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Subject: Can a SPARTAN cry or get very emotional?
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I was just wondering how these super soldiers were created, then I thought, are these super soldiers so heavily drugged that they're emotionless killing machines? Depending on what happens can a spartan cry or breakdown at the slightest bit? Even for SPARTAN-II's?

I never read the books, so I'd appreciate it if you experts explain this stuff to me :)

  • 12.07.2010 7:55 PM PDT

Im not sure they are really drugged up. Aren't they geneticlly enhanced??? i haven't read the books either
I think they do have emotions but in a time of crisis they cant show them
example-when carter sacrifices himself
he looks completly calm but inside he is probably screaming like a little girl
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  • 12.07.2010 8:01 PM PDT
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They definitely have emotions, but they're pretty minimal. It might be due to the drugs or due to being in a military setting and training their entire lives (and thus not being able to show emotions).

Usually, the most outwardly emotional a Spartan gets is drawing a smiley on their facemask to show they're really happy (like if they thought someone had died but they saw them during regrouping). At least, that's all I remember.

  • 12.07.2010 8:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: DaTsmartkiDD
I was just wondering how these super soldiers were created, then I thought, are these super soldiers so heavily drugged that they're emotionless killing machines? Depending on what happens can a spartan cry or breakdown at the slightest bit? Even for SPARTAN-II's?

I never read the books, so I'd appreciate it if you experts explain this stuff to me :)


Never been an instance of a Spartan II crying, I'm pretty sure. (Can't remember if Daisy did or not...)

Also, Blue team saw it's closest friends die, and not a single spartan shed a tear or get really disturbed by it. Though Will's death was the most "mourned"

  • 12.07.2010 8:01 PM PDT

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of course they can, in the book: the fall of reach, he was totally horrofied by seeing Linda get massacred by a buch of jackals and grunts, i dont know if it is the perfect example but i think it fits in

  • 12.07.2010 8:18 PM PDT

Spartans Never Cry.

  • 12.07.2010 8:19 PM PDT

They do feel emotion, and plenty of it. It's just after years of training and war they know how to hide and control it. And atleast one spartan has cried. Carter cried during the augmentation process.

[Edited on 12.07.2010 8:28 PM PST]

  • 12.07.2010 8:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: OniLink147
They do feel emotion, and plenty of it. It's just after years of training and war they know how to hide and control it.


They probably have a sort of complex that makes them unable to show large amounts of emotion. I think that Halsey modified them to help them stay calm under pressure. It makes sense, if your best friend dies in front of you by energy sword, you don't want to be caught sobbing and become the next victim. I do however think that they definitely feel emotions just like any other humans being.

That's probably why when Jorge tried to talk to the girl at the outpost, she didn't want to be touched. I got the feeling that the general public saw the SPARTANs as heroes, but thought that they were emotionless killing machines who weren't really human.

  • 12.07.2010 8:30 PM PDT

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  • 12.07.2010 8:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: joe campbell
Master Chief was devastated when he heard Reach was destroyed.


For all of 10 minutes. Spartans don't have the time to cry. Or dwell.

  • 12.07.2010 8:36 PM PDT

wasnt he devastated because that meant he was the last spartan???
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  • 12.07.2010 8:38 PM PDT
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wasnt he devastated because that meant he was the last spartan???


I think this supports my theory: The Master Chief could have potentially become severely depressed or even committed suicide knowing he was the last SPARTAN-II alive, but the augmentation kept him from properly receiving the brunt of his emotions, therefore letting him focus on the task he had at hand.

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Posted by: Spade Kc
wasnt he devastated because that meant he was the last spartan???


I think this supports my theory: The Master Chief could have potentially become severely depressed or even committed suicide knowing he was the last SPARTAN-II alive, but the augmentation kept him from properly receiving the brunt of his emotions, therefore letting him focus on the task he had at hand.

I highly doubt that any spartan-II would become "severely" depressed or commit suicide. Yes, they have been modified and are indoctrinated to constantly remain cool-headed, but that isn't even needed...Committing suicide just seems like an incredibly stupid idea for someone who carries so much on his shoulders. I'm pretty sure MC would have carried on even if he did feel sad.

  • 12.07.2010 9:08 PM PDT

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They've learned to get rid of or contain any unnecessary or distracting emotion.

  • 12.07.2010 9:23 PM PDT
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According to teh Halo Wiki, MC was saddened by the death of Arthur-079 and Solomon-069 when they died on a mission to rescue Dr. Halsey. Also when MC realized how fkcd up Linda's body was when she got raped by plasma shots on a mission that happened just as Reach was falling.

  • 12.07.2010 9:42 PM PDT

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I think there are two parts that make it unlikely for them to get too emotional.

