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Subject: Predator vs. Sangheili
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I get the feeling that the Sanghelli and the Predators might be like the Jackals and Skirmishers.

  • 12.02.2010 3:16 PM PDT

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Predator...

  • 12.02.2010 3:35 PM PDT

You can find me lurking the flood. Bring snacks.

Elites hands down.

  • 12.02.2010 5:00 PM PDT

"Only the Fallen are Heroes, while the ones who still stand are villains"

I'm a fan of both. With the Sangheili though they are more foreboding then the Yautja. Being nearly 9' tall having massive muscle structure. Sangheili and Yautja follow very very stubborn traditions though. So either way they could fall because of their "rules" of combat. Such as for the Sangheili being based on the Samurai. When a Sangheili warrior's blood is spilled they do not heal the wound. Their blood is their honor and to heal a wound is sacrilegious to them.
While the Yautja does heal itself. The Sangheili are like gods in hand to hand combat. When giving an energy sword most of the time not even a spartan can survive.
The Yautja's armor is more ceremonial as others have stated (somewhat like the arbiter's) So if a sangheili can get a few stabs on a Yautja they are very fatal. While if a Yautja hits a Sangheili their armor can take a few hits and can recharge.
Sangheili camouflage is also more advanced. Given the right training if put in a fight against a helmetless Yautja. The Yautja wouldn't be able to even see the light reflection off the sangheili. As well Sangheili camouflage isn't damaged by water.

And of course the topic of space battles is easily won by Sangheili. Seeing as their Naval battle skills are amazing. (Taking on 3 times their size of a fleet and easily wasting them)

  • 12.02.2010 5:28 PM PDT

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# The head is less thoroughly shrunk and tends to exude a certain amount of oil
# The lips show no sign of perforation which results from the "chonta-wood" pins used by the Shuar during the preparation, as well as the lips are sewn with light threads instead of a heavy cotton string
# The top of the head is not pierced for the suspending cord
# The facial hair has not been singed off, or the skin polished

Now the difference between a Predator and an Elite? One side has more support in the Bungie forums, that's it.

  • 12.02.2010 5:54 PM PDT

Sig, not us.

:)

[Edited on 12.03.2010 8:15 AM PST]

  • 12.02.2010 6:19 PM PDT

People seem to be backing the Sangheili with Covenant technology. If we had Covvie stuff, I guess the Predators get to use their spaceships and bomb the Sangheili

  • 12.02.2010 6:23 PM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Elites.

They are bred for war, the Predators for hunting.

Elites have energy shields, Pred does not.

Elites have the sword, the Pred has some pretty gnarly knives, but they are shorter and can be cut right off by the Elite.

Plus Elites are naturally equal to Spartans, and standard humans can go hand to hand with a Pred, the Chief damn near lost to an Elite in FoR.

I think its pretty obvious who'd win.


What is FoR?


Fall of Reach

  • 12.02.2010 7:08 PM PDT

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  • 12.02.2010 8:21 PM PDT

Predator? No fight.
Unless the Elites have super ninja-leetness.

  • 12.02.2010 8:59 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.


Posted by: Gruntpocalypto
I say Pred.

Predator:
The shoulder-mounted plasma launcher is like a mini-wraith turret

Thy have spears and, obviously, their claws/knives. (I'm not sure how the spear works or if it is just a regular throwing lance)

Their helmets have multiple vision modes as stated before (Alien, Thermal, Electric, White Light etc.)

Their armor is more ceremonial than protecting, I believe.

They also have near perfect Active Camouflage

Sangheili:

Have plasma weapons and energy swords too, but only under the Covenant's power (I don't know what Sangheili weapons were like before being inducted into the Covenant)

The Sangheili Armor is also supplied by the Covenant, along with the armor abilities, vehicles, and their command powers.

Sangheili are natural predators like the Predator species, and are on par with the SPARTANs.


I am pretty sure that the Predator would win. Minus the Covenant, the Sangheili aren't as strong or tech savvy. While regular humans can indeed kill a Predator, their sneaky nature greatly helps them. Arnold was able to kill one, but it gave up a good fight and he had to hide from it and mask his heat signature, ergo, outsmart its technology.

