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Subject: ME universe vs. Halo universe: why ME would win

Wake me when the jews are gone.

all of you seen the ME 3 trailer in one week they done that in one week the covenant would glassed the holl country and more

  • 12.13.2010 7:07 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

ME has Councillor Valern, his air quotes would quell any army standing against him.

  • 12.13.2010 8:23 AM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
come on guys, even the OP said Halo would win, no need to continue a pointless argument (he also wanted this thread to die in peace remember)

I quote this so it does not get lost.

Seriously people, enough is enough, let this die, do it for the OP!

  • 12.13.2010 8:29 AM PDT

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Reapers arent that big compared to Covie tech. Sovereign was only a few kilometres long. With that in mind Covenant Assault Carriers are much much bigger, let alone facilities like Unyielding Hierophant, High Charity or the Long Night of Solace.

  • 12.13.2010 2:08 PM PDT

Halo would destroy the living part of the Reapers. Or the Flood would infect everything and outnumber the Reapers by millions.

  • 12.13.2010 2:36 PM PDT
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I agree that the halo universe would beat the ME universe but the one truley dominant universe is the bioshock universe

  • 12.13.2010 2:49 PM PDT


Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
UNSC MACs are kiloton - megaton range, not gigaton, gigatons are stupidly powerful, you could destroy something like france with a gigaton worth of energy, not a mere spacecraft.

They are variable. A 343I employee, when asked about the messed up MAC figures (Why there where so many), gave the answer that there are different models. I would guess that it depends on the ship. (Longer ship means longer coils in the MAC barrel, and a larger reactor to power them).

So a Marathon class cruiser would have higher yields than a Frigate etc.

Second post - Look for user called Vociferous.


don't worry, came to the conclusion that larger ships housed more powerful MACs, its simple proportions. thing is we have no idea how long the MAC is on the frigate (which is meant to fire rounds at 35,000 m/s supposidly) or how long the MAC on the autumn for example is, only thing we know is how big the ships are and then maybe we can extrapolate the length of the barrels. gonna be simplistic and scale them linearly, so would conclude the MAC on the autumn is twice the length of the frigate version, due to the ship being ~twice the length of the frigate, even if you scale the muzzle velocity in the same way you still end up with the bigger, more powerful MAC firing rounds at 70,000 m/s (70 km/s) or something pathetic like 1/4286th the speed of light, with an estimated energy of ~550 kilotons give or take. so what im trying to say is maybe, just maybe the MACs on bigger cruisers will just squeeze into the megaton range (couldn't imagine them being any higher than one megaton, tops) theres no change they will be in the gigaton or teraton range.

we have to make a couple of assumptions for my workings above 1) that the two MACs fire the same type of projectile, i.e. same mass, 2) muzzle velocity scales linearly with accelerator length and 3) more energy isn't used for the larger cruisers, the reason i think this is because fusion reactors are pretty powerful, hell the holy grail of modern physics so i don't see how the frigate reactor could be remotely 'underpowering' its cannon, if you get what i mean...! the megaton figure is based on double the barrel length and around 40% power increase from the frigate based MAC.

  • 12.13.2010 4:54 PM PDT


Posted by: Austin lax16

Posted by: EliteXx27
Mister Chief would wreck an army of reapers.

Master Chief would die faster than you can say Candlejack five ti

Master Chief went like 777,777,777 and 0 against the covenant so no. Also, if you include the Precursors from the Halo universe then you lose because the Precursors could bend reality as we know it. Not only could they speed up and cause evolution but could also move freely through different dimensions. You can't shoot something if it's not even in your galaxy let alone your dimension

[Edited on 12.13.2010 5:36 PM PST]

  • 12.13.2010 5:35 PM PDT
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As if this really matters.

Guys, you're forgetting...

Alien sex > No sex whatsoever

  • 12.13.2010 5:56 PM PDT

1 Covenant Supercarrier is over 27km long, thats bigger than a Super Star destroyer! Over 7 glassing beam's which is virtually as strong as a Nova Bomb compact in a beam. Halo would kill reapers as the half organic life would be killed, reapers running on just its inorganic section wouldn't work.

  • 12.13.2010 6:51 PM PDT


Posted by: SCARFACE71795
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Posted by: Austin lax16

Covenant cruisers?

A reaper is twice the size of one, and there are thousands of super-powerful reapers.


Where do you get that?
I think the super carriers are bigger than reapers, mostly because of the halo reach size, compared to the mass effect 3 trailer.

Covie carrier was about 28km long
CCS is about about one and a half Km
Reapers are said to be Two Km
The reapers are not much bigger than the CCS
but they have a weapon advantage imo
We are able to use the Thanix Canon to accurately determine the output of Reapers' primary weapon, mostly because it is made directly from it.

UNSC MAC Weaponry outdoes the Thanix Cannon by far when it comes to firepower.

