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Subject: Which one was the best?

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Posted by: SilverBulitt82
Same Here man, I like all the Halos, but Halo 2 and Halo CE had the best campaigns, and Halo 2s multiplayer was my favorite.


Yeah, it's too bad they did remake Lockout with the same theme as the original. They did that with Ivory Tower too- why can't they just DUPLICATE it?

  • 12.08.2010 4:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: sCRuFFYj0E
It depends on in which order you get them. Almost always people think the first one of a series that they bought/played is best.
I follow that rule. My first Halo game was Halo 3, and I voted for that.

  • 12.08.2010 4:12 PM PDT
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Halo 2, Gaming's flawed diamond.

Despite everything that was wrong with it, how fun the game was completely overshadowed the flaws.

  • 12.08.2010 4:16 PM PDT

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And those flaws are...? The only flaw I could see was that there never seemed to be a shotgun when them brutes started beating the -blam!- out of you

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  • 12.08.2010 4:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Saso Chicken
And those flaws are...? The only flaw I could see was that there never seemed to be a shotgun when them brutes started beating the -blam!- out of you
Lol, that was a little annoying, but just a little detail. I didn't have the pleasure to play Halo 2 online, but I loved the campaign.

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I'd have to go with Halo 3. I didn't really have much of a chance to play CE and 2 much.

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Posted by: nofatchicks6921
I'd have to go with Halo 3. I didn't really have much of a chance to play CE and 2 much.
Same here. I regret it though.

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Posted by: The Highwayman48

Posted by: nofatchicks6921
I'd have to go with Halo 3. I didn't really have much of a chance to play CE and 2 much.
Same here. I regret it though.


Yeah, it sucked. My Xbox broke just 2 days after I got Halo 2 for Christmas 2006, It didn't get repaired until the following April (M$ being lazy), and I didn't get my Xbox on XBL until less than a month before Halo 3 came out. Still, my short time playing Halo 2 was fun while it lasted.

  • 12.08.2010 4:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Highwayman48
Posted by: nofatchicks6921
I'd have to go with Halo 3. I didn't really have much of a chance to play CE and 2 much.
Same here. I regret it though.


Play them. You can get both for about 20 bucks, and believe me it is worth it. So worth it that, that instead of going back to Halo 3 because I don't like Reach, I went back to replay Halo 2's campaign last weekend

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Posted by: Saso Chicken
Posted by: The Highwayman48
Posted by: nofatchicks6921
I'd have to go with Halo 3. I didn't really have much of a chance to play CE and 2 much.
Same here. I regret it though.


Play them. You can get both for about 20 bucks, and believe me it is worth it. So worth it that, that instead of going back to Halo 3 because I don't like Reach, I went back to replay Halo 2's campaign last weekend


I have. It turned out that I sold my old Halo 2 copy a long time ago, and my friend let me take his copy off his hands for 15 bucks. And the Best Buy by my house still sells copies of CE. So I bought one of those as well. I plan on playing them very soon.

  • 12.08.2010 4:48 PM PDT

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Hell yeah

  • 12.08.2010 4:49 PM PDT

Posted by: Saso Chicken
Aside from that what else bothered you?
I'm in the mood for a nerd rant. Apologies in advance.

1. Alien Politics
Halo 2 was where the series jumped from a military science fiction story with a mysterious backdrop to the story of a squid monster discovering flaws in his government. Yes, the change was pretty jarring, but my main complaint is that the Covenant were (and still are) the least interesting part of the story to me.

Similar to the Pfhor in the Marathon series, the only purpose of Halo 1's Covenant - from a storytelling perspective - was to prevent the gamer from experiencing the story. Making it so we have to fight for every cutscene, for every terminal. It created suspense, and made me hate the Covenant and the Pfhor for the religious / slave-trading bastards that they are. But Halo 2 throws interesting plot elements (Forerunner, A.I.s) aside as it continues showing me Alien politics, the honorable Sanghelli warriors and all the other crap that should stay in the expanded universe where it belongs.

