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Subject: When are these Forerunner facts stated?

I don't care. I really don't.

I used to think I knew as much as everyone else about the Forerunners, which is very little.
But as I've been strolling the forums, I've seen several notions and ideas that I have never seen before, and I was wondering where people found them.

1. Forerunners shipboard weapons could cause supernovas.
2. Forerunners ship hulls are impervious, yet the metal that makes up Sentinels, which appears to be exactly the same super metal, isn't.
3. Forerunners knew everything in our enourmous Galaxy that existed at the time they existed.
4. They are the same species as humans (personally I think this is just wishful thinking and misinterpretation of the evidence).

Where are these facts coming from? The Terminals? Read those. An ARG? Those too. Novels? Yup. So where? Just hope people can clarify.

  • 12.11.2010 11:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: Venator82
1. Forerunners shipboard weapons could cause supernovas.



In the Terminals Mendicant Bias reports that "This fleet currently retains the capacity to force premature stellar collapse" However, it is important to note that nothing is said about individual ships being able to do this, and Mendicant Biases fleet was 1000 ships strong. It may take an entire fleet to perform such an action. The encyclopedia mentions that 'battle groups' were used.

  • 12.11.2010 11:31 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Yeah, most of these have been blown way out of proportion by folk in "Halo Vs [Insert other sci fi universe here]".

1) I think it was mentioned somewhere in the terminals that Mendicant Bias resorted to causing premature stellar collapse in order to slow down the Floods progress through the Galaxy. It looked like it required an entire Fleet though, and not just one ship.

2) Your guess is as good as mine. They may be impervious to UNSC standards (Besides perhaps going overkill with a NOVA) as seen in the last cutscene of the halo 3 level The Storm. The new Evolutions story Wages of Sin, in which a Prophet in charge of reverse engineering Forerunner Relics, describes it as being "indestructible matrices of crystal, metal and plastic", possibly indicating invulnerability to the Covenants standards too. Or perhaps just religious rhetoric. It should be known however that the Covenant could not recreate these materials due to a lack of scientific understanding behind them, so that Prophet may be stating its indestructibility out of ignorance.

3) Forerunners could not have known everything about the Galaxy because they only discovered Humanity near the end of the Forerunner-Flood war.

4)Humans and Forerunner existed at the same time. They cannot be the same species. The whole Forerunner fascination with Humanity is that Humans have something about them that stumps even the Forerunner. Earth and its species are said to have been tampered with in the past with the signs being expertly hidden, even by the Forerunners standards. That is described in the Re-release of the Flood.

  • 12.11.2010 11:39 AM PDT

I don't care. I really don't.

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Posted by: anton1792
Thanks. Just one thing:
Posted by: anton1792
2) Your guess is as good as mine. They may be impervious to UNSC standards (Besides perhaps going overkill with a NOVA) as seen in the last cutscene of the halo 3 level The Storm.

I've always found that people think this is the game maker, but I never thought so. Thing is, we only see the Dreadnaut from a distance during that, and as we never see it again, it might very well be it was dented and looked like -blam!- when properly inspected, which we never get to do. But, I could be wrong.

  • 12.11.2010 11:49 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: Venator82
Posted by: opogjijijp
Posted by: anton1792
Thanks. Just one thing:
Posted by: anton1792
2) Your guess is as good as mine. They may be impervious to UNSC standards (Besides perhaps going overkill with a NOVA) as seen in the last cutscene of the halo 3 level The Storm.

I've always found that people think this is the game maker, but I never thought so. Thing is, we only see the Dreadnaut from a distance during that, and as we never see it again, it might very well be it was dented and looked like -blam!- when properly inspected, which we never get to do. But, I could be wrong.

It is a good point. Indeed we do not actually know the extent of the damage. There could have been other factors at work as well, such as shields. I was merely plating devils advocate there, and you know what fanboys are like: "It survived so it is obviously unscathed!" The Precursor arguments are my personal favourite to watch. :P

  • 12.11.2010 12:10 PM PDT