also sear halo 2 levels cut content. I'm sure you'll find it interesting

  • 01.01.2011 4:26 PM PDT

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BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

This thread deserves recognition.

  • 01.24.2011 5:41 AM PDT

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6/21/2011?

Thanks man. I will have not save this thread and give it a look at when I have a little more time to spare.

  • 01.24.2011 8:17 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Added new video.

Someone got a beta copy on a used debug box, and uploaded it to youtube.

[Edited on 01.29.2011 7:42 AM PST]

  • 01.29.2011 7:13 AM PDT

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The stuff Bungie couldn't finish because of Microsoft Game Studios.

  • 01.29.2011 11:31 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: SHOCKER1000
The stuff Bungie couldn't finish because of Microsoft Game Studios.

And the rushed release date.

There is a lot of stuff bungie didn't tell us, but thanks to the fact they made a signed private beta that runs on unmodded xboxes, some modders have it.

  • 01.29.2011 1:27 PM PDT

Well, I'm spending a great H2 weekend thanks to JacobGRocks. My grandson and one of his friends are watching the vids you posted one by one (lot of vids but worth it). I only wish you had numbered the vids so it would be easier to discuss individual vids.

1. E3 is always great but if we had played that level for 6 years and had been denied the released Metropolis, my view might be different today. I mean, if we were shown the Scarab scenes with the E3 cinematic qualities we might still be drooling. I just don't know. Also, it seemed the dual SMG's did not have much recoil.

So far this is one of the best threads I've ever seen.

  • 01.29.2011 7:23 PM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qSsXs-M2j8

This has pictures of things left out of all halo series. Thought it was pretty neat.

  • 01.29.2011 11:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cheeto666
This. There originally was no Halo 3. Halo 2 was going to have Halo 3 in it. But Microsoft wanted Halo 3 to be the launch game for the 360, so they told them to cut the game in half and ship what they had for Halo 2.
Posted by: Shock120
@ Halo 2 mourners.
You think Microsoft shutting down Halo 2 was bad?
Take a look at how Halo 2 should've been, until Microsoft stepped in with their Golden Shoes, demanding Bungie for a quick and rushed release.


Not true. Bungie had a strict deadline that they knew about almost from the start, the last holiday season (2004) for the Xbox. The next holiday season the 360 was coming out so why bother with a flagship game on an old console at that point. Simply put Bungie was a victim of their own success and became too ambitious with halo 2 so had to keep hacking away features to make the deadline. This is why textures seem to have a lot of pop in halo 2 because there wasn't much time to refine it. This is backed up by one of the many bungie docs, so don't go blaming MS. It has nothing to do with RAM either.

[Edited on 01.30.2011 12:51 AM PST]

  • 01.30.2011 12:47 AM PDT

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BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: Blizzard707
Not true. Bungie had a strict deadline that they knew about almost from the start, the last holiday season (2004) for the Xbox. The next holiday season the 360 was coming out so why bother with a flagship game on an old console at that point. Simply put Bungie was a victim of their own success and became too ambitious with halo 2 so had to keep hacking away features to make the deadline. This is why textures seem to have a lot of pop in halo 2 because there wasn't much time to refine it. This is backed up by one of the many bungie docs, so don't go blaming MS. It has nothing to do with RAM either.
ok, boring.

  • 01.30.2011 6:01 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

If they had canned the xbox 1 version, it would have been much better on the 360. Oh wait, they made an improved 360 version with scrapped matirel. It's called Halo 3!

  • 01.30.2011 6:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: JacobGRocks
Yeah, Hitboxing = fail. For example, a certan user from the maw who has never played Halo 2 Xbox online links to this halo 2 bash video (its much less exreme in acutial gameplay) which shows hitboxing, but it also exists in halo 3, which also has unbalanced weps and n00b armor (recon).


Posted by: JacobGRocks
Added new video.

Someone got a beta copy on a used debug box, and uploaded it to youtube.

Is it possible to find that beta?

  • 01.31.2011 10:07 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
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50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

If you are at an elitest forum long enough, and have an XDK, someone might send it to you. But they said it's not that great in countless posts.

If you want, you can find a copy of the MP beta, and dump it and upload it somewhere. Everyone at MS got it, so there are copies floating around.

This is what it looks like. It's unique, as it runs on a retail xbox, not a softmod or XDK (but you do need to mod it though to play offline)

Also, note the ring in the center, that proves it's legit.