1) The intense training and augmentation.
2) They just don't have the luxury of time. There is barely anytime downtime for the Spartans, especially the chief. Think about how long it took you to beat Halo: CE on legendary? The Chief fought right before that in "The Fall of Reach" and immediately after in "First Strike".

The books do mention being trained to hide emotions. But even if this weren't the case, they have very few minutes to think about their own feeling with the constant back-to-back battles.

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  • 12.07.2010 10:20 PM PDT

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The book The Fall Of Reach has a very poignant scene where CPO Mendez leaves them to start training the next generation of soldiers.

Mendez has a few moments to talk to the Master Chief and it ends with the MC wanting to say that he wanted to make Mendez proud & that he was grateful for all that Mendez taught him, but 'he didnt have the words'.

I suspect that during what Cortana describes as 'brutal indoctrination' emotions were never shared or discussed & without this development(remmeber they were only about 6 when they were abducted)they probably didnt understand that crying is an emotional response nor where able to process intense feelings anyway...

(TL:DR - Spartans never cry)

  • 12.07.2010 10:55 PM PDT

Spartans dont cry... they avenge...


  • 12.08.2010 12:03 AM PDT

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they feel emotions but lack the means to express them like a normal human, they eventually came up with their own ways of communicating emotions between each other, a good example is when they were happy they would put two fingers over their visor to signify a smile, or when everything was safe they would whistle oly oly oxenfree.

  • 12.08.2010 12:05 AM PDT


Posted by: DaTsmartkiDD
I was just wondering how these super soldiers were created, then I thought, are these super soldiers so heavily drugged that they're emotionless killing machines? Depending on what happens can a spartan cry or breakdown at the slightest bit? Even for SPARTAN-II's?

I never read the books, so I'd appreciate it if you experts explain this stuff to me :)


no, they're not emotionless; in First Strike, the Master Chief was desperate to find his friends on the ruins of Reach because he simply couldn't accept the fact they were all dead.

He also seemed to get close to the edge when Johnson died...but didn't we all?

Anyway, they do have emotions, but in battlefield situations, they are trained to not think about them, unless, like in some cases in the Chief's sake, the emotions are just to damn high to ignore.


Posted by: joe campbell
Master Chief was devastated when he heard Reach was destroyed.


Private Caboose:For all of 10 minutes. Spartans don't have the time to cry. Or dwell

His inability to accept the destruction of Reach was the primary plot-point in First Strike; he simply HAD to see it for himself.

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  • 12.08.2010 4:54 AM PDT
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  • 12.08.2010 7:21 AM PDT

We're never what we invent or intend.

S-IIs aren't drugged at all, and can show emotions perfectly well. However, they're been soldiers since the age of six. Eve if you look at a soldier in today's world, joined up with the military at 18, they've been trained and hardened into warriors. As far as I know, they don't do a lot of crying or cursing the world for its cruelty on the battlefield. Off the battlefied is a different matter, but you see the anguish that Jorge and Kat's deaths caused in Noble Team.

S-IIIs may have drugs in their systems, but not that sort. They increase agressor response and shock tolerance, allowing them to keep fighting under wounds or conditions that would kill a normal person. These drugs don't supress emotional response.

So yes, they can cry.

  • 12.08.2010 7:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: DaTsmartkiDD
I was just wondering how these super soldiers were created, then I thought, are these super soldiers so heavily drugged that they're emotionless killing machines? Depending on what happens can a spartan cry or breakdown at the slightest bit? Even for SPARTAN-II's?

I never read the books, so I'd appreciate it if you experts explain this stuff to me :)


They could if they wanted, but after years of hard military training from child hood, they have suppressed their emotions pretty well. They still feel everything, numerous occurrences in books that prove that, but they hide it well. And i'm pretty sure none of the augmentation drugs did anything to that (i'll have to check halsey's notes again though, to be sure). Halsey, i believe, wouldn't have seen that as humane. She already felt pretty bad about a lot of the stuff. So yeah, if hey wanted to show their emotions, they could. They just tend not to. And if you get the chance, you should read the books, they are really good :)

  • 12.08.2010 7:56 AM PDT

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I heard Kat cries right before her period starts.

But on a more serious note, and perhaps a less offensive note, I totally agree with the following.


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They could if they wanted, but after years of hard military training from child hood, they have suppressed their emotions pretty well. They still feel everything, numerous occurrences in books that prove that, but they hide it well. And i'm pretty sure none of the augmentation drugs did anything to that (i'll have to check halsey's notes again though, to be sure). Halsey, i believe, wouldn't have seen that as humane. She already felt pretty bad about a lot of the stuff. So yeah, if hey wanted to show their emotions, they could. They just tend not to. And if you get the chance, you should read the books, they are really good :)

  • 12.08.2010 8:00 AM PDT
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Master Chief must of been upset about Johnson.

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