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why is everyone saying this? The elites are clearly stronger and taller in the games anyway. the brutes are a joke to fight and theyre just basically bullet sponges for the rest of the covenant. even if they did have shields, elites imo would still win in a hand to hand fight.
[EDIT] people are saying in the novels that the brutes are much bigger and stronger than in the games. but doesnt game canon overule book canon? just sayin.

[Edited on 01.19.2011 11:14 AM PST]

  • 12.18.2010 4:13 AM PDT

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Well, Brutes are pretty deadly in the books..

If I heard correctly, a Brute almost kills John in a hand to hand fight.

You shouldn't try to use the gameplay to determine this kind of stuff.

[Edited on 12.18.2010 2:22 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2010 4:35 AM PDT

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In Fall of Reach, an Elite is a tough match for John, but ultimately about even. When he encounters a brute in First Strike he's pretty much completely overpowered and relies on more 'advanced' fighting skills - and anti-tank mines.

Additionally, taller =/= stronger, if anything it makes them weaker - Brutes are built more like tanks.

  • 12.18.2010 4:38 AM PDT

The brutes are nothing but iron muscle, were as elites are alot more like human, compared to the brutes, although stronger. The elites relly on their shields, but the brutes sponge... That kind of shows that the brutes are stronger by it's self.

  • 12.18.2010 5:04 AM PDT

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Actually, no. Brutes stand an average 24 inches taller than Elites, and weigh about 4 times as much.

Brutes are stronger by a great deal. It's not even close.

  • 12.18.2010 8:17 AM PDT
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A Brute killed a Spartan II and another nearly ripped MC apart.

  • 12.18.2010 8:26 AM PDT

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  • 12.18.2010 8:34 AM PDT

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elites are tougher in the games and aparrently the books are pretty much non-cannon if the games are different. also in the first strike when he fought a brute in the actual games the brutes wernt introduced yet as a fightable enemy so it was still concept.

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Posted by: IListen2No1isme
elites are tougher in the games and aparrently the books are pretty much non-cannon if the games are different. also in the first strike when he fought a brute in the actual games the brutes wernt introduced yet as a fightable enemy so it was still concept.
There is a difference between game story and gameplay. Gameplay mechanics should never be counted as canon. For example, small caliber bullets supposedly bounce right off of MJOLNIR, even without shields. This is obviously not the case in the games.

  • 12.18.2010 9:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan999
Posted by: IListen2No1isme
elites are tougher in the games and aparrently the books are pretty much non-cannon if the games are different. also in the first strike when he fought a brute in the actual games the brutes wernt introduced yet as a fightable enemy so it was still concept.
There is a difference between game story and gameplay. Gameplay mechanics should never be counted as canon. For example, small caliber bullets supposedly bounce right off of MJOLNIR, even without shields. This is obviously not the case in the games.


they tend to contradict each other so bungie announced that games were cannon over books

  • 12.18.2010 9:37 AM PDT
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No.

Posted by: IListen2No1isme
elites are tougher in the games and aparrently the books are pretty much non-cannon if the games are different. also in the first strike when he fought a brute in the actual games the brutes wernt introduced yet as a fightable enemy so it was still concept.

The games aren't different. I love how everyone who doesn't read the books says they ain't cannon.

EVEN BUNGIE says they're cannon. The books are cannon, deal with it.


Bungie didn't say the game's cannon was to be used over the books, Joe Staten did. To cover his ass after a few errors he made in the Halo novel HE wrote (BTW, he also wrote Halo 1 and 2.)

[Edited on 12.18.2010 10:19 AM PST]

  • 12.18.2010 10:18 AM PDT

In Halo 2, brutes will relentlessly mash anything at close range. Nothing can stop them. Elites can do more damage with one hit, but they're more glass cannons than brutes because they can be knocked back. And they're slower too.

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  • 12.18.2010 10:38 AM PDT

Brutes = 8'5 of pure thick muscle meat
Elites = 7'5 Olympic team

The bigger the better, oh and by the way

1 Berserker Brute = 3 Elites dead on the floor

  • 12.18.2010 10:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: IListen2No1isme
elites are tougher in the games and aparrently the books are pretty much non-cannon if the games are different. also in the first strike when he fought a brute in the actual games the brutes wernt introduced yet as a fightable enemy so it was still concept.

The games aren't different. I love how everyone who doesn't read the books says they ain't cannon.

EVEN BUNGIE says they're cannon. The books are cannon, deal with it.


Bungie didn't say the game's cannon was to be used over the books, Joe Staten did. To cover his ass after a few errors he made in the Halo novel HE wrote (BTW, he also wrote Halo 1 and 2.)


Alright kid, if you want the games to be canon, put the game settings on Legendary with all skulls on, now that would be canon.

  • 12.18.2010 10:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: WEE MAN MJJC
why is everyone saying this? The elites are clearly stronger and taller in the games anyway. the brutes are a joke to fight and theyre just basically bullet sponges for the rest of the covenant. even if they did have shields, elites imo would still win in a hand to hand fight.



Brutes are alot stronger and bigger than elites....

Master Chief - 6.10 ft
Elites - 8.6 ft (Varies) They hunch over to about 7.2 ft in combat.
Brutes - 8.9 - 9.2 ft
Jackals - 5.8 ft
Grunts - 4.6 ft
Hunters - 12.9 ft

  • 12.18.2010 11:10 AM PDT

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Brutes=tanks with supreme strength and extreme senses.

Elites=speedy, stealthy, honorable fighters with undying skill and passion.

Both nearly had John killed. One a Zealot and then and a Brute Major.

  • 12.18.2010 11:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
A Brute killed a Spartan II and another nearly ripped MC apart.



The brute killed the spartan (Grace i think) with a bruteshot though.

  • 12.18.2010 11:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
Brutes=tanks with supreme strength and extreme senses.

Elites=speedy, stealthy, honorable fighters with undying skill and passion.

Both nearly had John killed. One a Zealot and then and a Brute Major.


Where did MC just about die from a Zealot?

  • 12.18.2010 11:36 AM PDT

The only game where Elites are taller is Reach, in all the others they're about the same size.

  • 12.18.2010 11:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
The only game where Elites are taller is Reach, in all the others they're about the same size.


Pretty sure they are taller in Halo 1 as well.

  • 12.18.2010 11:46 AM PDT


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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
The only game where Elites are taller is Reach, in all the others they're about the same size.


Pretty sure they are taller in Halo 1 as well.


Brutes aren't in Halo 1, so there's no way to know.

  • 12.18.2010 11:47 AM PDT
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I thought the MC was taller than 6,10

[Edited on 12.18.2010 11:49 AM PST]

  • 12.18.2010 11:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz

Posted by: Wrath Vengence

Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
The only game where Elites are taller is Reach, in all the others they're about the same size.


Pretty sure they are taller in Halo 1 as well.


Brutes aren't in Halo 1, so there's no way to know.


Oh ok i misread your post.

  • 12.18.2010 11:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: LaddyBoy


I thought the MC was taller than 6,10


Master Chief is over 7 feet tall.

  • 12.18.2010 11:52 AM PDT

Elite beats brute in a fight because they are mutch more skilled and alot smarter

but brutes win on there actual strenght... they are just hairy bodie buiilders on a mega steriod.

  • 12.18.2010 12:21 PM PDT