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Subject: So... i used to love you.

Bungie from the beginning I didn't know this would be the end... I've loved the Halo series since CE days and went totally ape -blam!- when 2 came out after 2 I hit the books, all of them I've read multiple times..then Three came out... played it religiously for about 2+ years... loved MLG, gamebattles, ODST, Legends, graphic novels comics, even loved halo wars(although you didn't directly create it you were responsible) you name it I've got it if it had to do with halo...But then Reach came out and honestly at first I was hyped even though I knew from the PAX first mission leak the story looked a little off... S-III's on reach? in July? Ahhh they know what they are doing its still going to be awesome. I went and bought the Legendary Edition... with barely any content as far as development, documentary and behind the scenes, so why did i pay $110 extra a statue of Spartans that really have no meaning? Thanks... Aside from the tremendously horrid campaign(Don't say its not, they took generic ass characters put them in a battle that was supposed to be epic and then gave them a mission that wasn't really necessary to begin with)The still limited Forge capabilities(really we can't add a tree? all forerunner all the time?)A Theater experience only one person can enjoy(Who goes to the movies alone? why should Halo be any different since its just as entertaining.) and lastly a matchmaking system that...Do i really need to start just use the searchbar if you really don't know, and the MLG playlist just show us that you don't play test -blam!- because if you did you would have said something like "hey I can't jump is this a problem?" But no you didn't there are plenty of reasons this game isn't what it could of been but knowing you you won't answer any of it. And Lastly if you think I'm a troll? I'm not. CoD fanboy? not. Noob? not. I'm a normal guy with a girlfriend a job and an outside life and honestly I'm still gonna play Halo I'm almost a General, I'm just saying how disappointed I am in Bungie cuz sure Reach is a great game but it doesn't deserve Halo before it. So criticize me if you want i really don't care, I really just hope 343 takes it in a better direction than Bungie lighting the franchise on fire then jumping ship.

TL;DR version: Bungie didn't do their last halo justice

  • 12.07.2010 2:51 PM PDT

KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!

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  • 12.07.2010 3:25 PM PDT
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CoD is a good game, even if the Halo series are better in some aspects. Anyone who insults either is just bad in that game. Grow up.


Posted by: Saso Chicken
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That may be, but aside from the anger and some slight exaggerations, the OP has a point.

[Edited on 12.07.2010 9:38 PM PST]

  • 12.07.2010 6:19 PM PDT

thanks man it is just really frustrating to know that it could of been so much better

  • 12.07.2010 6:49 PM PDT

People really enjoy tearing up Reach. Sure, there are some lame things, but people go over the top in my opinion.

I don't mean any disrespect by that. I just personally don't see what is so wrong with it.

At the end of Reach, I felt like it had been a really fun go. I felt like it had been the end of a really good game because I felt nostalgic about the other games as well as glad I bought this game.

The Halo: CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 games were such good ones. You are so right.

I don't want to speak for Bungie, but I think that they hoped to rekindle those fires and make those memories prevalent after finishing Reach.

In Halo:CE, I didn't know who they were talking about when, in the beginning, they said "Do you think they made it?".
Now I know they meant the people on Reach. They meant you, a member of Noble Team, and the people with you.
Personally I really enjoyed the message from Bungie. I really enjoyed the full circle. It was a lead in to the game. It was a lead in to the most epic thing to hit gaming according to you. It was supposed to remind you of all the good games and all.

I am not white-knighting for Bungie here because admittedly there are a few things I don't enjoy as well, but dang. You just glassed Bungie in your post.

Sure it wasn't pure poetic genius worthy of Shakespeare-like reverence for the centuries to come, but I felt it really did the title justice. I think once again they evolved the combat. It's not just another Halo game where you do the same thing with better graphics. They went for more dynamics. They went for more strategies and ways to play the game. It wasn't all sunshine and wins, but they didn't totally fail like you let on I don't think. I liked it.

I am also sorry you feel let down by the amount of content you got for the money you paid for Legendary Edition. As a consumer, I looked at what I would be getting and decided against it.

  • 12.07.2010 6:54 PM PDT
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CoD is a good game, even if the Halo series are better in some aspects. Anyone who insults either is just bad in that game. Grow up.


Posted by: CoconutOctopus


I don't mean any disrespect by that. I just personally don't see what is so wrong with it.

At the end of Reach, I felt like it had been a really fun go. I felt like it had been the end of a really good game because I felt nostalgic about the other games as well as glad I bought this game.

The Halo: CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 games were such good ones. You are so right.

Sure it wasn't pure poetic genius worthy of Shakespeare-like reverence for the centuries to come, but I felt it really did the title justice. I think once again they evolved the combat. It's not just another Halo game where you do the same thing with better graphics. They went for more dynamics. They went for more strategies and ways to play the game. It wasn't all sunshine and wins, but they didn't totally fail like you let on I don't think. I liked it.

The things that went wrong with Reach starts with Bungie's attitude towards its story. The very fact that they easily broke previously constructed canon was already asking for faith from halo fans, and yet, what they presented us with is simply sub-par from everything they led us to believe.

Aside from the canon breaks, the story was only good, not great. A lot of stuff seem underwhelming. As the OP stated, it was a waste of the potential that the all-epic Reach had to offer. This is why Reach fails its title. It should have been named Halo: Noble Team instead, and the story should have been told in a graphic novel, because that was not THE story of Reach.
We're talking about the battle of Reach here. The largest and second most important human-covenant conflict in the entire known halo story, and yet what they presented us with simply did not showcase the importance of the conflict. We also never see all the signature things we know about the battle; no giant orbital or land engagements, no SMACs, and no glassing. Not to mention, if you were to think about it, it seems both the UNSC and the covenant suddenly became incompetent morons for the duration of the battle. In other words, Reach was hollywoodized, and became all the worse because of it. Reach should have been epic, not insignificant, and the way Bungie handled the story just reeks of carelessness and inflated egos.

That's my 2 cents about the story of Reach.

  • 12.07.2010 9:37 PM PDT