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Subject: ME universe vs. Halo universe: why ME would win

What a waste....

One word:

Precursors.

  • 12.12.2010 6:52 PM PDT

Anti-Teabag self-destruct mechanisms ftw

I dont want to take a side, but what would happen if the flood could control the organic parts of the reapers?

And, to take a side, I would say that the forerunners would manage to take the reapers no problem since they had weapons that could shoot through slipspace and re-enter normal space inside of a ship or anything else for that matter.

(I cannot remember what this is from but there was a forerunner station that was to protect their maginot sphere. It shot flood infected ships out of slipspace but the actual station was in normal space)

  • 12.12.2010 7:29 PM PDT

The Protoss would destroy them all.

  • 12.12.2010 7:42 PM PDT
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1: As mentioned, the Precursors and/or The FLood beat everything.


2: The Reapers kill off a few million Londoners in a few weeks. The Covies would've had the city glassed by then.

Now, the Reapers do beat out most everyone save for the Forerunner and Precursors ship for ship, but the Covies totally have the edge over any ME faction in balls-out planetary fireballing, if what little we've seen from the Reapers is any indication.

  • 12.12.2010 8:07 PM PDT

Posted by: FleetAdmiralBob
1: As mentioned, the Precursors and/or The FLood beat everything.


2: The Reapers kill off a few million Londoners in a few weeks. The Covies would've had the city glassed by then.

Now, the Reapers do beat out most everyone save for the Forerunner and Precursors ship for ship, but the Covies totally have the edge over any ME faction in balls-out planetary fireballing, if what little we've seen from the Reapers is any indication.

I was thinking the Reapers wanted to torment Shep
So they did it slowly
Also can Precursors make their ships ghost ride the Big Ben
No?

  • 12.12.2010 8:17 PM PDT

Ha, me and my friend had a conversation about this before. i said halo would win. mostly because the covenant could destroy most alien races. and for the reapers, remember that derelict reaper where you find legion? it was taking out by weapons similar to mac cannons, so i think they halo humans are much better than the M.E humans.
also, if you take out the relays, they will be stranded in the general area they are at, while the halo universe can use slip space.

Edit: also, since your argument is mostly for reapers, they know the technology that almost the entire universe uses because they set them up. the are resistant to it and just destroys everything there. We have no idea if superheated plasma with do alot of damage or be as effective as the energy weapons mass effect uses. and as i said before, mac cannons will probably be much more effective.

[Edited on 12.12.2010 8:47 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2010 8:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Austin lax16

Covenant cruisers?

A reaper is twice the size of one, and there are thousands of super-powerful reapers.


Where do you get that?
I think the super carriers are bigger than reapers, mostly because of the halo reach size, compared to the mass effect 3 trailer.

  • 12.12.2010 8:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Lokis Paralax
Posted by: Austin lax16

Covenant cruisers?

A reaper is twice the size of one, and there are thousands of super-powerful reapers.


Where do you get that?
I think the super carriers are bigger than reapers, mostly because of the halo reach size, compared to the mass effect 3 trailer.

Covie carrier was about 28km long
CCS is about about one and a half Km
Reapers are said to be Two Km
The reapers are not much bigger than the CCS
but they have a weapon advantage imo

  • 12.12.2010 8:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Lokis Paralax
Ha, me and my friend had a conversation about this before. i said halo would win. mostly because the covenant could destroy most alien races. and for the reapers, remember that derelict reaper where you find legion? it was taking out by weapons similar to mac cannons, so i think they halo humans are much better than the M.E humans.
also, if you take out the relays, they will be stranded in the general area they are at, while the halo universe can use slip space.

Edit: also, since your argument is mostly for reapers, they know the technology that almost the entire universe uses because they set them up. the are resistant to it and just destroys everything there. We have no idea if superheated plasma with do alot of damage or be as effective as the energy weapons mass effect uses. and as i said before, mac cannons will probably be much more effective.

ME has FTL drives
Which is faster than Slipspace and that Dead Reaper was said to be the last action of that species before the Reapers killed them

  • 12.12.2010 8:51 PM PDT

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FORRUNERS.

[Edited on 12.12.2010 9:00 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2010 9:00 PM PDT
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Covie carrier was about 28km long

The supercarrier appeared to be 27km. Assault Carriers are ~5km, carriers are less than 2 IIRC.

