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Subject: Jun's faux ghillie.

GROSSMAN: Do you think of the Culture as a utopia? Would you live in it, if you could?

BANKS: Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.

KOTOR

Jun's "Ghillie suit" is just a comfort blanket. He cuddles it when the big aliens come.

  • 11.20.2010 1:56 AM PDT

Rule of Cool my friends. This more so applies to Emile and his choice of helmet... as well as his chosen altercations. But it still fits for Jun's choice of "equipment."

It is also safe to say that it's Bungies not so subtle attempt to easily associate the characters with their traditional archetype.

[Edited on 11.20.2010 3:10 AM PST]

  • 11.20.2010 3:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan2447
You should see Jun's original look which screamed sniper

I would have much prefered this!

  • 11.20.2010 3:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: griffball3
you're the kind of person that ruins halo for me....whats so wrong about having some extra, bad-ass looking netting? nothing, just deal with it or move to cod


You know, you're absolutely right! Whenever someone takes a dislike to a single small thing, they should get the -blam!- out our community and move to COD! That's a great solution!

Sigh...

  • 11.20.2010 3:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Jun's camo should have been like in the concept arts...

  • 11.20.2010 4:12 AM PDT

It's ironic how similar the bloom reaction is to the BR Spread reaction.

Also did sniper specialists forget about silencing equiptment 500 years into the future? That thing is loooouudd.

  • 11.20.2010 5:40 AM PDT

It's ironic how similar the bloom reaction is to the BR Spread reaction.


Posted by: Spartan2447
You should see Jun's original look which screamed sniper


That is amazing...!

  • 11.20.2010 5:42 AM PDT

I imagine if June were sitting on a hill looking down and all he needed to cover was his head then the hood on his armor would be enough but the full suit from the concept would have been cooler looking.

  • 11.20.2010 8:33 PM PDT

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I will dream of you." - The Didact

ThunderCurls

You try silencing an M82. Ain't gonna happen.

The SRS99 series sniper rifle has a larger caliber round than even an M82.

M82 = 12.7mm
SRS99 = 14.5mm

  • 11.20.2010 8:42 PM PDT

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Maybe the Covenant found the ghillie intimidating...or maybe the ghillie is associated with a Sniper, which in turn is intimidating and its mere presence makes the Covie troops fear.

  • 11.20.2010 9:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
What is the point of it? We've all seen, I'm sure, Jun's little fake ghillie hood on his chest plate. Why?

It won't keep him camouflaged - there's not enough to conceal his armour. It won't keep him warm - the MJOLNIR PAA will do that for him. It's not a hood - I doubt it'd fit over the MJOLNIR helmet, plus it would be pointless and limit the range of movement of his head. And serve neither of the two above points, which would be the only reason to use it as a hood.

All it does is drape over the back of his chest plate, and partially obscure the magnetic clip designed for rifle-sized weapons, and also the access panel for the fusion reactor.

It's as if Bungie felt that people wouldn't recognise him as a sniper without a ghillie suit that isn't even a ghillie. What, a Helmet entitled Scout, which has a 'Remote Sensor Package' upgrade (often described as a 'favourite of sniper units'), a sniper-rifle-round-carrying shoulder piece, and the big blam-off sniper rifle he carries wasn't enough to convince people of that?

It's just so horrendously pointless, I would love to know people's ideas for its existence. It serves no purpose whatsoever.
To me, it seems to have been put in so people could claim to be snipers because they had 'ghillie suits'. It's not even a suit, it's a shawl. That's ALL it is.


yeah, I thought the same thing when I first saw it. I don't like using that chest piece but I did until I got the breacher. It really doesn't serve a purpose, the designers probably just thought Halo's target audience would appreciate it. They know how to make their money all right.

  • 11.21.2010 12:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

Posted by: KylialielN0X
Maybe the Covenant found the ghillie intimidating...or maybe the ghillie is associated with a Sniper, which in turn is intimidating and its mere presence makes the Covie troops fear.
While I am generally afraid of things I shouldn't be able to see in the first place (ghosts), I don't think the same concept applies here.

  • 11.21.2010 12:28 AM PDT

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It's called scrim and it's a type of netting used to cover the head - the idea is that you're lying down or standing behind cover and only your shoulders and/or head are showing - srim is meant to be minimal to allow unaffected movement while creating effective camoflage.

[Edited on 11.21.2010 1:31 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2010 1:30 AM PDT

It's ironic how similar the bloom reaction is to the BR Spread reaction.


Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
ThunderCurls

You try silencing an M82. Ain't gonna happen.

The SRS99 series sniper rifle has a larger caliber round than even an M82.

M82 = 12.7mm
SRS99 = 14.5mm



It's 500 years into the future man, if that were a fact then it's just sad.

  • 11.21.2010 1:49 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

Posted by: ThunderCurls

Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
ThunderCurls

You try silencing an M82. Ain't gonna happen.

The SRS99 series sniper rifle has a larger caliber round than even an M82.

