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Subject: Uh... Bungie.net/forums just made the Weekend Web.
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I think this is of community interest. [Somethingawful.com]


So...

(SA's Weekend Web feature mocks forums, in case you were wondering)

  • 11.13.2005 2:47 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/atticus/Group/GroupHome.aspx

So, these people hang out in forums... find the 'worst' section of them (the flood) and then the worst posts, add some snide comments.. and have the right to tell the world that the forum sucks..

Thats lame. Im not saying the Flood is the worst, but as far as a lot goes, it sorta is..

If they came to the septagon then they would most likely get a different experience... btw? Does this belong here? Its not exactly '7th column' .. Not sure though on this.

  • 11.13.2005 2:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nakki Kedem
Thats lame. Im not saying the Flood is the worst, but as far as a lot goes, it sorta is..

If they came to the septagon then they would most likely get a different experience...


Well, that's the point. That one corner (gaping abyss?) of the forums has gotten so bad; so vile, that it's being publicly mocked. This is definitely a community issue, and not something that can be left sliding.

  • 11.13.2005 3:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nakki Kedem
Does this belong here? Its not exactly '7th column' .. Not sure though on this.


Well I'm not too fond of it considering its just a cross post.

I'm glad someone came to the flodd to grip about it. Now the site has another fan. I put it on my favorites. I particularly like this one:

I love those YTMND things! They aren't getting played out or stupid AT ALL!


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  • 11.13.2005 3:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Lithium Tea
Well, that's the point. That one corner (gaping abyss?) of the forums has gotten so bad; so vile, that it's being publicly mocked. This is definitely a community issue, and not something that can be left sliding.


The Flood could benefit from more people "leading the way". I don't think some snobs rooting the users out and publicly humiliating them is any encouragement to improve the quality of posting. Lots of the spammers just live off the attention they're receiving, and if anything Something Awful's efforts will give them more. We've all got to pull our weight if we want anything to happen.

Lots complain about boredom, and often use that as an excuse for posting something off-topic. So, if something interesting comes along, it should be posted - a new, exciting internet game, for example. People enjoy this sort of thing, without anything to do during their online period, they're just going to try and entertain themselves in whatever manner possible. Granted, the problems aren't going to be solved thus - but they will at least be reduced. It's also helpful to keep out of some discussions. If a thread contains naught but spam, why not keep out of it, ignore it, report it to a mod, help it go away, instead of posting in it? This might seem like the basics of a "good forum member", but a number of us tend to forget.

I think we should all be doing our very best to keep the Flood from isolation. A while back there were regular Flood members participating in the Septagon, since then they have been shunned out. Whenever possible I try to include Flood details in the Week in Review. More things like that will help bridge the apparent rift between the two communities.

And it's not just the Flood. The Halo 2 forums seem to be without any real community, even though quality discussion can blossom. What really needs to stop is the mindset of "The Septagon is the community" - that's only as true as people want it to be. There was a Halo 2 community tournament recently, posted in the Septagon - and that's fine, it was a community event. But it wasn't so much as brought up in the Halo 2 forums, so members there knew nothing of it. I'm not criticising the way it was run, I'm picking on it because I think it's a great example of what we could do. Yes, posting a link in New Mombasa or Zanzibar would be cross-posting, but perhaps the moderators could make an exception with such a potentially good issue. Nobody should be entitled to break the rules, but not letting a large part of Halo 2 fans know of an upcoming Halo 2 event isn't right.

I could be wrong, maybe such interlacing of the various forums wouldn't work at all, but the more we can spread positive thought around, the better.

  • 11.13.2005 3:39 AM PDT
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From what I can see the halo 2 tournament went nowhere. Maybe I missed something. A couple matches went through. Plus it made the front page of Bungie. If that didn't come in front of every user of B.net then I don't know what will. Besides it was a chapter thing anyway.

There is still good stuff in the flood, but it is harder to find. The best way to make the good stuff easier to find is to stop replying to the other stuff.

I think that that page wasn't just talking about the flood either. Click on the fetal alcohol syndrome link and it sends you to the full list of forums.

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  • 11.13.2005 4:01 AM PDT
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From what I can see the halo 2 tournament went nowhere. Maybe I missed something. A couple matches went through. Plus it made the front page of Bungie. If that didn't come in front of every user of B.net then I don't know what will. Besides it was a chapter thing anyway.

Yeah, I used it as an example. Not everybody reads the front page, my point is things need to be made as easy for users to access as possible. Sad, but nonetheless, quite true.

  • 11.13.2005 4:11 AM PDT
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I guess it is hard to arrange things like that over the internet. I have a lot of fun playing with the flood crowd on xbox live. I think it is more fun to play with people on the forums in a less organized way. It was really hard for me to organize the Mathematics chapter to find a common date. I never realized how spread out throughout the world the Bungie.net community is. People in all time zones make things difficult. When we finally came up with a time, I sent the time to the contact in the other thing and never heard back. Then one of the tournament guys told us we were passed on by default and he was going to get back with us about our next opponent. No luck.

Anyway, I read through some of that site. In the same article as the one that it talks about the Bungie.net forums it talks about a forum that believes that a divine wolf spirit lives within them. I found the same hint of elitism that I hear people complaining about around here. Check it out I thought this was pretty funny. I think it just points to things that all forums go through. Why is the word mjolnir in the url though?