  • 12.13.2010 7:19 PM PDT


Posted by: SCARFACE71795
WAIT
Me thinks that weapon is how we will take back Earth in ME3
It was said that Cerberus found it in the information of the Dead Reaper. They concluded that it was too heavily damaged to be reverse engineered.

  • 12.13.2010 7:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Seraphim
You barely brought up any supporting facts for your reasons, but it is your opinion.

Ships sizes don't really matter, however. A Reaper is 2 kilometers long, where as a normal CCS cruiser or even a UNSC Halcyon class cruiser is a little longer than a kilometer. The size isn't much of a difference between them.

The Covenant Assault Carrier is almost 5 times the size of a Reaper, and a Supercarrier is 14 times its length.

Also, Covenant shields are Superior to Kinetic barriers, as they utilize Cold plasma. UNSC MAC rounds would also pierce Kinetic barriers with relative ease. SMAC's would likely rip a Reaper in pieces with one shell.

In terms of backstory, they're both great games, which can't be compared on much.

In my opinion, Nova Bomb > Everything in Mass effect ( Although, we have yet to see Mass Effect 3. )


I'm glad I read through the comments before I post, because this guy and I would've said the same.

Actually, ship size would benefit the smaller of the two (Covenant and UNSC for smaller ships to swarm the larger=easier boarding of larger) and, seeing that done, Reapers would be wiped with one NOVA or even Shiva (possibly). Though a MAC and SMAC would tear their ships to pieces.

The Reapers are a great species and I must respect them but the Covenant rely on Forerunner technology which is far advanced. When is Mass Effect's future time? A couple hundred years? Halo's is just about 500 years advanced but the Covenant's is almost triple that because of the Forerunners.

OP< I like how you stated that.

  • 12.13.2010 7:35 PM PDT

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GAWD DAMMIT!!!

FORERUNNERS!!!!!
PRECURSORS!!!!!!!!!!!
WUT R U TALKING ABOUTS, COVENANT AND REAPERS DO NOT MIX.

  • 12.13.2010 8:05 PM PDT

Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Reapers are too overpowered for anyone to beat an entire fleet.
The can move faster than anything, and each tendril shoots a super accurate lazer.


Have the Reapers face off against the Tau'ri post S5 of Stargate: Atlantis. The Reapers would get stomped.

Multi-Gigaton/Teraton>>>>>>>>>> triple kiloton/single megaton. And I know UNSC MACs can achieve [weakest] double digit megaton. The 1.17 teraton figure is BS though.

The Reapers can shear anything in to pieces in half a second at any range, how can anything beat that?

  • 12.13.2010 8:40 PM PDT

Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Reapers are too overpowered for anyone to beat an entire fleet.
The can move faster than anything, and each tendril shoots a super accurate lazer.


Have the Reapers face off against the Tau'ri post S5 of Stargate: Atlantis. The Reapers would get stomped.

Multi-Gigaton/Teraton>>>>>>>>>> triple kiloton/single megaton. And I know UNSC MACs can achieve [weakest] double digit megaton. The 1.17 teraton figure is BS though.

The Reapers can shear anything in to pieces in half a second at any range, how can anything beat that?


Against shields that can barely take triple kilotons, yes. Against shields that can tank a solar flare, no.

  • 12.13.2010 9:15 PM PDT

Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Reapers are too overpowered for anyone to beat an entire fleet.
The can move faster than anything, and each tendril shoots a super accurate lazer.


Have the Reapers face off against the Tau'ri post S5 of Stargate: Atlantis. The Reapers would get stomped.

Multi-Gigaton/Teraton>>>>>>>>>> triple kiloton/single megaton. And I know UNSC MACs can achieve [weakest] double digit megaton. The 1.17 teraton figure is BS though.

The Reapers can shear anything in to pieces in half a second at any range, how can anything beat that?


Against shields that can barely take triple kilotons, yes. Against shields that can tank a solar flare, no.

Could you please explain the theory besides the shields you refer to from Stargate?
Like are they kinetic barriers etc?

  • 12.13.2010 9:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Reapers are too overpowered for anyone to beat an entire fleet.
The can move faster than anything, and each tendril shoots a super accurate lazer.


Have the Reapers face off against the Tau'ri post S5 of Stargate: Atlantis. The Reapers would get stomped.

Multi-Gigaton/Teraton>>>>>>>>>> triple kiloton/single megaton. And I know UNSC MACs can achieve [weakest] double digit megaton. The 1.17 teraton figure is BS though.

The Reapers can shear anything in to pieces in half a second at any range, how can anything beat that?


Against shields that can barely take triple kilotons, yes. Against shields that can tank a solar flare, no.

Could you please explain the theory besides the shields you refer to from Stargate?
Like are they kinetic barriers etc?

Nope, the SG shields are energy-based. AKA like Halo. Therefore SG already has an advantage against Mass Effect.