M82 = 12.7mm
SRS99 = 14.5mm



It's 500 years into the future man, if that were a fact then it's just sad.
You didn't see that picture of the artillery silencer going around the Flood a couple days ago, then did you?
Here it is.

The thing is, that's not meant to silence it, it's only meant to quieten it to comply with noise regulations.

If you scale that for a sniper rifle, the suppressor would still have to be huge - probably bigger than the body of the rifle itself.

  • 11.21.2010 3:46 AM PDT

It's ironic how similar the bloom reaction is to the BR Spread reaction.


Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
Posted by: ThunderCurls

Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
ThunderCurls

You try silencing an M82. Ain't gonna happen.

The SRS99 series sniper rifle has a larger caliber round than even an M82.

M82 = 12.7mm
SRS99 = 14.5mm



It's 500 years into the future man, if that were a fact then it's just sad.
You didn't see that picture of the artillery silencer going around the Flood a couple days ago, then did you?
Here it is.

The thing is, that's not meant to silence it, it's only meant to quieten it to comply with noise regulations.

If you scale that for a sniper rifle, the suppressor would still have to be huge - probably bigger than the body of the rifle itself.


you keep citing current military tech as examples...500 YEARS MAN!

  • 11.21.2010 4:35 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

Posted by: ThunderCurls

Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
Posted by: ThunderCurls

Posted by: GhostRyderCA941
ThunderCurls

You try silencing an M82. Ain't gonna happen.

The SRS99 series sniper rifle has a larger caliber round than even an M82.

M82 = 12.7mm
SRS99 = 14.5mm



It's 500 years into the future man, if that were a fact then it's just sad.
You didn't see that picture of the artillery silencer going around the Flood a couple days ago, then did you?
Here it is.

The thing is, that's not meant to silence it, it's only meant to quieten it to comply with noise regulations.

If you scale that for a sniper rifle, the suppressor would still have to be huge - probably bigger than the body of the rifle itself.


you keep citing current military tech as examples...500 YEARS MAN!
500 years of technological advancement will not bend the laws of wave physics to the point where we can make very small silencers.
However, 500 years of technological advancement might allow us to create a weapon with minimal noise from firing. Yet, that possibility was not explored with Halo.

  • 11.21.2010 4:42 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Are you bonkers? It hides Emile so well that I've spent hours just trying to find him on Nightfall.

  • 11.21.2010 5:46 AM PDT

"emile, what the hell, that helmet cost more than a freaking scorpion, and don't get me started on how messed up you depth perception is gonna get, you'll be trying to snipe grunts with a shotgun!"

"but it makes me look badass!"

same thing

just realized also, wouldn't it make his silhouette less obviously human? it would look much less regular and man made than simply a big blocky helmet

still no excuse for emile though :D

[Edited on 11.21.2010 6:38 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2010 6:35 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

Posted by: XBLDragon029


It's called scrim and it's a type of netting used to cover the head - the idea is that you're lying down or standing behind cover and only your shoulders and/or head are showing - srim is meant to be minimal to allow unaffected movement while creating effective camoflage.
You really did not need to triple-quote, underline and embolden the text - I would have noticed it regardless, I read all the replies to my threads.

Good find on this, Dragon.

  • 11.21.2010 7:08 AM PDT


Posted by: KylialielN0X
Maybe the Covenant found the ghillie intimidating...or maybe the ghillie is associated with a Sniper, which in turn is intimidating and its mere presence makes the Covie troops fear.


If you can see a sniper he's not doing his job right...

Ghillie is the farthest thing from intimidating anyway.

  • 11.21.2010 10:16 AM PDT

yoo•zel- ('yoo-zhul): slang: vb.

Officium quod Fidelitas.

Or it could be a keffiyeh which I believe is what some UNSC Troops are wearing in the game, would make sense since they are typically issued to units operating in harsh climates.

  • 11.21.2010 10:17 AM PDT


Posted by: Yoozel
Or it could be a keffiyeh which I believe is what some UNSC Troops are wearing in the game, would make sense since they are typically issued to units operating in harsh climates.


That makes more sense, but is still defeated by the fact that he is wearing self-regulating armor =\

  • 11.21.2010 10:19 AM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

Posted by: Yoozel
Or it could be a keffiyeh which I believe is what some UNSC Troops are wearing in the game, would make sense since they are typically issued to units operating in harsh climates.
Like I said, the MJOLNIR would do all the weather/climate filtering for him, he wouldn't need a keffiyeh for that, unless he's come over all fashion-conscious.

I'm going with Dragon's find, that it is likely a scrim.
However, I still maintain that the Concept Jun's helmet was far better than his current one.

  • 11.21.2010 10:29 AM PDT

yoo•zel- ('yoo-zhul): slang: vb.

Officium quod Fidelitas.

Aesthetics in a game are more pleasing then actually having to give them purpose. Why is Emile have tons of grenade launcher rounds yet only uses a shot gun?

  • 11.21.2010 10:38 AM PDT

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