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Thanks forerunners for messing up the human race because of you we lost all our technology. Think about it we could have kicked the covenants asses when they came along or we could have helped out the forerunners when the flood first appeared. Honestly I still want to know more about the human-forerunner war because from the way bornstellar described it humans may not have done anything because he said humans had taken over the Orion arm of the milky way to get away from the forerunners.

  • 12.31.2010 3:53 PM PDT

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HOLY FOOD NIPPLE. This so far changes everything about Halo. Now it doesn't really change the canon at all (except from what we learned in the Terminals.) But this is very amazing so far.

  • 12.31.2010 4:49 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

What if the Forerunners mixed their technology with Human technology? And that's the reason why humans can access Forerunner tech.

Also didn't a sentinel say in Ghosts of Onyx that the Spartan-III was a "sub-species" or something.
Bornstellar said that humans look very similar to Forerunners. Precursors possibly made Foreruuners in "their own image" and did the same to Humans.


All of this new info is just toying with my imagination. So many new theories now.

Also why would the Forerunners regain trust in humans. Like why would they "pass the mantle" to them after they went to war with them and de-evolved them

EDIT:

I think we can forget 343's statement about Chief being "forerunner." He was rampant after all.


[Edited on 12.31.2010 5:04 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2010 4:56 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg


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Posted by: dangerman1337
On the other hand am i the only one thinking that the ruins in the babysitter were human ones?


The planet in "The Babysitter" is called Heian. It is mentioned in the Halo: Evolutions short story From the Office of Dr. William Arthur Iqbal. Iqbal writes:

I direct your attention to the photographs from Heian. There were obvious Forerunner elements in that architecture, but also unmistakable architectural themes from Greco-Roman, East Asian, and Middle Eastern eras. All of those buildings predated human travel to that world by perhaps hundreds maybe thousands of years. We find ourselves wondering if they borrowed from our history, or we from theirs. It is impossible that it was a coincidence.

A photo of the ruins on Heian from "The Babysitter"

Although Cryptum is a new novel, it looks like its events were planed out for quite a while, and it meshes with other established canon. I look forward to reading it.


What if those ruins are human ruins prior to the Human-Forerunner war

  • 12.31.2010 5:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua

Posted by: Xyzzva

Posted by: dangerman1337
On the other hand am i the only one thinking that the ruins in the babysitter were human ones?


The planet in "The Babysitter" is called Heian. It is mentioned in the Halo: Evolutions short story From the Office of Dr. William Arthur Iqbal. Iqbal writes:

I direct your attention to the photographs from Heian. There were obvious Forerunner elements in that architecture, but also unmistakable architectural themes from Greco-Roman, East Asian, and Middle Eastern eras. All of those buildings predated human travel to that world by perhaps hundreds maybe thousands of years. We find ourselves wondering if they borrowed from our history, or we from theirs. It is impossible that it was a coincidence.

A photo of the ruins on Heian from "The Babysitter"

Although Cryptum is a new novel, it looks like its events were planed out for quite a while, and it meshes with other established canon. I look forward to reading it.


What if those ruins are human ruins prior to the Human-Forerunner war


That's my thinking, it wouldn't have been erased like most other examples of the ancient human empire structures and technology because it appears to be made primarily of stone.

  • 12.31.2010 6:26 PM PDT

I started up the heated debate on whether the SPARTAN-II in the cryo tube near the end of Reach is really Linda.
I created the Moa XING avatar pic.
Also I earned the All Star nameplate with this submission to Week 14 All Stars http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline11/bwu_0415/art/likea boss.jpg

Also did the chapter say that Earth it the human homeworld? or did it say that humans were just exiled from it.


Also I have a theory! Remember how because the humans lost their species began to split into other species. What if....just what if....the Spartan-IIs are "PURE" humans. Basically Spartan-IIs are descendants of humans from the human-forerunner war who remained pure.
This would also make sense since Chief is called a "reclaimer" instead of any other human like Johnson.


EDIT:
The humans occupied the Orion Arm before the human-forerunner war right? Most human colonies in the Halo trilogy are located in the Orion Arm. Also the Covenant occupy much of the Orion Arm. Purhaps the humans encountered Covenant long ago when the covie were still premative creatures?
And what if some human tech was left behind on Elite and Prophet worlds. And then two used human tech, along with forerunner tech but never knew the difference?

