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Subject: The 2nd Best Spartan-II?

i can only count to jagermeister.

Noble 6.

Boom.

  • 12.21.2010 4:12 PM PDT

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  • 12.21.2010 4:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: forthnback
The four best leaders, according to Halsey's Journal, were John, Fred, Kurt, and Jerome (Halo Wars).

As for best Spartan, it's hard to quantify. Best in what? Will would beat Linda hand to hand, but would get destroyed in a sniping contest. Fred could outdo Samuel with knives, but Samuel would have no trouble outdoing him in raw strength.

If you are going for a series of tests, to determine who is the best Spartan for an assortment of situations, then that is Fred. According to canon, and John's own assessment, Fred was the best Spartan.

Fred came in second place in every contest, but John theorized that was because he chose not to win. Fred didn't like attention. Halsey's statement that only one other Spartan was considered hyper-lethal (in addition to Noble Six) would refer most likely to John.....but also to Fred, had he not intentionally lowered his qualifiers in all tests.



Glad someone realizes this. But John can't really be a hyper lethal vector since he's not even the best Spartan-II, let alone being a great lone wolf.

  • 12.21.2010 4:47 PM PDT

spartan 029 joshua.(RED ONE)
he was one of the first spartans to survive augmentation. halsey described him as the most talented individual, and an exceptional recruit for the spartan program when he was six years old. he was the most experienced spartan leader (lead red team) he saved fred, kelly, and linda on multiple occasions, for example: the unresponsive pelican incident. was able to boot up and slow down the EMP shocked pelican carrying the whole team while they were spiraling to the ground. sadly, he was last seen piloting a heavily damaged banshee into the thickest part of the winter contingency. (listed MIA)

  • 12.21.2010 4:51 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

John is the second best, Kurt was infinitely better.

  • 12.21.2010 5:44 PM PDT

Whens there's no one to turn to, just aim ahead


Posted by: privet caboose
Fred was better than John in every category. John's only advantage was that he was lucky.

Fred was the second best "in everything" It's said he could have been the best if he wanted, he just wanted the attention.


Fred wasn't a natural leader like John was though.

  • 12.21.2010 6:13 PM PDT
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Well, in terms of sheer strength, Soren-066 was the strongest, but the whole leg issue and defecting kinda ruined it for him.

Perhaps we should take the question as: "Besides John, which Spartan-II was the most crucial in winning the Human-Covenant war?"

[Edited on 12.21.2010 6:24 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2010 6:21 PM PDT

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Linda is a pretty cool guy

She snipes Elites out of banshees whilst hanging upside down from a moving cable and she doesn't afraid of anything.


Can't beat it.

  • 12.21.2010 6:48 PM PDT

If you cannot lead by example , intimidate.

Either Kurt or Fred, Maybe Linda cause her El3tez Pwn0rz3 Sn1pinG Sl1lls! or Kelly cause I like the Pilot helmet.

  • 12.21.2010 9:22 PM PDT

Posted by: forthnback
The four best leaders, according to Halsey's Journal, were John, Fred, Kurt, and Jerome (Halo Wars).

As for best Spartan, it's hard to quantify. Best in what? Will would beat Linda hand to hand, but would get destroyed in a sniping contest. Fred could outdo Samuel with knives, but Samuel would have no trouble outdoing him in raw strength.

If you are going for a series of tests, to determine who is the best Spartan for an assortment of situations, then that is Fred. According to canon, and John's own assessment, Fred was the best Spartan.

Fred came in second place in every contest, but John theorized that was because he chose not to win. Fred didn't like attention. Halsey's statement that only one other Spartan was considered hyper-lethal (in addition to Noble Six) would refer most likely to John.....but also to Fred, had he not intentionally lowered his qualifiers in all tests.

Woah! seriously dude? have you read the books? It says among all the Spartans, Fred was the only who was close enough to compare to the chief, and even the chief though even he wasn't good enough, he tried hard to stay in second in command.

The books don't say this.

You found the quote I was thinking of!

  • 12.21.2010 10:42 PM PDT

Fred wasn't a natural leader like John was though.

According to Bungie and Halsey, you are incorrect. The 4 best leaders amoung the Spartans were John, Kurt, Fred, and Jerome. They were the ones meant to eventually take command of the S2's.

So John, and Fred, are both natural leaders.

Also, wooooo for people quoting me and agreeing =D

[Edited on 12.22.2010 12:06 AM PST]

  • 12.22.2010 12:05 AM PDT

Big team battle for the rest.

Set aside from so many awesome missions, I still favor Jorge above all.
Fred reminds me to much of nr. 1.

