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Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine vs Spartan

Poll: Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine vs Spartan  [closed]
Spartan:  52%
(14 Votes)
Space Marine:  48%
(13 Votes)
Total Votes: 27

Who would win? I think it would be the Space Marine, no doubt about it. Why? Sure, the Spartan may have energy shields and fancy crap like that, but that pales in comparison to the Space Marine. First of all, his training is way better. He has known combat for all of his life, he was bred to kill. Not since he was five, but the ability to fight was programed into his mind before he was created. Second, weapons. The weapons of the UNSC would do next to nothing to a Space Marine, with the exception of a Rocket Launcher or a Sniper, and even then he may live through it. But what weapons does the Space Marine have, you may ask? Why, only a .50 caliber Bolt Rifle with armor peircing bolts that explode when they get inside your body that he can hold like a pistol if he wanted, a 1.00 caliber Heavy Bolter that was built to blow up tanks, an 8 foot long chainsaw sword that can cut through a tank, and an 8 foot long power sword that can do the same thing. In fact, one Space Marine could probably kill all of Noble Team. So yeah, my vote goes to the Space Marine.

Also, for reference...

Primary weapons: .50 caliber Armor-Peircing Explosive Bolt Rifle vs. MA5C 7.62x51mm NATO
Winner, Marine

Secondary: .45 Bolt Pistol w/ Armor Piercing Explosive Bolts vs. 12.7x40mm Pistol w/ Semi Armor-Peircing rounds
Winner, Marine

Melee: Chainsaw sword that can cut through a tank vs. 32-centimeter combat knife
Winner, Marine

Armor: Great Power Armor that can withstand a direct hit from a Tau energy weapon vs. Power Armor w/ Shields
Tie, maybe.

Training: Bred for war and a history of 10,000 years of nothing but war vs. Kidnapped and trained at age of 5.
Winner, Marine.

  • 12.01.2010 10:08 PM PDT
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didn't you post this same thread on the flood?

  • 12.01.2010 10:10 PM PDT


Posted by: XX7Y
didn't you post this same thread on the flood?

Yeah, but no one pays attention to me there :(

  • 12.01.2010 10:11 PM PDT

No wonder the marine wins. Everything in that universe is just mind boggling rediculous.

  • 12.01.2010 10:12 PM PDT


Posted by: Sniffy66
No wonder the marine wins. Everything in that universe is just mind boggling rediculous.

To be fair, they do exist in the year 40,999. In fact, their version of hyperspace (The Warp) wasn't discovered until the year 3000. Halo could technically be a part of Warhammer 40,000 and not even break the canon of either.

  • 12.01.2010 10:15 PM PDT

Flood's and Universe's Warhammer 40k fanatic and the one who knows much about it.

I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.

Spartan would win, due the fact that nobody here knows whats space marine in these forums.

Otherwise, SM would win. They can, what? Absord memories, have extremely powerful weaponry and protecting armor, and sometimes shields. Also, they can spit acid, have secondary heart...

It seems, that almost no weapon thats not heavy weapon from halo would be able to kill SM without consencrated fire. Even HW would take some time.

And bolter would simply easily bash Spartan. It fires after all small bullet size rockets, that impact when hitting other. If spartans shields go down, then the bullets will get stuck inside his body and he would explode from inside. Thats what bolter does.

  • 12.01.2010 10:26 PM PDT


Posted by: teekuppi
Spartan would win, due the fact that nobody here knows whats space marine in these forums.

Otherwise, SM would win. They can, what? Absord memories, have extremely powerful weaponry and protecting armor, and sometimes shields. Also, they can spit acid, have secondary heart...

It seems, that almost no weapon thats not heavy weapon from halo would be able to kill SM without consencrated fire. Even HW would take some time.

And bolter would simply easily bash Spartan. It fires after all small bullet size rockets, that impact when hitting other. If spartans shields go down, then the bullets will get stuck inside his body and he would explode from inside. Thats what bolter does.

They can't spit acid. I don't think they can absorb memories either. But yeah, like I said, absolutely no chance of a spartan victory, their weapons are just too powerful.

  • 12.02.2010 3:45 PM PDT

I enjoy halo for it's story and when I am in the mood, its gameplay. Reach was significantly worse then I expected but was still a great game (minus the european hitscan fiasco). I am sitting on a two mile wide fence on the subject of halo 4. Most of the things I like a technical aspects though and not story or game play. Plus I am slightly mad they took my elites from MP.

seriously no contest, one chapter of space marines (1,000 - 10,000 marines) could effectivly obliterate the UNSC (think halo 3's first mission). The only thing in the halo universe a chapter of space marines could not beat is the Covenent glassing them.