[Edited on 02.01.2011 6:03 AM PST]

  • 02.01.2011 6:02 AM PDT
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Bear in mind all you critics Halo 2 was the best Halo and probably always will be. Halo Reach is a good improvement from Halo 3. Ive played Halo 2 so much Ive pretty much memorised every single dialog of the game, start to finish...
After seeing these video I dont have any regrets buying Halo 2, I like the way the game is. Also check out Halopedia apparently 3 levels were cut from the game as well as a number of species...
At least the music wasnt rushed...:)

  • 02.01.2011 6:15 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

They took the cuts, and made h3 out of them.

  • 02.01.2011 6:32 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Ah, look at this. A thread from Jacob when he actually gave a -blam!- about Halo 2.

Interesting.

This must of been a time when I actually had some respect for you.

Funny how things change so suddenly.

[Edited on 02.01.2011 9:29 PM PST]

  • 02.01.2011 9:24 PM PDT

Meh, I don't really care about all that stuff. I absolutely love Halo 2, and I'm not going to get sad over things that were cut and just because it could have been different. Every game gets great things cut from it anyway.

  • 02.02.2011 2:12 AM PDT

Posted by: Onyx_91
You jelly?

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I don't understand why people keep asking other people if they are a sugary substance used to spread on bagels and toast.

Thanks for the vids man.

  • 02.03.2011 5:32 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 2: The pre release thread.

Good videos man.

  • 02.03.2011 5:39 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 2: The game that might have been (beta).

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E3 2004 Halo 2 Zanzibar public demonstration gameplay footage. Please add this to the OP. Note the italicised fonts, Halo 1 announcer/sounds; indicating the Halo 1 engine.

Thanks for the links, OP.

I haven't been active in months. It's good to be back, anyway. How are you all doing?

  • 02.04.2011 9:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ghost Unknown
E3 2004 Halo 2 Zanzibar public demonstration gameplay footage. Please add this to the OP. Note the italicised fonts, Halo 1 announcer/sounds; indicating the Halo 1 engine.

Thanks for the links, OP.

I haven't been active in months. It's good to be back, anyway. How are you all doing?
I'm sorry, but, a game's engine shouldn't be indicated by it having the same announcer audio files, same fonts, and similar HUD. The Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 engines were completely different from the beginning.

  • 02.04.2011 11:03 AM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Dr Syx

Posted by: Ghost Unknown
E3 2004 Halo 2 Zanzibar public demonstration gameplay footage. Please add this to the OP. Note the italicised fonts, Halo 1 announcer/sounds; indicating the Halo 1 engine.

Thanks for the links, OP.

I haven't been active in months. It's good to be back, anyway. How are you all doing?
I'm sorry, but, a game's engine shouldn't be indicated by it having the same announcer audio files, same fonts, and similar HUD. The Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 engines were completely different from the beginning.

Truth is, it's a modified engine. You are being misled by someone. Halo uses the same engine game after game, just modified. Halo Reach ran on the h3 engine, and Halo 2 ran on the Halo 1 engine. They just added havok, that's all. They reused assets from h1 due to the same engine.

Also, I'm uploading the h2 video to my channel. It will be in the OP too.

  • 02.04.2011 12:33 PM PDT

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BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Truth is, it's a modified engine. You are being misled by someone. Halo uses the same engine game after game, just modified. Halo Reach ran on the h3 engine, and Halo 2 ran on the Halo 1 engine. They just added havok, that's all. They reused assets from h1 due to the same engine.

Also, I'm uploading the h2 video to my channel. It will be in the OP too.
This is true, Halo 2 was considered an update to Halo 1.

[Edited on 02.04.2011 12:35 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2011 12:34 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Shock120
Posted by: JacobGRocks
Truth is, it's a modified engine. You are being misled by someone. Halo uses the same engine game after game, just modified. Halo Reach ran on the h3 engine, and Halo 2 ran on the Halo 1 engine. They just added havok, that's all. They reused assets from h1 due to the same engine.

Also, I'm uploading the h2 video to my channel. It will be in the OP too.
This is true, Halo 2 was considered an update to Halo 1.

Which is pretty much what h2 was. A rehash with free auto aim, and bad online

Halo 2 was made worse in development by MLG kids (read: Walshy and friends), 5 yr olds, and lots of rushing. Rushing kills games.


[Edited on 02.04.2011 1:39 PM PST]

  • 02.04.2011 1:34 PM PDT