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  • 11.13.2005 4:39 AM PDT
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I dont see what all the fuss is about. The SA site is all about Humor, they are not personally mocking you or anyone else, and you have to admit, the things they posted are a bit extreme. In my eyes it's nothing really to worry about, it happens in all Forums, even theres. If they think the Bungie Forums are "Bad" then I warn them to never visit PennyArcade or the G4 Forums, as it will seem they have fallen into hell.

My suggestion is to not take this so personal and to see the humor behind it. If you really do want to do something about it, and "fix it", take Psyched's advice and try to bridge the gap between the Forums and bring back the Community. Talking about change is one thing, actually going throuhg it is a totally different thing.

I'm new, I know this, but I after seeing multiple posts, all about what someone thinks is wrong with the Community and/or how they see it being fixed, I have only one thing to say: Quit talking about what needs to be done and just do it! Dont make a post about it, dont Cry that others need to do this and that to fix the community, just do it yourself. Others will follow suit I promise.

  • 11.13.2005 5:44 AM PDT
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the only forum i participate is in teh flood lol

  • 11.13.2005 5:47 AM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

I think that was targeted at the entire site.

They said bungie, not the flood.

  • 11.13.2005 5:57 AM PDT
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lol they made fun of us pretty bad......

we shall commite hate threads against them!

  • 11.13.2005 5:57 AM PDT
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Ha, ha, that obbi one made me laugh. Err, yeah, thats...umm, just terrable...uh, screw them. Yeah!

  • 11.13.2005 9:28 AM PDT
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That was stupid. You can't publicly mock an entire site for just one forum gone afoul. Yes, there are many stupid threads on bnet. But you can't say it sucks because of that.

  • 11.13.2005 9:45 AM PDT
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Read about the Forgotten Spartan I Program
Butane: To protect the world from devastation!
sir_brilliant: To unite all people within our nation!
Rainman89: To denounce the evils of truth and love!
sir_brilliant: To extend out reach to the stars above!
SpaceGhostFlyer: Jessie!
Butane: James!
sir_brilliant: Team Rocket blasting off at the speed of light
Butane: Surrender now or prepare to fight
sir_brilliant: Meowth, that's right!

*lights torch, grabs pitchfork* I am gonna have a talk w/our friends at "somethingawful"

  • 11.13.2005 9:57 AM PDT
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The entire community suffers from fetal alcohol syndrome? What morons, have they got nothing better to do? I bet they planned this months in advance and the users are probably made by them too :D

Let me see: "hey guys, halo is a popular video game, how can we get massive publicity off this?" Why didn't they quote anything from the Septagon?

  • 11.13.2005 11:34 AM PDT
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Read about the Forgotten Spartan I Program
Butane: To protect the world from devastation!
sir_brilliant: To unite all people within our nation!
Rainman89: To denounce the evils of truth and love!
sir_brilliant: To extend out reach to the stars above!
SpaceGhostFlyer: Jessie!
Butane: James!
sir_brilliant: Team Rocket blasting off at the speed of light
Butane: Surrender now or prepare to fight
sir_brilliant: Meowth, that's right!

did you notice some of the font was smaller than others? i think they were doctored photos

  • 11.13.2005 11:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rainman89
did you notice some of the font was smaller than others? i think they were doctored photos


I think they were using different people to take little snapshots of the forum, and thus the font was different.

  • 11.13.2005 12:01 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/atticus/Group/GroupHome.aspx

Hold Ctrl and slid your middle mouse button. The scrollin one... there ya go. That makes your font change sizes. They did use multiple people to do it, so the one or two guys that love the small font is what you saw..

  • 11.13.2005 12:12 PM PDT
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Read about the Forgotten Spartan I Program
Butane: To protect the world from devastation!
sir_brilliant: To unite all people within our nation!
Rainman89: To denounce the evils of truth and love!
sir_brilliant: To extend out reach to the stars above!
SpaceGhostFlyer: Jessie!
Butane: James!
sir_brilliant: Team Rocket blasting off at the speed of light
Butane: Surrender now or prepare to fight
sir_brilliant: Meowth, that's right!


Thanks, i never knew that

  • 11.13.2005 12:20 PM PDT
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They picked an awful time to asses us mind. The underground, usually the most civilised place on the forums is flooded with halo 3 and halo movie posts from people kicked out of the pits of depravity known as new mombasa and zanzibar by the mods for posting in the wrong place and the septagon is seeing an increased number of visitors from the flood for some reason recently.

  • 11.13.2005 12:32 PM PDT
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You know, they can get sued for misinformation. That website of coarse.

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  • 11.13.2005 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloFighter92
You know, they can get sued for misinformation. That website of coarse.

Send him an email -blam!-ing about it. its always funny to read after.

-Hah, obbi's reply on the last page is priceless

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  • 11.13.2005 1:58 PM PDT

Posted by: HaloFighter92
You know, they can get sued for misinformation. That website of coarse.


Misinformation? Are you being sarcastic?

I just looked at The Flood. Thus is the first post I saw:
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=5349494

There's some great discussion that goes on in the community, and that's what I stay here for, but there is also junk like that floating around that I honestly don't like being there. There's not really anything we can do about it, either. Most of the time they don't break rules technically.

  • 11.13.2005 2:02 PM PDT

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