- PLUT0NIUM 235
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- Honorable Member
the tonnage stated is rediculous, as i said earlier for numerous reasons there is no way in a million years the autumn is 100,000 tons or anywhere even remotely close to that, how can anyone seriously think that is the correct tonnage, its mind boggling! also a ship that large just can't feasibly land, it has no thrusters dedicated to atmospheric flight (disagree? where are they then?) the only possible way something like that could even contemplate landing would be butt first, landing with the main engines pointing planetside, but even then i doubt the engines could produce enough thrust to break orbit like that, the ship is simply too massive.
so if theres any reason to say that reach broke the halo universe, this is about the biggest reason to date. the autumn' mass is likely somewhere in the million ton range, no less than that i would say. also something that someone pointed out earlier has great relevance, the fact that the autumn was made in orbit of mars, orbit being the key factor which suggests the ship is too massive to launch from the surface, why else would one go to so much effort to build it in orbit, it was never ever intended to go in atmosphere. also the theory of anti-gravity is basically defunct for one reason, why would they use those 'detachable' rediculously small boosters when the autumn takes off if it had anti-gravity device of some sort? what would the purpose be?
to give you a 'small' example of what im trying to get across here, when the world trade centre was still there, you could stand both the north and south towers on-top of eachother, thats about three hundred metres shorter than the length of the autumn, think about that for a second to actually comprehend how big the ship was before stating anything, not to mention the autumn is like the height of the world trade centre in height as well, the trade centre had 110 floors, so how many decks i wonder does the autumn have? also may i note that the very very much hollow world trade centre (each tower) was estimated to weigh in at around 500,000 tons, supporting the idea that the autumn' mass is well in excess of a million tons.
[Edited on 11.26.2010 5:46 PM PST]