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I hadn't even noticed that. Does he do something in this Cryptum which triggers the Flood? Are the Flood already here at this time? It doesn't seem like it. And I thought that the Flood were first encountered on G617 (a play on words for Genesis 6:17, where God unleashes the flood on the world.)

By the way, did anyone else get the feeling that the Forerunners aren't very nice at all at this stage? They seem very elitist and uncaring.

That would again support the whole Christian analogy, with the flood being unleashed on a sinful people.

It also seems like the Forerunners are immortal, or near enough. Bornstellar talks about a Forerunner over 10,000 years old (or I read that wrong) and later says how if a Forerunner dies, usually by accident or occasionally war, as if they think dying is uncommon.

[Edited on 12.22.2010 4:03 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2010 4:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
I hadn't even noticed that. Does he do something in this Cryptum which triggers the Flood? Are the Flood already here at this time? It doesn't seem like it. And I thought that the Flood were first encountered on G617 (a play on words for Genesis 6:17, where God unleashes the flood on the world.)

By the way, did anyone else get the feeling that the Forerunners aren't very nice at all at this stage? They seem very elitist and uncaring.

That would again support the whole Christian analogy, with the flood being unleashed on a sinful people.

It also seems like the Forerunners are immortal, or near enough. Bornstellar talks about a Forerunner over 10,000 years old (or I read that wrong) and later says how if a Forerunner dies, usually by accident or occasionally war, as if they think dying is uncommon.


I didn't even notice the G617 thing. And I agree, I pictured Forerunners being kinder.

  • 12.22.2010 4:08 PM PDT

Well I imagine a 900 year war with the Flood in which everything is ravaged would change people drastically, and make them realise that all life is precious.

But yes, at the moment they seem like they just destroy, devolve and exile anything they deem as a threat to their Empire. Maybe they were even the ones to cast the first stone at the Flood.

  • 12.22.2010 4:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
I hadn't even noticed that. Does he do something in this Cryptum which triggers the Flood? Are the Flood already here at this time? It doesn't seem like it. And I thought that the Flood were first encountered on G617 (a play on words for Genesis 6:17, where God unleashes the flood on the world.)

I think first contact with the Flood still takes place on G617. The newly released Evolutions Volume 1 has a short story called Soma The Painter that takes place on that planet. Apparently the Flood fell from the sky as a sickly green trail. At the time the Forerunner did not know what it was, so it could be presumed to be first contact. It was apparently a backwater colony not known to many.

Bornstellar is searching for a Precursor artefact that could activate Precursor technology. I think he called it the Organon or something. (Forgotten already!) Perhaps he finds it here, activates it and all other Precursor relics and thus attracts the Flood to this galaxy.

  • 12.22.2010 4:17 PM PDT

Possible. I haven't really been keeping up with the Halo universe since I was disappointed by Reach, which caused me to lose interest.

Cryptum has rekindled that interest. Greatly.

  • 12.22.2010 4:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Wolverfrog
I hadn't even noticed that. Does he do something in this Cryptum which triggers the Flood? Are the Flood already here at this time? It doesn't seem like it. And I thought that the Flood were first encountered on G617 (a play on words for Genesis 6:17, where God unleashes the flood on the world.)

By the way, did anyone else get the feeling that the Forerunners aren't very nice at all at this stage? They seem very elitist and uncaring.

That would again support the whole Christian analogy, with the flood being unleashed on a sinful people.

It also seems like the Forerunners are immortal, or near enough. Bornstellar talks about a Forerunner over 10,000 years old (or I read that wrong) and later says how if a Forerunner dies, usually by accident or occasionally war, as if they think dying is uncommon.


Also by "God" could that be another word for precursor or something else, eg Bornstellar activates device, the precursors/something else judge the Forerunners and send the flood etc?

  • 12.22.2010 4:43 PM PDT


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forerunners love hats?
Proof then that TF2 is forerunner combat simulations.


LOL.

On the other hand am i the only one thinking that the ruins in the babysitter were human ones? Does someone have a copy for the first chapter because i'm not sure if i can't register due probably Tor being american based and requiring an USA address.


I thought this too once I learned how advanced we were...

interesting...

  • 12.22.2010 5:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Wolverfrog
Well I imagine a 900 year war with the Flood in which everything is ravaged would change people drastically, and make them realise that all life is precious.

But yes, at the moment they seem like they just destroy, devolve and exile anything they deem as a threat to their Empire. Maybe they were even the ones to cast the first stone at the Flood.


nah, it was 300 years. But still, they do kind of seem like a**holes, don't they?

But it does seem like Born and the Libraryian bpth believe we are special in some way.

I wonder where the Didact fits into all this.

"Also by "God" could that be another word for precursor or something else, eg Bornstellar activates device, the precursors/something else judge the Forerunners and send the flood etc?"

very strong possibility. Notice how the Gravemind seems to judge the Arbiter and the Chief when they first meet him? Essentially running down a list of who and what they are before initiating conversation?