I am going to assume that the Sangheili hadn't discovered plasma weapons before they Covenant found them. So that makes the Sangheili a fairly modern race, with guns and explosives, like the humans from the original Predator movie.

The Predator already has it's own cloaking, plasma caster, and close quarters weapons. The Sangheili are also quite large, making them somewhat easy to spot, even in an open setting like a forest or in overcast skies. The Pred will sneak up on them, kill them with the knives, take their head, and go back into cloaking before it can be shot at. Then it will repeat until it kills the satisfactory amount of 10-point Sangheili.

(I did this soley from memory and didn't check any kind of reference to either series)

Actually, the elites were the second most advanced living species in the galaxy before the covenant, just under the prophets. But the prophets used forunner tech, elites didn't.

  • 12.02.2010 9:09 PM PDT


Posted by: zash208
# The head is less thoroughly shrunk and tends to exude a certain amount of oil
# The lips show no sign of perforation which results from the "chonta-wood" pins used by the Shuar during the preparation, as well as the lips are sewn with light threads instead of a heavy cotton string
# The top of the head is not pierced for the suspending cord
# The facial hair has not been singed off, or the skin polished

Now the difference between a Predator and an Elite? Elite is naturally as strong as fully armored Spartan-II, as quick as one, smart as one, and can be as stealthy as Predators.


fixed.

  • 12.03.2010 5:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: egore11

[quote]Posted by: Gruntpocalypto
I say Pred.

Predator:
The shoulder-mounted plasma launcher is like a mini-wraith turret

Thy have spears and, obviously, their claws/knives. (I'm not sure how the spear works or if it is just a regular throwing lance)

Their helmets have multiple vision modes as stated before (Alien, Thermal, Electric, White Light etc.)

Their armor is more ceremonial than protecting, I believe.

They also have near perfect Active Camouflage

Sangheili:

Have plasma weapons and energy swords too, but only under the Covenant's power (I don't know what Sangheili weapons were like before being inducted into the Covenant)

The Sangheili Armor is also supplied by the Covenant, along with the armor abilities, vehicles, and their command powers.

Sangheili are natural predators like the Predator species, and are on par with the SPARTANs.


I am pretty sure that the Predator would win. Minus the Covenant, the Sangheili aren't as strong or tech savvy. While regular humans can indeed kill a Predator, their sneaky nature greatly helps them. Arnold was able to kill one, but it gave up a good fight and he had to hide from it and mask his heat signature, ergo, outsmart its technology.

I am going to assume that the Sangheili hadn't discovered plasma weapons before they Covenant found them. So that makes the Sangheili a fairly modern race, with guns and explosives, like the humans from the original Predator movie.

The Predator already has it's own cloaking, plasma caster, and close quarters weapons. The Sangheili are also quite large, making them somewhat easy to spot, even in an open setting like a forest or in overcast skies. The Pred will sneak up on them, kill them with the knives, take their head, and go back into cloaking before it can be shot at. Then it will repeat until it kills the satisfactory amount of 10-point Sangheili.

(I did this soley from memory and didn't check any kind of reference to either series)

Actually, the elites were the second most advanced living species in the galaxy before the covenant, just under the prophets. But the prophets used forunner tech, elites didn't.[/quoute]

No. They both used Forerunner tech, and still they took 100,000 years.

  • 12.03.2010 1:10 PM PDT

The Elites didn't use their technology though, they revered it as holy relics and they weren't to be touched.

In that case it would be the same as before.

[Edited on 12.03.2010 1:25 PM PST]

  • 12.03.2010 1:23 PM PDT

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Elites all the way, epic fight though.

Elites ave energy shields which could block most of Predator's weapons. Both have a cloak and the Predator had thermal which could see through the Elite's thermal, but we do not know if the Elite's cloak masks thermal or not. Elites are far more agile and have better armor. Also, an Elite's plasma weapons could melt through anything the Predator has. Also, the Elite could easily dodge the Predator's plasma shot as easily as a spartan laser blast.

[Edited on 12.03.2010 7:42 PM PST]

  • 12.03.2010 7:40 PM PDT
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we don't know how Covenant cloaking works, it could mask the thermal for all we know.
Read Halo Evolutions, one of the Headhunters uses his visual upgrades to see right through the elite camouflage, and these are special ops elites to. So predator thermals beat elite camo, mmmkay? Oh, wait. Elites still run the predators through with the sword, seing as the predators have no access to energy weapons.

