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Subject: John-117 Flashclone

"Sólo se combate por lo que se ama; solo se ama lo que se estima, y para estimar es necesario al menos conocer".
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is anyone interested as much i am to see him someday?

[Edited on 12.11.2010 10:37 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2010 10:37 PM PDT

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When would we see him, and flashclones die at young ages and do nothing, what's so interesting?

  • 12.11.2010 10:44 PM PDT

"Sólo se combate por lo que se ama; solo se ama lo que se estima, y para estimar es necesario al menos conocer".
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idk, i was just wondering :C

  • 12.11.2010 10:50 PM PDT

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idk, i was just wondering :C


Sorry, first post was harsh, but there is not much of a chance we will see the clone. The books don't mention it after them being created and dying, and John never meets him. Overall, I don't seeing it happen, who wants to see a sickly deformed clone anyways?

  • 12.11.2010 10:54 PM PDT

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The clone is dead.

  • 12.11.2010 10:54 PM PDT

Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
When would we see him, and flashclones die at young ages and do nothing, what's so interesting?

They usually die young because of the defects that usually manifest in them.
But John is lucky, who's to say his clone isn't too?

[Edited on 12.11.2010 11:07 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2010 11:06 PM PDT

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A possibility is that even with the timely demise of flash cloning, maybe his cloned counter-part was blessed with the same fate-bending luck that our Sierra 117 has. Maybe he too was lucky and survived all those years as a flash clone. Its a lofty idea.

  • 12.12.2010 6:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
When would we see him, and flashclones die at young ages and do nothing, what's so interesting?

They usually die young because of the defects that usually manifest in them.
But John is lucky, who's to say his clone isn't too?

I was about to say that! John was super lucky and super tough. So why wouldnt his clone be too?

  • 12.12.2010 6:36 AM PDT

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halsey said some flash clone are predictided to live a normal life span

  • 12.12.2010 6:37 AM PDT

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well it never actually says his flash clone died so the clone may still be alive

  • 12.12.2010 6:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lethal God428
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
When would we see him, and flashclones die at young ages and do nothing, what's so interesting?

They usually die young because of the defects that usually manifest in them.
But John is lucky, who's to say his clone isn't too?

I was about to say that! John was super lucky and super tough. So why wouldnt his clone be too?


Because that would be one of the worst plot devices ever, flash clones have a lifespan of a few months at best. Halo Evolutions: Palace Hotel pretty much tells us his flash clone died anyway.

  • 12.12.2010 7:14 AM PDT

there is no such thing as luck.

John got where he was because Overall he is a brilliant Spartan.

  • 12.12.2010 7:52 AM PDT

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Daisy's flash clone lasted pretty long, and she didn't seem sick at all, just disabled.

  • 12.12.2010 8:12 AM PDT

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Lethal God428
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
When would we see him, and flashclones die at young ages and do nothing, what's so interesting?

They usually die young because of the defects that usually manifest in them.
But John is lucky, who's to say his clone isn't too?

I was about to say that! John was super lucky and super tough. So why wouldnt his clone be too?


Because that would be one of the worst plot devices ever, flash clones have a lifespan of a few months at best. Halo Evolutions: Palace Hotel pretty much tells us his flash clone died anyway.

No, they usually develop complications but that's not a 100% sure thing.
That's exactly like saying nobody dies from cancer.

  • 12.12.2010 9:45 PM PDT
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Well, Cortana said she picked him because he had luck. Also, I sometimes wonder, does John ever thought about his family? Does he even remembers it?

  • 12.12.2010 9:56 PM PDT

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His clone isnt mentioned in any of the books, but someone from is past is in one of the Evolutions stories...

She's a Lieutenant that John runs into whilst on the way to take down a scarab, and she remembers John as a 6 year old swam out to save her & told her he'd marry her one day but that he 'passed away' so I'm not sure how much scope for another clone John there is?

(if we wanted to go completely CRAZY with conspiracy, you could theorize that the clone did have the same tendency for luck, was selected for the SPARTAN III project and became.... *drum roll* Noble 6)

  • 12.12.2010 10:47 PM PDT
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Would a flash clone even work on someone so heavy biologically augmented, and then turned into something partly cyborg?