Some possibilities I thought of, in no order:

1) The Mind and his Flood act as a judge and prosecutor for the Precursors, that way they can keep the universe in balance when one side (be it predator or prey; controllers and the innocent; evil and good) starts to get too powerful or too destructive. At that point, the Mind is sent in to bring down the Superpower, keeping the balance of the universe in check.

2) the Mind is the opposite of the Precursors, coming from a similar "realm" of existance as them, but not directly created or related to the Precursors (who always seem to symbolize God in Halo, it'd make sense for the Mind--symbollically Lucifer, Satan, the Devil, whatever--to be their mortal enemies)

and 3) the Mind IS a Precursor who's consciousness is trapped in this "realm" of reality as punishment for whatever he may have done that went against the Precursors, while the Precursors went on the Great Journey to ascendants (in keeping with God banishing Lucifer to Hell. Notice how the Mind seems incapable of ACTUALLY dying? His body can be killed, but his conscious state of being never "dies." The current Mind shares the same memories as the last one).

Of course, this is just assumptions, but my intuition WAS right about their being some sort of a genetic relationship between the Spartans and the Forerunners (or at least, there is more evidence to back it up now)...so, I guess we'll just have to see.

[Edited on 12.22.2010 5:29 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2010 5:17 PM PDT

One thing this chapter seems to imply is that the Forerunners at this time are quite cocky, and they evidently feel that they are invincible when wearing their armour. I can see that having dire consequences if/when the Flood show up.

  • 12.22.2010 5:41 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Holy shyte, the Halo universe just expanded hundred-fold in a single chapter. I am seriously hyped for this, so many revelations.

Posted by: Wolverfrog
Oh my, this has changed everything.

Humans seem to have once been at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners won and devolved humanity before exiling them to Earth. A Lifeworker named the Librarian has been charged with preserving them as specimens to study. Forerunners seem to view the humans as lowly, worthless scum for the most part, but the main character appears to realise that they are not so different.

Well, I was certainly wrong. Although it is still possible that the humans are Precursors, and I got the devolving on Earth thing right, even if the specifics are a little wrong.

These genetic commands are interesting too. Do you think the Forerunners might have been pulling the strings of what happens in the main trilogy? What if John is part of a genetic line which was designed to save us? These "genas" could be the reason why only some humans were suitable to become Spartans.


It's like Max's Halo 3 Epilogue story with the Forerunners and Project Destiny... :O

EDIT: Oh, and I always said that I though the Forerunners were wankers deep down. You should remember me saying that, Connor.

[Edited on 12.22.2010 5:45 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2010 5:43 PM PDT

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*MIND ASPLODES*

  • 12.22.2010 6:01 PM PDT


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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAT



*MIND ASPLODES*


lol

remember what Vociferous said? "Oh my God! My head just exploded three times in 12 pages!"

  • 12.22.2010 6:08 PM PDT

Forerunners are jerks, who knew?

  • 12.22.2010 6:15 PM PDT

Wake me when the jews are gone.

they need to ride about the forehuner-human war

  • 12.22.2010 6:16 PM PDT

Dark Neptune, a young amateur astronomer whose gaming life is no different from other teenagers of his age, though he controls it more strictly then others.

OMG. My understanding of the Halo universe was lost in that 2nd chapter.

Finally more Forerunner, less "OMG SAVE THE HUMAN PLANET" kind of stories.

  • 12.22.2010 6:30 PM PDT

Fight to the end, and give it your all.

This expands the Halo universe tremendously, and is just awesome. I can't wait to purchase the book.

  • 12.22.2010 7:27 PM PDT

I am a monument to all your sins

wow, the forerunners were quite the arrogant racists werent they?

  • 12.22.2010 8:14 PM PDT

God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof.” – Psalms 46:1-3

what is this white sticky substance...Oh, hmm seems I just came do to epic overload.

  • 12.22.2010 8:19 PM PDT

Because of strong similarities in our natural genetic structure, some Forerunner sages thought humans might be a brethren species, also shaped and given breath by the Precursors. It was possible the Librarian was intent on testing those theories. seems to me like in present terms our god=precusor because he shaped us in his figure just like the forerunner believe the precursors did to them and humans

  • 12.22.2010 11:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Wolverfrog
Well, I was certainly wrong. Although it is still possible that the humans are Precursors, and I got the devolving on Earth thing right, even if the specifics are a little wrong.
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In the re-release of The Flood (novelization of Halo:CE) it is hinted that humanity was altered in extrad tidbits addeded into the re-release.

  • 12.23.2010 3:59 AM PDT

'Human- forerunner war'

Well that's new..

  • 12.23.2010 5:05 AM PDT

Bacon for all !!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

is the book itself released yet?

  • 12.23.2010 6:15 AM PDT

God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof.” – Psalms 46:1-3


Posted by: mihir
is the book itself released yet?


Comes out in january, I hope to god this is released before I ship out :(

  • 12.23.2010 8:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: mihir
is the book itself released yet?


Comes out in january, I hope to god this is released before I ship out :(
You're shipping out? Good luck, and thank you.

  • 12.23.2010 8:35 AM PDT