P.S. what period of Imperial history are you referring to pre-horous heresy or post-horous heresy. Either period has different organising:

pre-horous heresy

large chapter 10,000 marines
small chapter 3-5,000 marines
smallest chapter 1,000 marines
combat mission 500 marines

post-horous heresy

large chapter 2,000 marines
small chapter 500 marines
smallest chapter 100 marines
combat mission 50-100 marines

please note pre-horous heresy marines are greater in number as well as more effective, so no comments on how post horous heresy marines need less troops to do the same mission there are simply much, much less of them

  • 12.02.2010 3:50 PM PDT
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40k is the softest Sci-Fi series this side of Gurren Lagann. It's tropes exist as GRIMDARK parodies of the military sci-fi genre. As such, its soldiers are hardly bound by constraints like "reality" or "suspension of disbelief" that plague series such as Halo, Aliens, and the like.

Yeah, 40k wins out on most one-to-one fights.

  • 12.02.2010 4:03 PM PDT


Posted by: trojanlord95
seriously no contest, one chapter of space marines (1,000 - 10,000 marines) could effectivly obliterate the UNSC (think halo 3's first mission). The only thing in the halo universe a chapter of space marines could not beat is the Covenent glassing them.

P.S. what period of Imperial history are you referring to pre-horous heresy or post-horous heresy. Either period has different organising:

pre-horous heresy

large chapter 10,000 marines
small chapter 3-5,000 marines
smallest chapter 1,000 marines
combat mission 500 marines

post-horous heresy

large chapter 2,000 marines
small chapter 500 marines
smallest chapter 100 marines
combat mission 50-100 marines

please note pre-horous heresy marines are greater in number as well as more effective, so no comments on how post horous heresy marines need less troops to do the same mission there are simply much, much less of them

Post heresy. And I'm just pitting one Marine against one Spartan, not an entire chapter against an entire platoon.

  • 12.02.2010 4:17 PM PDT


Posted by: trojanlord95
seriously no contest, one chapter of space marines (1,000 - 10,000 marines) could effectivly obliterate the UNSC (think halo 3's first mission). The only thing in the halo universe a chapter of space marines could not beat is the Covenent glassing them.

P.S. what period of Imperial history are you referring to pre-horous heresy or post-horous heresy. Either period has different organising:

pre-horous heresy

large chapter 10,000 marines
small chapter 3-5,000 marines
smallest chapter 1,000 marines
combat mission 500 marines

post-horous heresy

large chapter 2,000 marines
small chapter 500 marines
smallest chapter 100 marines
combat mission 50-100 marines

please note pre-horous heresy marines are greater in number as well as more effective, so no comments on how post horous heresy marines need less troops to do the same mission there are simply much, much less of them


I take this to mean the better war would be between 40K and the Forerunners? (whose combat skins for the common soldier were 6 times as powerful as the Master Chief's)

  • 12.02.2010 4:17 PM PDT

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Judging that Warhammer 40k literally is Warhammer but set in space I can't take it seriously.

  • 12.02.2010 4:18 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: trojanlord95
seriously no contest, one chapter of space marines (1,000 - 10,000 marines) could effectivly obliterate the UNSC (think halo 3's first mission). The only thing in the halo universe a chapter of space marines could not beat is the Covenent glassing them.

P.S. what period of Imperial history are you referring to pre-horous heresy or post-horous heresy. Either period has different organising:

pre-horous heresy

large chapter 10,000 marines
small chapter 3-5,000 marines
smallest chapter 1,000 marines
combat mission 500 marines

post-horous heresy

large chapter 2,000 marines
small chapter 500 marines
smallest chapter 100 marines
combat mission 50-100 marines

please note pre-horous heresy marines are greater in number as well as more effective, so no comments on how post horous heresy marines need less troops to do the same mission there are simply much, much less of them


I take this to mean the better war would be between 40K and the Forerunners? (whose combat skins for the common soldier were 6 times as powerful as the Master Chief's)

Probably. Still, the Space Marine would win. His armor is nearly indestructible and his weapons are capable of destroying vehicles.

  • 12.02.2010 4:21 PM PDT
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I just play for fun. MLG can kiss my ass.

I think it would be a pretty close match between the SM and the Spartans, since Spartans are faster and they use ANY weapons they find, even the thunder hammer.

  • 12.02.2010 4:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Scoopicus

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: trojanlord95
seriously no contest, one chapter of space marines (1,000 - 10,000 marines) could effectivly obliterate the UNSC (think halo 3's first mission). The only thing in the halo universe a chapter of space marines could not beat is the Covenent glassing them.