[Edited on 12.31.2010 7:25 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2010 7:22 PM PDT


Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
What if the Forerunners mixed their technology with Human technology? And that's the reason why humans can access Forerunner tech.

Also didn't a sentinel say in Ghosts of Onyx that the Spartan-III was a "sub-species" or something.
Bornstellar said that humans look very similar to Forerunners. Precursors possibly made Foreruuners in "their own image" and did the same to Humans.


All of this new info is just toying with my imagination. So many new theories now.

Also why would the Forerunners regain trust in humans. Like why would they "pass the mantle" to them after they went to war with them and de-evolved them

EDIT:

I think we can forget 343's statement about Chief being "forerunner." He was rampant after all.

343 wasn't the only Forerunner AI to link humans and Forerunners together. In Contact Harvest the AI aboard the Forerunner Keyship said "This is not Reclamation, this is Reclamier and Those it Represents are my Makers" when shown the Luminations reports form Harvest. If Humans were advanced enough to go to war with the Forerunners it might explain where the AIs from the Reach data pads came from.

[Edited on 01.01.2011 1:09 PM PST]

  • 12.31.2010 11:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: ImmortalJoshua
What if the Forerunners mixed their technology with Human technology? And that's the reason why humans can access Forerunner tech.

Also didn't a sentinel say in Ghosts of Onyx that the Spartan-III was a "sub-species" or something.
Bornstellar said that humans look very similar to Forerunners. Precursors possibly made Foreruuners in "their own image" and did the same to Humans.


All of this new info is just toying with my imagination. So many new theories now.

Also why would the Forerunners regain trust in humans. Like why would they "pass the mantle" to them after they went to war with them and de-evolved them

EDIT:

I think we can forget 343's statement about Chief being "forerunner." He was rampant after all.

343 wasn't the only Forerunner AI to link humans and Forerunners together. In Contact Harvest the AI aboard the Forerunner Keyship said "This is not Reclamation, this is Reclamier and Those it Represents are my Makers" when shown the Luminations reports form Harvest. If Humans were advanced enough to go to war with the Forerunners it might explain where the AIs from the Reach data pads came from.


And let's face it, this bombshell was only in the 1st chapter.

How knows what other stuff may be in cryptum? We should wait, as of know, i'm not ruling out anything, even that humans are really the result of a married couple of flood and grunts...

Okay, maybe that last one...

  • 01.01.2011 2:33 PM PDT

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  • 01.01.2011 4:11 PM PDT

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I predict that this book will uncover the previously denied link between Halo and Marathon.

At the very least it will provide subtle support between the two.

  • 01.01.2011 6:14 PM PDT

Posted by: cpv18
I predict that this book will uncover the previously denied link between Halo and Marathon.

At the very least it will provide subtle support between the two.


If that was the case then 343 would have a potential lawsuit on their hands as Bungie owns all of the rights to Marathon.

  • 01.01.2011 6:23 PM PDT
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  • 01.02.2011 12:53 PM PDT

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Well the book was released today, so I got to go to the nearest book store to check if they have it.

  • 01.04.2011 6:01 AM PDT

I'm stopping by Barns and Noble later today. According to the internet they're in stock.

  • 01.04.2011 6:18 AM PDT

OMG a Pwny!

Had the chance to finish this book over the weekend. Most of you are blowing all this way out of proportion. It's not the story of the Human-Forerunner war so don't expect a deep account of that, but here is some insight on it. You also have to remember it's the first of a trilogy.

I absolutely loved this book, some answers, tons of new questions.

  • 01.04.2011 8:30 AM PDT

I ordered the book but I dont probably get it before the last days of this month. I cant wait to read it but I cant stop myself reading spoilers.

  • 01.04.2011 8:58 AM PDT

Wait, they call themselves Forerunners? This doesn't make any sense. I've been under the impression all this time that humanity are the Forerunners, left behined to reclaim the civilization's tech once their ready.

I don't like this author's style, or the path they've gone down in the convolution of the canon.

  • 01.04.2011 2:52 PM PDT

I'm pretty sure it was basically fact before this book was even announced that humanity are not Forerunners.

And you don't like Greg Bear's style? He's an amazing author. Nylund is good but pales in comparison to him.