[Edited on 12.04.2010 4:38 AM PST]

  • 12.04.2010 4:34 AM PDT

Reading all of this makes me want to see Elite Vs Predator EPIC!!!

  • 01.08.2011 6:31 AM PDT


Posted by: Gruntpocalypto
I say Pred.

Predator:
The shoulder-mounted plasma launcher is like a mini-wraith turret

Thy have spears and, obviously, their claws/knives. (I'm not sure how the spear works or if it is just a regular throwing lance)

Their helmets have multiple vision modes as stated before (Alien, Thermal, Electric, White Light etc.)

Their armor is more ceremonial than protecting, I believe.

They also have near perfect Active Camouflage

Sangheili:

Have plasma weapons and energy swords too, but only under the Covenant's power (I don't know what Sangheili weapons were like before being inducted into the Covenant)

The Sangheili Armor is also supplied by the Covenant, along with the armor abilities, vehicles, and their command powers.

Sangheili are natural predators like the Predator species, and are on par with the SPARTANs.


I am pretty sure that the Predator would win. Minus the Covenant, the Sangheili aren't as strong or tech savvy. While regular humans can indeed kill a Predator, their sneaky nature greatly helps them. Arnold was able to kill one, but it gave up a good fight and he had to hide from it and mask his heat signature, ergo, outsmart its technology.

I am going to assume that the Sangheili hadn't discovered plasma weapons before they Covenant found them. So that makes the Sangheili a fairly modern race, with guns and explosives, like the humans from the original Predator movie.

The Predator already has it's own cloaking, plasma caster, and close quarters weapons. The Sangheili are also quite large, making them somewhat easy to spot, even in an open setting like a forest or in overcast skies. The Pred will sneak up on them, kill them with the knives, take their head, and go back into cloaking before it can be shot at. Then it will repeat until it kills the satisfactory amount of 10-point Sangheili.

(I did this soley from memory and didn't check any kind of reference to either series)

All that tech that the covenant has was provided by the elites in the first place. Also the cloaking that elites have is far superior. Unlike the pred's cloaking, elite camo doesn't malfunction in water, doesn't break up when moving, and elite spec-ops have infinite camo.
EDIT: The plasma caster doesn't even touch the wraith turret in terms of power.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 6:45 AM PST]

  • 01.08.2011 6:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: CreeperHugger
we don't know how Covenant cloaking works, it could mask the thermal for all we know.
Read Halo Evolutions, one of the Headhunters uses his visual upgrades to see right through the elite camouflage, and these are special ops elites to. So predator thermals beat elite camo, mmmkay? Oh, wait. Elites still run the predators through with the sword, seing as the predators have no access to energy weapons.


Technically, its was a different type of active camouflage. Chameleon like, not light refracting, Reach's camo.

An Elite should win, mainly because of the shielding. We've seen humans survive plasma caster shots to non vital areas, and we could say that the Elite's shields could take a hit from it. And the sword. It can tear through anything, especially armor.

  • 01.08.2011 7:21 AM PDT

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Meh.

Sangheili, assuming they don't get snuck up on and shot at first.

  • 01.08.2011 8:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
6: So you see the Elites, who can steam role entire human platoons alone with just knives and fists,

Example, please. ;)

Posted by: egore11
Actually, the elites were the second most advanced living species in the galaxy before the covenant, just under the prophets. But the prophets used forunner tech, elites didn't.

Perhaps, but they could not have had any Covenant grade technology. Otherwise they would have had at least a basic understanding of Maxwell's Field Equations unlike what Cortana described them as having in First Strike. There are multiple other reasons why what you are implying does not make sense.

Posted by: SGT lemon 25
All that tech that the covenant has was provided by the elites in the first place. Also the cloaking that elites have is far superior. Unlike the pred's cloaking, elite camo doesn't malfunction in water, doesn't break up when moving, and elite spec-ops have infinite camo.

No. It was all developed from reverse engineered Forerunner technology. See above. That does not make sense when their predicament in The Return is so grave.

[Edited on 01.08.2011 9:39 AM PST]

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