Should it work, would it even have have the awesome injecetd into John?

  • 12.13.2010 9:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Lethal God428
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Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
When would we see him, and flashclones die at young ages and do nothing, what's so interesting?

They usually die young because of the defects that usually manifest in them.
But John is lucky, who's to say his clone isn't too?

I was about to say that! John was super lucky and super tough. So why wouldnt his clone be too?


Because that would be one of the worst plot devices ever, flash clones have a lifespan of a few months at best. Halo Evolutions: Palace Hotel pretty much tells us his flash clone died anyway.

No, they usually develop complications but that's not a 100% sure thing.
That's exactly like saying nobody dies from cancer.


You don't understand flash cloning, do you? Flash cloning a human is pretty much modifying a cloned human embryo to make it develop a hundred times faster than normal. Because of this, flash clones have biological defects which cannot be corrected. After about a month they begin to suffer from metabolic cascade failure and die because of neurological disorders.

This is why flash cloning is unethical in the Halo universe, this is why it was declared illegal. Because those subject to it DIE, there are no exceptions.

  • 12.13.2010 10:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: Rawk to the Fist
When would we see him, and flashclones die at young ages and do nothing, what's so interesting?

They usually die young because of the defects that usually manifest in them.
But John is lucky, who's to say his clone isn't too?

I was about to say that! John was super lucky and super tough. So why wouldnt his clone be too?


Because that would be one of the worst plot devices ever, flash clones have a lifespan of a few months at best. Halo Evolutions: Palace Hotel pretty much tells us his flash clone died anyway.
Not forgetting that Ackerson had the bodies of S-II flash clones exhumed for examination. A still-living clone would have made a major page heading, which means that without Reach-sized retcons, it ain't gonna happen.

  • 12.13.2010 10:27 AM PDT

On the topic of Daisy's clone. I know she would have eventually died, but at the time she seemed severely disabled (speech, movement, mental and such) I was always under the impression that the UNSC killed her to keep the SPARTAN program under wraps. (She would have died eventually though)

  • 12.13.2010 1:26 PM PDT
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johns clone did die its in the books

  • 12.13.2010 5:37 PM PDT

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
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Posted by: Lethal God428
Posted by: Jak O Bladez

They usually die young because of the defects that usually manifest in them.
But John is lucky, who's to say his clone isn't too?

I was about to say that! John was super lucky and super tough. So why wouldnt his clone be too?


Because that would be one of the worst plot devices ever, flash clones have a lifespan of a few months at best. Halo Evolutions: Palace Hotel pretty much tells us his flash clone died anyway.

No, they usually develop complications but that's not a 100% sure thing.
That's exactly like saying nobody dies from cancer.


You don't understand flash cloning, do you? Flash cloning a human is pretty much modifying a cloned human embryo to make it develop a hundred times faster than normal. Because of this, flash clones have biological defects which cannot be corrected. After about a month they begin to suffer from metabolic cascade failure and die because of neurological disorders.

This is why flash cloning is unethical in the Halo universe, this is why it was declared illegal. Because those subject to it DIE, there are no exceptions.

You don't understand flash cloning do you?
They aren't cloned with defects, and the books specifically state that they usually develop disorders and die early.

  • 12.13.2010 8:31 PM PDT

What a waste....

It died. They said so in Evolutions.

  • 12.13.2010 9:00 PM PDT

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The flashclones all died within a few years....he would be old now if you're going by the timeline of Halo 3. Master Chiefs still alive so I'm just waiting to get reacquainted.

  • 12.13.2010 9:14 PM PDT

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At the end of Halo3, as we all know MC and Cortona end up in a mystery place. Perhaps this place is shrouded in ancient technology. Perhaps Cortona finds cloning methods that work on this planet. Perhaps there are a horde of John 117 and a rampant Cortona just waiting to seek MAYHEM. * METAL GUITAR SOLO KICKS IN

  • 12.14.2010 5:53 AM PDT