  • 01.04.2011 2:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Wolverfrog
I'm pretty sure it was basically fact before this book was even announced that humanity are not Forerunners.

And you don't like Greg Bear's style? He's an amazing author. Nylund is good but pales in comparison to him.
I don't like the way he describes things. Nylund doesn't -blam!- around, he writes in a straightforward manner and creates an excellent story. To me, he's the spirit of the Haloverse. I'm not saying this dude is bad, I'm saying that he seems like he thinks he's way better than he is, and his descriptions are lacking.

I don't feel his storytelling is a proper lense through which to talk about the Halo universe. I'll pick up the book and read it when I can, but so far, it seems very meh. Of course, this is all IMO.

  • 01.04.2011 3:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: juhoxxx
I ordered the book but I dont probably get it before the last days of this month. I cant wait to read it but I cant stop myself reading spoilers.


I feel the same. I didn't preorder it, but will get it at B&N soon. I don't wanna read on but I do. Reading what people are posting is making clicks from the past Halo's with me, not just what's being told in this novel.

If I go back and re-read what Wolver's posted and what others have said, some of them even link up with Halo Legends when the ODST's and Spartan were deployed on the planet where the Covenant were having a celebration for something. That area, correct me if I'm wrong, was the same area as that picture. I'll have to read more to know..

  • 01.04.2011 3:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Techno Greek
Wait, they call themselves Forerunners? This doesn't make any sense. I've been under the impression all this time that humanity are the Forerunners, left behined to reclaim the civilization's tech once their ready.

I don't like this author's style, or the path they've gone down in the convolution of the canon.


They called themselves Forerunners because they believed themselves the 'Forerunners' of something greater.

  • 01.04.2011 5:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Techno Greek
Wait, they call themselves Forerunners? This doesn't make any sense. I've been under the impression all this time that humanity are the Forerunners, left behined to reclaim the civilization's tech once their ready.

I don't like this author's style, or the path they've gone down in the convolution of the canon.


They called themselves Forerunners because they believed themselves the 'Forerunners' of something greater.
It seemed a lot less stupid in CE when it was a preconception that they're called the Forerunners because of the age of their ruins- Dictionary.com's definition of Forerunner.

They're over-complicating the canon.

  • 01.04.2011 5:55 PM PDT

So basically the Forerunners were ignorant and hypocritical...as advanced as they were they didn't stop and ask the humans,

(Forerunner: "Hey! What the blam are doin on our property?!")

(Human: "Chill homies, we just trying to run from this parasite, and keep the demon in our basement from talking us into killing ourselves!")

Would've saved them a lot of grief and precious time that could have been used fighting the Flood.

Now this is just speculation but I don't think all Precursors were Flood. The Precursor in the prison was obviously there for a reason, perhaps because he was a rouge Precursor who didn't believe in the Mantle. Evil knows all forms, so it may be safe to say that this particular Precursor was imprisoned for creating the Flood therefore defying the Mantle.

I don't think they're over-complicating the canon, because this Bungie's version of Chaucer's: Canterbury Tales or Stephen Kings: The Dark Tower series. Not explaining the Forerunners or Precursors would leave an astronomical gap in the entire canon. Bungie is taking what could have been left as just a good game, and given it some great story. Some things still need some fine tuning but hey, nobody's perfect.

Interesting book, can't wait for the rest of the saga.

  • 01.24.2011 10:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Oh my, this has changed everything.

Humans seem to have once been at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners won and devolved humanity before exiling them to Earth. A Lifeworker named the Librarian has been charged with preserving them as specimens to study. Forerunners seem to view the humans as lowly, worthless scum for the most part, but the main character appears to realise that they are not so different.

Well, I was certainly wrong. Although it is still possible that the humans are Precursors, and I got the devolving on Earth thing right, even if the specifics are a little wrong.

These genetic commands are interesting too. Do you think the Forerunners might have been pulling the strings of what happens in the main trilogy? What if John is part of a genetic line which was designed to save us? These "genas" could be the reason why only some humans were suitable to become Spartans.


They didnt know that Earth existed. Plus spoiler here, humanity fought back the flood while fighting with the forerunners. They knew how to beat the flood, but refused to tell the forerunners after thier defeat. Amazing we actually surpassed the forerunners in something.

  • 01.25.2011 2:35 AM PDT

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