P.S. what period of Imperial history are you referring to pre-horous heresy or post-horous heresy. Either period has different organising:

pre-horous heresy

large chapter 10,000 marines
small chapter 3-5,000 marines
smallest chapter 1,000 marines
combat mission 500 marines

post-horous heresy

large chapter 2,000 marines
small chapter 500 marines
smallest chapter 100 marines
combat mission 50-100 marines

please note pre-horous heresy marines are greater in number as well as more effective, so no comments on how post horous heresy marines need less troops to do the same mission there are simply much, much less of them


I take this to mean the better war would be between 40K and the Forerunners? (whose combat skins for the common soldier were 6 times as powerful as the Master Chief's)

Probably. Still, the Space Marine would win. His armor is nearly indestructible and his weapons are capable of destroying vehicles.


lulz *looks at Halo Reach sniper rifle*

Yeah, but in all seriousness, it seems Halo has a good range of technological races.

UNSC=weakest, still using projectile weapons, save for a few advanced ones (with ship weapons being impressive in its own right)

Covenant=better, with energy shielding, energy weapons and more grounded in the fiction part of Sci-Fi

Forerunners=incredible, with the ability to turn stars into stellar grenades, combat suits that crush MJOLNIR in every imaginable way (and are mass produced for the common soldier. Considering the 6X the awesome for the Forerunner suits, I can see a suited Forerunner litarally running through a tank coming out the other side unhurt, but that's just assumption).

Flood=unstoppable super-parasite that uses its enemy's own technology against them, ensuring its victory every time. (that and it can go airborn)

Precursors=mega race most likely at the area of divinity, rivaled only by Q from Star Trek.

There's a rival for everyone in Halo it seems. I'd rather see a Forerunner Marine fighting a Space Marine then a Spartan.

  • 12.02.2010 4:30 PM PDT

Is this a joke or something?
Of course Space Marine, there's no contest here...

My friend who's a huge 40k fan told me once he read in one codex that a fully armored Space Marine fell into a star and lived and seeing how overpowered things are there I wouldn't be suprised if that's true...

[Edited on 12.02.2010 4:36 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2010 4:36 PM PDT

Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob
40k is the softest Sci-Fi series this side of Gurren Lagann. It's tropes exist as GRIMDARK parodies of the military sci-fi genre. As such, its soldiers are hardly bound by constraints like "reality" or "suspension of disbelief" that plague series such as Halo, Aliens, and the like.

Yeah, 40k wins out on most one-to-one fights.

  • 12.02.2010 4:39 PM PDT

I enjoy halo for it's story and when I am in the mood, its gameplay. Reach was significantly worse then I expected but was still a great game (minus the european hitscan fiasco). I am sitting on a two mile wide fence on the subject of halo 4. Most of the things I like a technical aspects though and not story or game play. Plus I am slightly mad they took my elites from MP.

personally I think the best match would be pre-horous heresy Imperium vs flood but post-horous heresy would be acceptable

here are my reasons:

1) SM are trained to fight demons (not MC) that spread desease and pestulance, hello flood

2) SM have practicly no tech to speak of (post-heresy) and any that they do would explode if anything tampered with it (age)

3) flood could and most likely do exist inside the warp, somewhere

4) virtually impossible to infect a SM but combat forms could still exist (infantry e.g. cadian and vostran first born)

5) MS need:
one shot to kill all combat forms
two/three shots to kill a pure form
three/four hits to kill a deleted juggarnaut

[Edited on 12.02.2010 4:47 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2010 4:43 PM PDT

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Them=10,000 years

Spartans=Somewhere MUCH LESS.

-_-

OBVIOUS.

  • 12.02.2010 4:45 PM PDT

I enjoy halo for it's story and when I am in the mood, its gameplay. Reach was significantly worse then I expected but was still a great game (minus the european hitscan fiasco). I am sitting on a two mile wide fence on the subject of halo 4. Most of the things I like a technical aspects though and not story or game play. Plus I am slightly mad they took my elites from MP.

@Vercetti24 that was a primarch, like horous, I know wich one your on about his name was agron (or angron) and that was his punishment for siding with horous during the horous heresy, he was launched inside a star untill the 'end times' when it was said horous (though dead) would free him and begin again the Imperial civil war

  • 12.02.2010 4:53 PM PDT

Posted by: trojanlord95
@Vercetti24 that was a primarch, like horous, I know wich one your on about his name was agron (or angron) and that was his punishment for siding with horous during the horous heresy, he was launched inside a star untill the 'end times' when it was said horous (though dead) would free him and begin again the Imperial civil war

Thanks!
Now I want to install giant rockets on Propeht's chairs and launch the into stars for the lolz... xD

  • 12.02.2010 5:06 PM PDT