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Subject: Should the remake of Halo CE have the BR/DMR?

Br with no bloom.

  • 11.30.2010 1:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Seven Gorillas
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Its a remake. Just put the Halo CE PC content, and update the engine. Nothing else. It was not perfect, but sure as hell fun.


I understand if Halo CE remake is just an exact remake with better graphics and a few tweaks, just for the anniversary, but if they want to make a better game, new weapons are needed.


Sigh.

The point is that they don't want to make a better game because they don't need to make a better game. It's amazing as is.

There's no point in arguing this because if they remake it, neither the BR nor the DMR will be included.

  • 11.30.2010 1:10 PM PDT
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  • 11.30.2010 1:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: The 13th Arbiter



1. Very mature. Also your well-written rebuttal of my points was excellent. Oh wait...
2. Were this Battlefield or another class-based game, I would full heartedly agree that both sides need similar weapons. However, Halo is not a class based game, it is an arcade shooter. It's strength is in simplicty, not in layers upon layers of redundant weaponry. [/quote]

Extra weapons are needed. You wouldn't know because you have a low skill, so therefore you don't know what would be good to be added to get skill. Please don't argue with me unless you're better.[/quote]

Excellent rebuttal sir. Your evidence is incontrovertible. Oh wait, you've got none. You lack the ability to construct a convincing argument beyond "I say you're bad and I'm good." Child, if you had any idea what skill meant, you'd know that I'm right when I say that extra weapons are useless in the CE sandbox. Or just stop by the MLG forums when they're done being overhauled and post your "improvements".



And you have absolutley no evidence saying that extra weapons is bad. Atleast, not any evidence anyone on this forum would agree with.

  • 11.30.2010 1:11 PM PDT

If they remake Halo CE, they should only use Halo CE weapons - that is, Reach's Pistol, AR, Shotgun, Sniper, Rockets, Plasma Rifle, Plasma Pistol, and Needler (with tweaks to damage and clip size, of course).

Adding a DMR or BR to a CE remake would be like removing Armor Lock in Reach: too rewarding to narrow-minded forum -blam!-es.

  • 11.30.2010 1:11 PM PDT

Truth is my ammo.

Posted by: xUNCxLEGENDARYx
If they remake Halo CE, they should only use Halo CE weapons - that is, Reach's Pistol, AR, Shotgun, Sniper, Rockets, Plasma Rifle, Plasma Pistol, and Needler (with tweaks to damage and clip size, of course).

Adding a DMR or BR to a CE remake would be like removing Armor Lock in Reach: too rewarding to narrow-minded forum -blam!-es.


You just compared Armor Lock to BR/DMR. That's uncomparable. AL is for noobs, BR/DMR is useful in teh hands of a pro.

  • 11.30.2010 1:13 PM PDT
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Halo 3 is for noobs. Gg NoRe.

3SK pistol.

Don't kid yourself and lessen your expectations like you have done in Halo 3 and Reach. You bad kids won't get your crappy BR or DMR.

Pistol > All.

So stfu. And quit arguing.

  • 11.30.2010 1:14 PM PDT

Truth is my ammo.

Posted by: SiKe X
3SK pistol.

Don't kid yourself and lessen your expectations like you have done in Halo 3 and Reach. You bad kids won't get your crappy BR or DMR.

Pistol > All.

So stfu. And quit arguing.


LOL kk you're a bad kid too since you're so obsessed with teh pistol. BR takes more skill than pistol IMO.

Your opinion is too narrow so you're a noob.

  • 11.30.2010 1:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Astartes Marine
I've played Halo CE on the PC, where I've downloaded some custom missions that were longer with more engagements, etc.

The biggest thing with them was, the expanded arsenal. It basically brought Halo 3's arsenal to CE including characters. It was kinda neat to play against Brutes and Elites on the first ring and the Pillar of Autumn.

Here's a vid

So...as long as it was professionally done, and weapons were added and not removed (GOD HELP YOU IF THE MA5B IS GONE) and in use by AI as well as the player I'd have no objections.

Ha-ha! That's so much fun to play.

Really, if they keep all the content of Halo:CE PC version with forge and theater, then I will be very happy. But if they took ideas from the custom campaign, then heck, I won't mind as long at the gameplay doesn't change. That's what's golden about Halo 1.

  • 11.30.2010 1:23 PM PDT

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Don't fix something that isn't broken.

  • 11.30.2010 1:24 PM PDT

Halo is one of the most important part of my life.

