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Subject: Why weren't Hunters the Honor Guard?

Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
Whilst they would have been effective at covering an emergency retreat, they would not have been effective at preventing a close-quarters assassination. Too big, and their armament too heavy for close-quarters.


In ships, Lekgolo worms protect the Shipmaster, or avenge his/her death if he is killed before he/she can be saved.

  • 12.06.2010 12:33 AM PDT

Posted by: Wolverfrog
Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
Whilst they would have been effective at covering an emergency retreat, they would not have been effective at preventing a close-quarters assassination. Too big, and their armament too heavy for close-quarters.


In ships, Lekgolo worms protect the Shipmaster, or avenge his/her death if he is killed before he/she can be saved.


Hunters also drive the Scarab Mobile Tanks.

  • 12.06.2010 12:52 AM PDT

the best example for me of how powerful hunters are is in halo II i belive, two hunters go into a room filled with either flood or covenant, the doors close (the room has lots of bad guys in it!) there are a load of bangs, doors open and there are two hunters and an absolute ton of corpses, hunters FTW! i think in reach, mythic difficulty is the only fair way to judge them because they are crazy hard to kill..!

  • 12.06.2010 7:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: MainString0158
Hunters are just a collection of eels that become one entity. They never really agreed with the Covenant in the first place. They were forced into it. I think communication with hunters would be difficult for prophets as well.


This.

There are also communication issues, and Hunters are said to have an even bigger ego than elites, not caring for any other race, prophet or grunt, other than elites.

Now, a small group of hunters led by honor guard elites? that would be a better option.

  • 12.06.2010 12:59 PM PDT

Actual reason, elites were promised that role when the covenant was first made.

  • 12.06.2010 2:52 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.

Movement, Loyalty, intelligence. These are your answers.

And any self respecting soldier can take out a Hunter.

This why SPARTANs, Brutes, and Elites are the Alpha and Omega. Brutes are just barbaric.

  • 12.06.2010 3:08 PM PDT

When the Covenant was first formed, the Elites ceased fire so long as they got to be protectors while the San 'Shyuum would be the collectors of the Forerunner stuff.

  • 12.06.2010 3:11 PM PDT
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The language barrier among Hunters and the rest of the Covenant would be hard to overcome, and Hunters would also be harder to manage due to their equipment. Their armor and weapons cost about the same as the amount for 3 Elites or 5 or 6 Brutes. So, yeah.

  • 12.06.2010 3:18 PM PDT

The only change of guard we've seen caused a civil war. "We have always been your protectors" has weight.

  • 12.06.2010 3:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThE ReD3mPti0n
no honor as well just muscle.
sorry double post :\

funny, I made a quadruple post because of a connection problem before.

OT: they weren't considered "honourable" enough to guard them, and weren't really in the highs of the covenant like the elites were before the schism.

  • 12.06.2010 4:04 PM PDT

Posted by: Sparty Boy 117

Posted by: ThE ReD3mPti0n
no honor as well just muscle.
sorry double post :\

funny, I made a quadruple post because of a connection problem before.

OT: they weren't considered "honourable" enough to guard them, and weren't really in the highs of the covenant like the elites were before the schism.


Brutes really didn't have honor either, they destroyed their own world with Nuclear Weapons, they are savages in the stone age, and yet they became the dominant species.

  • 12.06.2010 6:35 PM PDT

seventh coloumn pride

cause hunters use explosive wepons wich could mess up the prophets throne room

  • 12.06.2010 6:39 PM PDT

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The point of an honor guard is largely ceremonial instead of a true combat role. Honor guards spend most of their time standing around instead of fighting.

On High Charity the honor guard protected the prophets long enough for them to retreat and for the combat units to show up. On Delta Halo they protected Regret after all other units standing between Regret and Master Chief.

The ceremonial role of an honor guard is also why the elites were so unhappy with the changing of the guard. They are trusted enough to be the protectors of the Prophets, similarly to contemporary honor guards are in a position that is considered very honorable.

So, to answer the OP's question, hunters would not be on the honor guard because they are combat units, not ceremonial soldiers.