2. Space Pickles
Halo 2 had a nasty habit of jumping the shark. For example, upon completing the first mission of the game, Master Chief drags an alien bomb that he just found into an elevator. Cortana tells him that she knows what he's thinking, and that he's completely bat-blam!- insane. She is proven right when his plan is revealed to be aimlessly launching himself out of an airlock in an attempt to reach the Covenant ship kilometers away, planting the bomb in its core by going through a hole in the hull that didn't exist at the time he came up with the plan, and escaping by using the sheer power of his leg muscles to propel himself away from the gigantic explosion and land perfectly on top of Johnson's ship (also presumably kilometers away).

While this scene rates high on the "Totally -blam!- Awesome" scale, it abandons all logic completely, which is a bad thing to do when you're trying to make your audience take squid monsters and plant poets seriously. Speaking of which...

3. Plant Poets
I know this is just one character, but it deserves its own section. With all the amazing things that wound up on cutting room floor, why was the Gravemind one of the ideas that was actually realized? Does knowing that the Flood's central intelligence is located in the monster from Little Shop of Horrors and enjoys reciting the occasional nursery rhyme make them any more interesting? But if you're like me or anyone I knew at the time Halo 2 was popular, you didn't know what the hell this character even was. To us, Master Chief may as well have been saved from drowning by Freddy Fish (that would make for one hell of a crossover).

I think less silly way to make the Flood interesting would be having the Gravemind keep its flytrap shut, and having Cortana be the Flood's only spokesperson. Cortana would be corrupted by the Flood, trick you at the end of the game into helping the Gravemind get to High Charity, and then she could spend Halo 3 doing interesting things rather than simply appearing in vague visions.

And that's my slightly-off-topic tarp of a post. If nothing else, you at least got a decent nap out of it. If you need me, I'll be in the angry dome.

  • 12.08.2010 6:13 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

It's a five way tie between Halo: CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo: ODST and Halo: Reach.

  • 12.08.2010 7:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nyxiz
Halo 2, Gaming's flawed diamond.

Despite everything that was wrong with it, how fun the game was completely overshadowed the flaws.

  • 12.08.2010 8:09 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

Wait, where is the "ALL OF THE ABOVE" option?

  • 12.08.2010 8:11 PM PDT

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2. TO clarify all the statements:
- He didn't "just" find it- they became aware that the Covenant had brought a bomb on when they boarded and the Chief had disarmed it just in time.
- "Aimless"? He was trying to blow up one the Covenant capital ships, thereby ending at least one major threat to Earth, a good reallocation of resources
- The hole did exist. At first I thought what you did, but after playing through it couple times, some Longswords come in an create a small opening that Chief is able to enter and exit by (Shivas?)
- As for propelling himself via his legs, he is 1 ton in weight with his armor on, so he's got a got of inertia, but that bomb does too- if you noticed, it took him some effort to move it, and he's pretty damn strong
-And landing perfectly on the ship? Well, no really logical explanation, besides that "for a brick, he flew pretty good," and he's highly trained. What gives?

Anyway, hope you read that in a polite manner, since that's how I was trying to type it (obviously it hard to convey emotion through text), just letting you know I wasn't trying to flame.

  • 12.08.2010 9:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Saso Chicken
- "Aimless"? He was trying to blow up one the Covenant capital ships, thereby ending at least one major threat to Earth, a good reallocation of resources
Unless they actually aimed the station at the ship (which they didn't because Chief gives his superiors a very vague description of what he's about to do), then Master Chief was just eyeballing it.
- The hole did exist. At first I thought what you did, but after playing through it couple times, some Longswords come in an create a small opening that Chief is able to enter and exit by (Shivas?)I know that, what I'm saying is that the Longswords didn't blow the hole in the Covenant ship until he had already launched himself out of the airlock.
-And landing perfectly on the ship? Well, no really logical explanation, besides that "for a brick, he flew pretty good," and he's highly trained. What gives?Unless the explosion blew him in the exact right direction, he'd miss the Amber Clad completely. Being highly trained doesn't make a difference when you have no way of directing yourself in the emptiness of space.

And these nitpicks are very far away from my point, which is that the game expects me to take its story seriously while showing me that it can detach itself from any semblance of realism just to look cool. The game ceases to be a good story and becomes a cheesy action flick, a good cheesy action flick, but a cheesy action flick all the same.