ME has FTL drives
Which is faster than Slipspace


Only faster than Human slipspace. UNSC can't go faster than ~2.7 ly/day, ME has been stated to do 12 ly in 'a days cruise', Covenant have been shown to go over 900 ly/day, and the Forerunner drives are faster than Covenant, judging by travel times to and from Delta Halo.

  • 12.12.2010 9:13 PM PDT

Posted by: SCARFACE71795
Posted by: Lokis Paralax
Ha, me and my friend had a conversation about this before. i said halo would win. mostly because the covenant could destroy most alien races. and for the reapers, remember that derelict reaper where you find legion? it was taking out by weapons similar to mac cannons, so i think they halo humans are much better than the M.E humans.
also, if you take out the relays, they will be stranded in the general area they are at, while the halo universe can use slip space.

Edit: also, since your argument is mostly for reapers, they know the technology that almost the entire universe uses because they set them up. the are resistant to it and just destroys everything there. We have no idea if superheated plasma with do alot of damage or be as effective as the energy weapons mass effect uses. and as i said before, mac cannons will probably be much more effective.

ME has FTL drives
Which is faster than Slipspace and that Dead Reaper was said to be the last action of that species before the Reapers killed them


1. Hell to the NO. Slipspace>FTL. Only reason ME can fly all over the galaxy is because of the Mass Relays. Even then, Mass Relays can only interconnect, they cannot drop ships out in the space between relays.

2. There are many unknowns- the weapon only had enough power for one shot, the weapon fired once and [the weapon] was made of insufficient materials which were destroyed upon firing [weapon shook itself to pieces], the weapon was rushed into service, the weapon had a $#!tty reloading time and the Reapers rushed en masse to destroy the weapon before it could fire again...

  • 12.12.2010 9:18 PM PDT

Posted by: opogjijijp
Covie carrier was about 28km long

The supercarrier appeared to be 27km. Assault Carriers are ~5km, carriers are less than 2 IIRC.

ME has FTL drives
Which is faster than Slipspace


Only faster than Human slipspace. UNSC can't go faster than ~2.7 ly/day, ME has been stated to do 12 ly in 'a days cruise', Covenant have been shown to go over 900 ly/day, and the Forerunner drives are faster than Covenant, judging by travel times to and from Delta Halo.

I was only a KM off
As for the second i was under the impression of ten for the Covies due to the UNSC Gettysburg and i was never sure about the Forerunners speed but figured it to be quite fast
Although i was referring to ME FTL being faster than Human slipspace
But 900 light years a day?
Wow just Wow

  • 12.12.2010 9:33 PM PDT

Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: SCARFACE71795
Posted by: Lokis Paralax
Ha, me and my friend had a conversation about this before. i said halo would win. mostly because the covenant could destroy most alien races. and for the reapers, remember that derelict reaper where you find legion? it was taking out by weapons similar to mac cannons, so i think they halo humans are much better than the M.E humans.
also, if you take out the relays, they will be stranded in the general area they are at, while the halo universe can use slip space.

Edit: also, since your argument is mostly for reapers, they know the technology that almost the entire universe uses because they set them up. the are resistant to it and just destroys everything there. We have no idea if superheated plasma with do alot of damage or be as effective as the energy weapons mass effect uses. and as i said before, mac cannons will probably be much more effective.

ME has FTL drives
Which is faster than Slipspace and that Dead Reaper was said to be the last action of that species before the Reapers killed them


1. Hell to the NO. Slipspace>FTL. Only reason ME can fly all over the galaxy is because of the Mass Relays. Even then, Mass Relays can only interconnect, they cannot drop ships out in the space between relays.

2. There are many unknowns- the weapon only had enough power for one shot, the weapon fired once and [the weapon] was made of insufficient materials which were destroyed upon firing [weapon shook itself to pieces], the weapon was rushed into service, the weapon had a $#!tty reloading time and the Reapers rushed en masse to destroy the weapon before it could fire again...

WAIT
Me thinks that weapon is how we will take back Earth in ME3

  • 12.12.2010 9:34 PM PDT

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FORERUNNERS.

And
The covenant would glass Mass Effect.