  • 12.06.2010 6:55 PM PDT

When playing as the Chief on high charity and the old honor guards are fighting the new brute honor guards, there's a room I remember (perhaps the Arbiter Mausoleum?) that had two hunters fighting alongside the elites.

  • 12.06.2010 11:59 PM PDT
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It's all to do with social status, they didn't really expect the honour guards to do any fighting at all. It's part of the original Covenant writ of union.

  • 12.07.2010 12:37 AM PDT

This is Sparta!!! eh I mean Reach ^^

Hunters might be strong but they are not really intelligent and without their armor they are quite easy to get killed too.

  • 12.07.2010 2:47 AM PDT

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Hunters are very smart, not stupid. They are made up of millions of worms creating a large, strong, mobile colony. Normally they are split in two, creating a bloodbond so strong that only death can break it.

The reason that I believe is the most likely reason for Hunters not being allowed to be an Honour guard is because they have too much friendship with the Elites and if the backstabbing Prophets tried to attack the Elites then they would be absolutely gunned down.

The only thing I didn't like about Halo 3 was that there was no Hunters on the Elites side. I thought they would have joined forces because of the amount of hounor and friendship they have.

  • 12.07.2010 3:42 AM PDT

i think that if the worms that controle the hunters (lekgolo) were contained in a more slim and elite sized armor, fitted with normle covy weapons the hunters can achieve a lot more than they are capable of

  • 12.07.2010 5:12 AM PDT

Hunters are slow and not that tactical, armor abilities , weapons...

  • 12.07.2010 5:40 AM PDT

Slow, retarded and inmobile.

  • 12.07.2010 5:48 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Hunters arent as fanatics to the Covenant Religion as Elite's or Brute's are, thus making them doubtfull in the role of protecting the Prophets.

  • 12.07.2010 6:03 AM PDT

glad someone posted that, what is it with everyone and thinking hunters are stupid!? they are supposed to be very intelligent and deadly combatants, think about it they are made from a large number of intelligent worms! also hunters are virtually indestructable, and about the quote of 'any self respecting soldier can take down a hunter..' thats one of the stupidest things i have read on here, halo II a classic example, hunters come through the door into a courtyard if you don't assist all of the marines die, horribly and quickly regardless of what they do, also during the civil war hunters seem unfazed by whatever attacks them, baring in mind they have absolute loyalty to the sangheili.

the only reason hunters wouldn't be good honour guard is because they don't really care about the whole religious nutjob side of the covenant, so the question would be 'would they really fight to protect a prophet?', im guessing they would if they were lead by an elite. another problem as someone stated, they use fuel rod guns which tend to blow stuff up, which might not be great around a prophet. imagine secret service protecting the president using AT-4s instead of pistols, just as likely to kill the president as the people trying to do that!

  • 12.07.2010 7:46 AM PDT

Thanks for clearing that up for me, I'm glad everyone realizes that Hunters are very strong and smart creatures, I understand what you meant that they really don't care much for the Great Journey but Hunters were the units made to protect the Forerunner artifacts once found.

  • 12.07.2010 3:47 PM PDT

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It's a lot easier to kill a Hunter than a highly-trained Sangheili warrior with strong energy shields.

  • 12.07.2010 5:32 PM PDT

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Alright, to whoever was talking about it took three spartans five minutes to cripple a hunter, there are three reasons why it took them a while. And it was less than 5 minutes. Believe me, guns run out of ammo faster than you'd think.

1) It was their first time facing a Hunter. They had no idea what to expect. It was the first time anybody had seen (and lived) to tell the story about the Hunter. There were no former records of a UNSC soldier facing a Hunter. That's why even though an Elite is on equal terms of strength with a Spartan, they don't have the same reaction time or any combat experience with fighting spartans. They don't have anything to really learn from at all.

2) They had no idea how tough it's shield was. But now they do know. Which is why in Ghosts of Onyx you see Will literally punching through the skin of one Hunter now that they knew its weakness.

3) They weren't in much of a position to get around it.

Continuing on with the poin though, Hunters are too slow to deal with a lot of the threats that might come up. They're extremely easy to just sorta run around after Halo: CE making the Elites better guards.



[Edited on 12.07.2010 6:09 PM PST]

  • 12.07.2010 6:05 PM PDT

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