Only the BR couse cannon

  • 11.30.2010 1:26 PM PDT

I don't care if it is in multiplayer, hell put every single weapon from the series in multiplayer, variety can't be bad. I just don't want the campaign to have things that weren't in the original.

  • 11.30.2010 1:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seven Gorillas
LOL kk you're a bad kid too since you're so obsessed with teh pistol. BR takes more skill than pistol IMO.

Your opinion is too narrow so you're a noob.


Woah there. The BR has insane amounts of bullet magnetism, the CE pistol has the least of any "utility" weapon of the Halo franchise. It may have auto aim, but it does not have bullets curve like it's the move Wanted, wish I could say the same for the BR. In fact, you're more likely to get a 4-shot with the BR than a 3-shot with the pistol any day.

  • 11.30.2010 1:31 PM PDT
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People are complaining the pistol kills too fast?

The average shots taken to kill with that thing is 5-6 shots, which is only one less that the DMR's average 6-7. And that was the beauty of Halo CE: a large discrepancy between the fastest kill time and the average kill time.

And if a remake were to happen, the speed does need to stay the same. Halo's sequels have steadily become slower and slower that there are now games than don't even reach up to 50. It's the reason why the series is dying.

Of course, part of the change was because of the transition to XBL play, but that was fine back when internet wasn't as good as it is today. Nowadays internet connections can easily handle the non-hitscan bullets that's part of the magic of CE.

None of the mechanics need to change. Things can be added, however, as long as those things are optional and still allow people the full ability to play the remake exactly like the original.

  • 11.30.2010 1:35 PM PDT
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  • 11.30.2010 1:37 PM PDT

iF there were to be a remake of CE I hope they keep it as it was.

No gameplay or weapon tweaks.

Apart from adding live multiplayer of course...

....and a graphics upgrade would be ok.

(I would have been happy if they simply added achievements to the xbox original version.)

Though Halo CE over Live wouldn't have the same magic as before, it would get lost in the myriad of XBL MP games. I think a lot of the magic was in organizing those massive LAN nights and having all your mates in the one place.

TLDR Halo CE was perfect as is, just add Live MP

  • 11.30.2010 1:39 PM PDT

...and no. A remake of Halo:CE should not have a BR/DMR

  • 11.30.2010 1:40 PM PDT
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No let's try to keep that Halo CE feeling shall we.

  • 11.30.2010 1:41 PM PDT
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Wise men talk because they have something to say, fools because they have to say something.

If Halo CE came out with absolutely no change, halo 2 matchmaking (with leveling), forge, and save films I would buy it tomorrow for $60 no questions asked. End of story.

However, since I have to suggest some changes so I don't get yelled at by this thread's author I would suggest:

1) 3 pistol shots to pop shields (otherwise damage is the same)

2) Lower the freezing effect on the plasma rifle, it currently has its way with the AR

3) New maps

4) Improved graphics

5) 4 player system link and live co-op

6) Fix that thing that happens with rockets where it fires sideways if you turn too fast

7) Improve the sniper rifle's melee (try assassinating someone who's strafing and has a high death bonus with that thing, it's ridiculous)

That's about all I can think of. If vehicle physics were changed to what they are in any other halo game I would be super upset. Vehicle physics have been one of my number one concerns with the evolution of the halo franchise, but it's not one that has been shared by many. I liked splattering people with the tap of a wheel and would totally give up the ability to board for its return.

To answer the original question I would say no. Even if there were other changes.

[Edited on 11.30.2010 2:03 PM PST]

  • 11.30.2010 2:00 PM PDT

If they are going to remake CE, they better leave everything the same other than updated gaffics and the addition of MM.

  • 11.30.2010 2:04 PM PDT

From a "realsim" standpoint, there is no way a pistol should be as powerful and accurate as the magnum was in Halo: CE. A pistol is not supposed to be a main weapon. Its a backup to be used when you are out of all other options, the magum in CE was way too powerful to be an accurate representation of a sidearm. I would love to see the DMR included if they ever remake CE.

  • 11.30.2010 2:09 PM PDT

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  • 11.30.2010 2:09 PM PDT

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no, keep it as original as possible.

  • 11.30.2010 2:09 PM PDT

Evaluate & then re-evaluate.


Posted by: ajn0592
No. If Halo CE were remade, i want only the weapons that were in the original. I want it to be the exact same game with better graphics and matchmaking.

  • 11.30.2010 2:10 PM PDT

Let grunts Sleep!!!

Haha, if it's remade, it's remade. There was no BR in Halo CE. Have you played it?

  • 11.30.2010 2:10 PM PDT