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Subject: Why Didn't Noble Team Just Teleport the Corvette Into the Carrier?

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I was wondering why, instead of using Savannah's slipspace drive, they didn't just set the corvette's slipspace drive to teleport the ship into the supercarrier over Reach? They clearly knew how to operate the ship's controls if the could start the refueling sequence, and here it says it was slipspace capable.

I know Kat said about the whole "improperly mounted" thing, but the whole "matter fusing inside the carrier's reactor" thing when in comes out of slipspace should've done the job as well. And even if somehow they didn't know where the reactor was (even though they did, or how else did MC blow up the one in Halo 2?) they could set the reactor to overload, self destructing inside the carrier as well.

In short, if they did this, then both Jorge and the frigate would have most likely not died, and consequently the other members of Noble probably wouldn't have all died either.

  • 12.11.2010 1:35 PM PDT

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The UNSC strategits (-Keyes and Cole) are so smart as the Federation leaders

  • 12.11.2010 1:39 PM PDT
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Few reasons I came up with.
First, initializing a refueling sequence is presumably a lot simpler then calculating a slip space jump, not to mention a very short and precise one a that.

Second, Covenant slip space tech is good, but the precision need to jump right into the supper carrier would probably be too complex for Covie technology.

Third, I would imagine the Corvette has some sort of "auto pilot" that would prevent a slip space jump into a friendly carrier!

Finally, if you recall, Noble Six had to cripple the corvette's engines. This could have disabled slip space capability?

  • 12.11.2010 1:44 PM PDT

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Those targets are pretty close, and I don't think that the humans could calculate Slipspace jumps to that level of accuracy.

  • 12.11.2010 1:44 PM PDT

Surrender? I've never heard of such. Defeat? Not a possibility! Why...why I will fight and fight and fight, until I am victorious, or I am dead? Because that is who I am, and that is why I fight; everyone will see that, when I am proclaimed greatest among men.

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Posted by: Noobez
Few reasons I came up with.
First, initializing a refueling sequence is presumably a lot simpler then calculating a slip space jump, not to mention a very short and precise one a that.

Second, Covenant slip space tech is good, but the precision need to jump right into the supper carrier would probably be too complex for Covie technology.

Third, I would imagine the Corvette has some sort of "auto pilot" that would prevent a slip space jump into a friendly carrier!

Finally, if you recall, Noble Six had to cripple the corvette's engines. This could have disabled slip space capability?


On the second reply: Cortana mentions in the books Covie slipspace drives are capable of atomic-level precision, so that wouldn't be an issue.

4th: If the engines were destroyed, how would it even begin the refueling sequence?

If they just hijacked it, they could've used Savannah's AI (if the SS drive wasn't removed it probably wouldn't have entered the fight and been destroyed), to plot a course straight into the carrier. And I'd also like to think that because Spartans are actually pretty intelligent, that they'd know how to at least make a small jump into a 27 kilometer long supercarrier.

  • 12.11.2010 1:51 PM PDT

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HILARIOUS.
Would of worked fine.
Covenant slipspace accuracy is precise to lengths of a few yards.
BTW, the engines were DAMAGED. Not destroyed.

[Edited on 12.11.2010 2:03 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2010 2:02 PM PDT

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By the way just because the Covenant can Slipspace perfectly doesn't mean the Humans could do it. Just because they have an engine doesn't mean they can operate it to that level of accuracy, anyways the Covenant's AI or Engineers probably do all the calculations for it so there is no way for the humans to harness those resources.

  • 12.11.2010 2:11 PM PDT

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On the second reply: Cortana mentions in the books Covie slipspace drives are capable of atomic-level precision, so that wouldn't be an issue.

4th: If the engines were destroyed, how would it even begin the refueling sequence?

If they just hijacked it, they could've used Savannah's AI (if the SS drive wasn't removed it probably wouldn't have entered the fight and been destroyed), to plot a course straight into the carrier. And I'd also like to think that because Spartans are actually pretty intelligent, that they'd know how to at least make a small jump into a 27 kilometer long supercarrier.


While the technology was there for pinpoint slipspace travel, it wouldn't have been possible for Noble Team to have the knowledge of how to use it. I doubt Savannah had a smart AI on board to borrow for noble team for this proposed plan, and even if it did, it would be still unlikely it would have the time to engage in slipspace travel (I imagine sensors would be curious as to why a Covenant ship would activate its engine; I also imagine the Covenant wouldn't know how to react if they picked up a human slipspace engine's radiation on a Corvette).

And even if the Covenant weren't paying attention to sensors and if Savannah also stripped themselves of a smart AI they might have, it would still have to interact in an unknown, completely foreign system and attempt to overrule safety protocols that are only theoretical to humanity. So, there's that too.


And not as important, but for reason 4, they're only engaging the refueling routine/signal for the supercarrier to approach. It's not like they're actually going to refuel the Corvette before blowing it up.

[Edited on 12.11.2010 2:55 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2010 2:53 PM PDT

Surrender? I've never heard of such. Defeat? Not a possibility! Why...why I will fight and fight and fight, until I am victorious, or I am dead? Because that is who I am, and that is why I fight; everyone will see that, when I am proclaimed greatest among men.

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Posted by: AYF 001
On the second reply: Cortana mentions in the books Covie slipspace drives are capable of atomic-level precision, so that wouldn't be an issue.

4th: If the engines were destroyed, how would it even begin the refueling sequence?

If they just hijacked it, they could've used Savannah's AI (if the SS drive wasn't removed it probably wouldn't have entered the fight and been destroyed), to plot a course straight into the carrier. And I'd also like to think that because Spartans are actually pretty intelligent, that they'd know how to at least make a small jump into a 27 kilometer long supercarrier.


While the technology was there for pinpoint slipspace travel, it wouldn't have been possible for Noble Team to have the knowledge of how to use it. I doubt Savannah had a smart AI on board to borrow for noble team for this proposed plan, and even if it did, it would be still unlikely it would have the time to engage in slipspace travel (I imagine sensors would be curious as to why a Covenant ship would activate its engine; I also imagine the Covenant wouldn't know how to react if they picked up a human slipspace engine's radiation on a Corvette).

And even if the Covenant weren't paying attention to sensors and if Savannah also stripped themselves of a smart AI they might have, it would still have to interact in an unknown, completely foreign system and attempt to overrule safety protocols that are only theoretical to humanity. So, there's that too.


And not as important, but for reason 4, they're only engaging the refueling routine/signal for the supercarrier to approach. It's not like they're actually going to refuel the Corvette before blowing it up.

Hmm while those seem like valid points, one other question is why didn't they have a back up detonator? It's not like "Armageddon" never came out in the Halo universe, so why not have something for redundancy? On another note, why did it have to be the exact same way Forge died in Halo Wars?

  • 12.11.2010 3:25 PM PDT

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In the books, Cortana mentions that humans don't have the tech, nor the knowledge to accurately navigate slip'space, as the Covenant do.
To your second point, how do we know the Chief went to the reactor core in H2? It could've been the grav-beam control room. The bomb was designed with a massive explosion in mind. So the simple act of allowing it to detonate inside a Covenant ship would destroy enough critical systems to eventually destroy the Covenant carrier.

  • 12.12.2010 6:50 AM PDT