Also, phase-shifting tech. Weapons that ignore shields altogether. Black hole bombs [isa device]. Instant transmission [wormhole drive, though this takes an assload of power, almost three entire fully charged Zero Point Modules-the power level of a GALAXY inside a crystal about the size of a two-litre Pepsi bottle].

  • 12.13.2010 11:23 PM PDT

I've got a question, who would win between Admiral Hackett and Lord Hood? Both are men who wake up in the morning and eat a bowl of nails drenched in diesel fuel. Both are men who only need to look at a woman to get her to sleep with them.

  • 12.13.2010 11:42 PM PDT

Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt


Have the Reapers face off against the Tau'ri post S5 of Stargate: Atlantis. The Reapers would get stomped.

Multi-Gigaton/Teraton>>>>>>>>>> triple kiloton/single megaton. And I know UNSC MACs can achieve [weakest] double digit megaton. The 1.17 teraton figure is BS though.

The Reapers can shear anything in to pieces in half a second at any range, how can anything beat that?


Against shields that can barely take triple kilotons, yes. Against shields that can tank a solar flare, no.

Could you please explain the theory besides the shields you refer to from Stargate?
Like are they kinetic barriers etc?

Nope, the SG shields are energy-based. AKA like Halo. Therefore SG already has an advantage against Mass Effect.

Also, phase-shifting tech. Weapons that ignore shields altogether. Black hole bombs [isa device]. Instant transmission [wormhole drive, though this takes an assload of power, almost three entire fully charged Zero Point Modules-the power level of a GALAXY inside a crystal about the size of a two-litre Pepsi bottle].

Ok, so I thought Mass Effect was ridiculous.
You win buddy.

  • 12.14.2010 3:49 AM PDT


Posted by: V3rin
Q > all


Q=Precursors.

God DAMN now I want to see that fight :D

  • 12.14.2010 5:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: KSI SC Matt
Posted by: Jak O Bladez

The Reapers can shear anything in to pieces in half a second at any range, how can anything beat that?


Against shields that can barely take triple kilotons, yes. Against shields that can tank a solar flare, no.

Could you please explain the theory besides the shields you refer to from Stargate?
Like are they kinetic barriers etc?

Nope, the SG shields are energy-based. AKA like Halo. Therefore SG already has an advantage against Mass Effect.

Also, phase-shifting tech. Weapons that ignore shields altogether. Black hole bombs [isa device]. Instant transmission [wormhole drive, though this takes an assload of power, almost three entire fully charged Zero Point Modules-the power level of a GALAXY inside a crystal about the size of a two-litre Pepsi bottle].

Ok, so I thought Mass Effect was ridiculous.
You win buddy.

That "ridiculous" tech is the technological achievements of the Ancients/Asgard/Nox-

the Ancients are Stargate's version of the Forerunners, but have now ascended to a higher plane of existence. [Like the Precursors? OMG the Precursors are Ancients lol.]

The Asgard stuck around and inadvertently landed on a planet with mechanical insect-like inhabitants. These "bugs" quickly overran the Asgard scout ship and killed the crew, then adapted the technology to its own-starting a centuries-long war. The Isa device was a rogue Asgard's creation. Using it on any star system overrun by Replicators, its function was to speed up time inside a 10km section of space[usually inside a star, making the fusion[?] process occur within a few seconds rater then millennia] Within 10 seconds, the sun goes supernova. Then about two minutes later, collapses upon itself, creating a black hole. And, using the Asgard core ["matter assembler"], which can create almost everything from base molecules [for some reason, functional ZPMs can't be created this way], ANY Asgard ship can have access to this superweapon in a few [read: five] minutes. Even with all this tech, they eventually reached a point where continous cloning of their bodies no longer worked, due to a biological virus the Replicators introduced in the middle of the war, causing the effect of diminishing returns to occur much sooner then it would. Their entire race [at least, the ones in the Ida galaxy] died at the end of SG-1 S10... but not before giving the Tau'ri [that's us] ALL of their technology. ALL of it. The Asgard Beam Weapons, the Asgard transporter technology, the Asgard computer core [the entire history of the Asgard], the "matter assembler" with blueprints to ALL Asgard technology...

The Nox are space hippies. They WILL NOT FIGHT, but when you can put an entire planet out of phase, and cloak an entire solar system [including the sun]... you don't need to fight.

Ancient Alliance = or > Forerunners
Ascended Ancients = or < Precursors

  • 12.14.2010 7:38 AM PDT

considering a plasma pistol (anything plasma) could breach the reapers defences... ill have to say ur wrong

[Edited on 12.14.2010 11:20 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2010 11:20 AM PDT
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The Halo Array would kill the organic part of the Reapers, rending them useless. Muahaha.

  • 12.14.2010 11:28 AM PDT

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