[Edited on 12.12.2010 9:36 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2010 9:36 PM PDT
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I was only a KM off

Wasn't sure if you were talking about the supercarrier or regular carrier. But you're correct, there's not too much difference between 27 or 28 km when the things already huge. There's plenty of uncertainty in the measurement anyway.

But 900 light years a day?
Wow just Wow


It comes from Ghosts of Onyx, where a Covenant destroyer makes the 38 light year trip to Zeta Doradus in under 1 hour.

  • 12.12.2010 9:38 PM PDT

Posted by: opogjijijp
I was only a KM off

Wasn't sure if you were talking about the supercarrier or regular carrier. But you're correct, there's not too much difference between 27 or 28 km when the things already huge. There's plenty of uncertainty in the measurement anyway.

But 900 light years a day?
Wow just Wow


It comes from Ghosts of Onyx, where a Covenant destroyer makes the 38 light year trip to Zeta Doradus in under 1 hour.

I just can't believe that
Imagine how hard it is for us to even find just a concept to be able to reach One light year a day if it's even possible

  • 12.12.2010 9:41 PM PDT

Reapers are too overpowered for anyone to beat an entire fleet.
The can move faster than anything, and each tendril shoots a super accurate lazer.
A better comparison would be ME vs Gundam.

  • 12.12.2010 9:53 PM PDT

Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Reapers are too overpowered for anyone to beat an entire fleet.
The can move faster than anything, and each tendril shoots a super accurate lazer.


Have the Reapers face off against the Tau'ri post S5 of Stargate: Atlantis. The Reapers would get stomped.

Multi-Gigaton/Teraton>>>>>>>>>> triple kiloton/single megaton. And I know UNSC MACs can achieve [weakest] double digit megaton. The 1.17 teraton figure is BS though.

  • 12.12.2010 11:33 PM PDT

GROSSMAN: Do you think of the Culture as a utopia? Would you live in it, if you could?

BANKS: Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.

KOTOR

Halo would probably demolish ME, but anyway, on to the real reason for this post:

The ME Relay network is like a Hypergun type thing, yes? In that it catapults ships across the galaxy, yes? If I remember rightly the one at the other end is to slow the ship down? So, why not aim a mass relay at a planet, insert one decent sized asteroid, accelerate it through the mass free corridor, and let it's mass do the rest.

In layman's terms: Accelerate an asteroid to faster than lightspeed, and it will have the mass of a large planet when it reaches it's destination.

How would the UNSC cope when Earth/Reach gets ripped in two?

  • 12.13.2010 1:18 AM PDT

My name: rufemee comes from the Elite Heritic leader: Sesa Refumee
But I spelt the name wrong


Posted by: Austin lax16
Bottom line: Mass Effect's Reapers > anything Halo has.

I believe that you are forgetting the forerunner dreadnaught fleet from Halo wars. With a forerunner fleet of that size the battle wouldn't last very long.

  • 12.13.2010 1:48 AM PDT

A grunt could beat an army of reapers.

  • 12.13.2010 1:50 AM PDT

Posted by: Orphius_Rex
Halo would probably demolish ME, but anyway, on to the real reason for this post:

The ME Relay network is like a Hypergun type thing, yes? In that it catapults ships across the galaxy, yes? If I remember rightly the one at the other end is to slow the ship down? So, why not aim a mass relay at a planet, insert one decent sized asteroid, accelerate it through the mass free corridor, and let it's mass do the rest.

In layman's terms: Accelerate an asteroid to faster than lightspeed, and it will have the mass of a large planet when it reaches it's destination.

How would the UNSC cope when Earth/Reach gets ripped in two?


I think the Mass Relay cannot be aimed at an area where there is not another Mass Relay. Redundancies FTW.

  • 12.13.2010 4:52 AM PDT

"Question. Which Spartan is best?"
"That's a ridiculous question."
"False. Master Chief."
"Well, that's debatable. There are basically two schools of thought."
"Spartans shoot Sangheili. Spartans. Sangheili.....Battle Star Galactica."


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Posted by: Austin lax16
Master Chief would die faster than you can say Candlejack five ti

Master Chief doesn't know what the word "die" means.


He's a smart guy, I'm pretty sure he does know what that means.

  • 12.13.2010 5:19 AM PDT

come on guys, even the OP said Halo would win, no need to continue a pointless argument (he also wanted this thread to die in peace remember)

  • 12.13.2010 5:20 AM PDT

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