/whining

Despite my rambling, I actually like Halo 2's campaign quite a bit. I'm being over-analytical as hell mostly just to entertain myself.

  • 12.09.2010 2:27 PM PDT

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Best campaign: Halo 2
Best Multiplayer: Reach
Best Weapons: Halo 3, Reach
Best characters: Halo CE, Cpt. Keys. Halo 3: Johnson, H:ODST, Buck, Dare and Rokie.


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  • 12.09.2010 2:34 PM PDT

I don't care. I really don't.


Posted by: sCRuFFYj0E
It depends on in which order you get them. Almost always people think the first one of a series that they bought/played is best.


Not true. I played Halo 2 first, and it's my least faovrite. I just found it to be more of an action movie geared to those who can't think and string events together.
My favorite Halo was CE, and that's because you feel small, and it gives time to look at your surroundings. Halo 2, no matter how many times I try, I play a level and just the way the cutscenes and the gameplay mingle it makes me feel like I don't have time to have fun and explore. The story felt like the protagonist should've been played by Arnold, and the director should've been Chuck Norris.
It wasn't completely Halo for me as soon as I played the others and compared them, and that's why I think quite a few players don't like 3/Reach: they weren't steroid pumped like Halo 2, and many people who were brought into the series by the second one couldn't understand why, and therefore disliked them.

That's why Halo 2, although still amazing and pure awesome and without it your Halo collection isn't complete, it is in my opinion the weakest link in the main trilogy.

[Edited on 12.09.2010 3:00 PM PST]

  • 12.09.2010 2:51 PM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Quality wise, for some reason, I want to say ODST. It was incredibly well made imo.

But I'm going to say Halo CE.

  • 12.09.2010 2:58 PM PDT

I loved both CE's and Halo 2's campaigns, though I hated the cliffhanger. Also, you're right about the "give the covenant back their bomb" cutscene. Too cheezy. At the time I didn't even think it was that badass. Talking with Gravemind and fighting on High Charity was much more epic. (Hey, I'm a flood fan.)

As far as multiplayer goes, I enjoy Halo: Reach much more than any other game in the series. One could go onto my file and see that I did not play a whole lot of Halo 3, but I did when my younger brother and I used to share a live account. (He had the impressive Gears 2 K/D ratio, so I let him keep it, haha!) I hardly get bored with Halo: Reach multiplayer and when I do, I go forge, hit up some firefight, or play campaign. Super fun with a whole lot of choices. I absolutely love it.

Halo 2 had an amazing soundtrack that still clings deep within my memories. Awesome awesome awesome. I should probably actually get the damned soundtrack instead of just thinking about it, haha.

  • 12.09.2010 3:07 PM PDT

Posted by: HipiO7
Quality wise, for some reason, I want to say ODST. It was incredibly well made imo.
Best campaign out of the Halo games on the 360, I'd say. It'd rival the first two games if it wasn't so damn short.

[Edited on 12.09.2010 3:27 PM PST]

  • 12.09.2010 3:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
Quality wise, for some reason, I want to say ODST. It was incredibly well made imo.
Best campaign out of the Halo games on the 360, I'd say. It'd rival the first two games if it wasn't so damn short.


Yeah it was pretty good, although all the tan got to me on the safari mission and it's corresponding FF level, same for the purple clouds on Romeo's flashback mission. The rest was pretty good though.
My biggest complaint was the ending of ODST. If the beginning, they have one of the most fun cutscenes (when you get to drop down and look around while you're doing it, that's just special), and the part in that cutscene where they're examining the capital ship and Dutch says "No, they left it for us," I figured the ending would be us blowing it up.
What they could have done was have ODST's campaign happens, and then rather than using the Engineer to distract the Covenant ships from the rogue Phantom, they could use it to gain access to the capital ship, whereby you and your whole squad fight your ways through Covenant corridors until you get to the engine core, where you plant a bomb and then have to run like hell back to the landing bay, get on the Phantom, and blast out with Covenant firing at you as you go. Then there's an explosion behind you, your Phantom crashes from the blast, and after getting out of the Phantom, you look up and see the ship in flames.

That's my end to it....

  • 12.09.2010 3:46 PM PDT

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What, you don't think that's epic?

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