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Wake me when the jews are gone.

t's highly unlikely that earth was the least human world because there were hundreds and the Cole Protocol aplied to all colonies

  • 12.11.2010 12:28 PM PDT

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Yeah it was.

  • 12.11.2010 12:31 PM PDT

I don't care. I really don't.

When was it ever said it was the last? Of course there are others, just lower populations than what Earth ahd and of less importnace than humaity's homeworld.
For example, Sigma Octanus was still human held by the end of the War.

  • 12.11.2010 12:31 PM PDT

When your out of options, your trying the wrong options.

Also think of the planets behind earth. The covenant didn't surround earth they moved through human controlled space forwardly. Though thats just my guess, correct me if I'm wrong.

  • 12.11.2010 12:36 PM PDT

Not all the human colonies got glassed. As it happened though, Earth was the most important...

  • 12.11.2010 12:36 PM PDT

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Earth was pretty much the last one all the other few that existed were useless.

  • 12.11.2010 12:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: harbingerofhalo
Also think of the planets behind earth. The covenant didn't surround earth they moved through human controlled space forwardly. Though thats just my guess, correct me if I'm wrong.


Yeah. For example, Alpha Centauri. Although never mentioned more than its steaks in TFoR, it would have more mention if it had fallen to the Covenant (as it's our next door neighbor at 4.6 LY), and it is in a different direction from Epsilon Indi (first contact) and the other worlds attacked.

[Edited on 12.11.2010 1:17 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2010 12:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: harbingerofhalo
Also think of the planets behind earth. The covenant didn't surround earth they moved through human controlled space forwardly. Though thats just my guess, correct me if I'm wrong.


They did pretty much surround Earth. Looking at my map, they attacked colonies in all directions around Earth

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  • 12.11.2010 1:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: opogjijijp

They did pretty much surround Earth. Looking at my map, they attacked colonies in all directions around Earth


You do realie half those stars aren't really in those locations in the Halo universe. For example, Epsilon Indi is one of the farthest colonies, yet in reality it is where you put it; right on our doorstep.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but Bungie didn't exactly utilize real astronomy.

  • 12.11.2010 1:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Venator82

Posted by: opogjijijp

They did pretty much surround Earth. Looking at my map, they attacked colonies in all directions around Earth


You do realie half those stars aren't really in those locations in the Halo universe. For example, Epsilon Indi is one of the farthest colonies, yet in reality it is where you put it; right on our doorstep.


It explicitly stated that epsilon indi is 11.5 LY from Earth somewhere in Canon.

  • 12.11.2010 1:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: opogjijijp

It explicitly stated that epsilon indi is 11.5 LY from Earth somewhere in Canon.


Nope. The real one is 11.5 LY, whereas the Halo one is six weeks (aprox. 111.3 LY) via SlipSpace from Madrigal, which is the nearest colony, and Madrigal is 84 LY from Sol.
So it has to be at least 195.3 LY from Sol, about 16.98 times further than the real one.

OT: So, looking at how unrealistic the locations of Halo solar systems compared to the real ones it is more than likely that there are many worlds spared from the Coevenant, either bipassed (Alpha Centauri), humans reagined them (Sigma Octanus and Harvest) or were never encountered (whatever was behind Sol).

[Edited on 12.11.2010 1:45 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2010 1:42 PM PDT


Posted by: Venator82

Posted by: opogjijijp

It explicitly stated that epsilon indi is 11.5 LY from Earth somewhere in Canon.


Nope. The real one is 11.5 LY, whereas the Halo one is six weeks (aprox. 111.3 LY) via SlipSpace from Madrigal, which is the nearest colony, and Madrigal is 84 LY from Sol.
So it has to be at least 195.3 LY from Sol, about 16.98 times further than the real one.


Given Sol-Madrigal 84LY and Madrigal-Halo 111LY, Halo could be anywhere from 27 to 195 LY from Sol depending on the geometry.


Suppose that it's 1 mile from my house to a grocery story, and it's 1.05 miles from the grocery store to the house of my next-door neighbor. This is entirely possible, and does not imply that my next-door-neighbor's house is 2.05 miles from mine.

  • 12.11.2010 1:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tupolev

Given Sol-Madrigal 84LY and Madrigal-Halo 111LY, Halo could be anywhere from 27 to 195 LY from Sol depending on the geometry.


Suppose that it's 1 mile from my house to a grocery story, and it's 1.05 miles from the grocery store to the house of my next-door neighbor. This is entirely possible, and does not imply that my next-door-neighbor's house is 2.05 miles from mine.


Ah, but: it is two month from Reach (aprox. 157.5 LY), and Reach is 10.5 LY from Sol. Knowing this, Harvest is quite the distance away. Plus, Madrigal was the nearest colony.
So Harvest is still a ridiculous distance from where the real one should be, and knowing this we should not assume where any of the systems are. Also, Procyon is in reality only 11.41 LY from Sol, and yet only five days via SlipSpace from Harvest, meaning it is also in the wrong place (it also means this is incosistent with the canon, but that's no the point).

[Edited on 12.11.2010 2:00 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2010 1:55 PM PDT

It's the last major planet left. If Earth fell the other colonies would have been destroyed with probably little resistance. My guess is they will become major planets now that humanity needs places for ships yards and stuff.

  • 12.11.2010 3:19 PM PDT