  • 12.22.2010 2:12 AM PDT

Hell in a basket, Your worst nightmare, Everything you fear and hate, helluva Halo spartan!

Noble Six would have to be the second best. He dies trying to save Reach and without him Cortana wouldn't be there to help Master Chief

  • 12.22.2010 3:23 PM PDT

Through accomplishments John beats all by far, but second is Noble 6 due to the last fight scene. Twas epic.

  • 12.22.2010 3:45 PM PDT

"Betcha can't stick it."

Posted by: GUNblaznmutant
Noble Six would have to be the second best. He dies trying to save Reach and without him Cortana wouldn't be there to help Master Chief

I dont think Noble Six was a Spartan II, I think He was a spartan III

Anyhow I would have to say either Kurt or Linda. Every Spartan II was Bad-ass, but I mean Kurt nuked an entire covenant armada, and Linda with the closest thing to godly smiting.

  • 12.22.2010 6:51 PM PDT
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Well, I really like Jorge, but I know so little about him compared to Kurt. I'd say Kurt, and in third place is Linda.

  • 12.22.2010 6:54 PM PDT

Noble Six would have to be the second best. He dies trying to save Reach and without him Cortana wouldn't be there to help Master Chief[/quote]

Noble Six would be a Spartan III, negating him from this competition.

[/quote]but I mean Kurt nuked an entire covenant armada, and Linda with the closest thing to godly smiting.


Which Fred, Linda, John, and Will have all done as well. The FENRIS nuke, if I'm naming it properly, is the nuclear football Kat carried into battle in Deliver Hope and was very frequently issued to Spartans. Many of them have done it, and I'm sure many more have as well not specifically mentioned.

And your logic is idiotic, honestly. He's the best because he set off a bomb? A marine could set off a bomb. I could set off a bomb. Kurt's leadership abilities aside, he isn't particularly impressive in any way whatsoever. Name one act he did that really wows you, in terms of difficulty, excluding leadership and hitting a button to detonate some nukes he was leaning against.

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  • 12.22.2010 7:43 PM PDT

Linda was sniping Elites out of Banshees, via one shot per, while hanging upside down from a swaying cable with one hand. Will fought two Hunters in hand to hand combat, killing one. Kelly can run as fast a Cheetah, and is arguably the fastest human alive. Fred fought three Elites with plasma swords, using two standard steel knives, and won.

That's impressive.

Happy chatty Kurt pressing a ****ing button to sacrifice himself, while noble and honorable, takes absolutely no skill. It makes him a great leader who put his men before him. It also means absolutely nothing in terms of ability.

  • 12.22.2010 7:47 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.

Kurt or Jorge.

Kurt- Probably the best of all time. Not second. He is friendly, high ranking, and like all SPARTANs, a threat to everything. Not only did he choose to wear SPI armor, and charge into a zealot, but sacrificed himself to save the majority o the Spartans.

Jorge-I just like the guy. He's huge, maybe bigger than Sam. He's powerful and caring, and you can't stop in a fight. He paid the ultimate sacrifice to save Reach, but a failed attempt it had been, and that's what makes his story so sad.

  • 12.22.2010 8:17 PM PDT

^^^ Your opinion is clearly worthless, then. Kurt has a high rank, is friendly, made the unsound tactical decision to wear inferior armor, and then sacrficed himself by pushing a button.

Jorge, while big and strong, didn't really do anything of note.

Interesting, because neither of them have done anything impressive in any way. A normal marine could have been friendly, high ranked, worn SPI, and detonated a nuke to save the others. Kurt's worthless, as far as combat prowess goes.

You know, the point of the topic.

  • 12.22.2010 11:55 PM PDT

SAM

  • 12.23.2010 12:09 AM PDT

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..wish I'd read the books, I have no idea who any of these people are.

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  • 12.23.2010 12:35 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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Kurt, Will and Fred.

  • 12.23.2010 1:38 AM PDT

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Well i know he wasnt a Spartan-II, but i think Sgt. Maj. Johnson was the second best Spartan. The secont best Spartan-II would have to be eather S-087 Kelly becouse she was so close to John, and they worked so fluently, or S-034 Samuel, agin becouse he worked so close to John. The were the best team out of every spartan team. Well Linda S-058 was also very close to them also. Well i don't know who is the second best. It is a major tie. There really is no second best. Thay are all equal. Not all of them are mentioned, but they are all as equally best.

  • 12.23.2010 11:47 AM PDT

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linda or jorge

linda is a kick-ass sniper

jorge is a kick-ass tank

  • 12.23.2010 11:50 AM PDT

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