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Subject: ITT I describe random reasons why Halo 2 is all that is GOOD in Gaming

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

Textures: Simple yet detailed. Maximum visbility, yet varied enough to create nice enviornments. Nothing looks better than a light blue stonewall on lockout suddenly covered by the splatter of an enemy player's blood.

Maps: Hands down best maps out of any FPS game I have played to date. Even the DLC was good. Maybe it just speaks for how good of a game H2 was but every map played great. I even liked backwas. Epic Jumps also fits in this category.

Graphics Same as textures. Visibility everywhere. 480p getting the job done. No High-def delay. Awesome.

Online Gameplay: It's -blam!- HITSCAN people. Lag is minimal. How is it that Halo 2 lagged less with everyone on DSL, and then Halo 3 is the laggiest garbage with Cable? Pathetic. Anyways, Halo 2 DEFINED console online gameplay. It defined matchmaking, set a standard so high in 2004, that modern day FPS games fail to meet it still (Cant find a game in Black Ops lol Treyarch fail)

Music: My boy Marty is rocking out with some fresh beats. In Amber Clad. Unforgotten. Heavy Price Paid. Hell the menu for Halo 2 should be a game by itself. You have a blue filter over a camera zooming around New Mombasa with marty rocking out... get some.

Clans Yup.

Rank actually means something. Sure you can measure how good your internet connection is with a Halo 3 rank, or you can man up and Play halo 2. Its all about the win. Nowadays losers whine about K/D and play objective games for kills, back in the day you played to win, and everyone on the team played for the win.

It was the first online gaming experience for our generation of console FPS veterans. We carried the torch. We endured the stand bye nonsense, we discovered the legendary super jumps. The double shot and button combos. The fabeled rocket/sword super lunge. The epic custom games of zombies when common honor and respect were the rules. Before the 12 year old children dominated xbox live. The lobbys of Halo 2 were just more friendly... Halo 3 is just racist childish yelling. I noticed this when I logged onto Halo 2 for its final days. Suddenly I was in a lobby of adults and mature players, each remembering the GOOD OLE DAYS. When you could just play and enjoy a quality balanced game. Oh the big team battle games. The teamwork. The strategy. Objective games on halo 2... on the good maps. I feel Halo 2 shouldn't be removed from Xbox Live, it should be retired.

Infact, I think on XBOX.com, there should be an area where they retire legendary games by putting the game box cover art on display with the dates of online service. I mean seriously, Halo 2 was the game and it still is. It built Xbox Live, it is the foundation upon which lesser games such as "Reach" and "Laglo 3" are built upon. It has earned its place in time as a legendary masterpiece, in which an epic original was actually improved via a sequel.

Bill gates can suck my dick. I'm playing Halo 2 on Xbox Connect right now. Halo Reach can burn in hell. Reticle Bloom? Please child. I am a Halo 2 Veteran. At ease.

  • 12.23.2010 2:06 AM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

I realize that all the current Bungie employees are scrubs that weren't around for the development of Halo 2, especially map designers lawl. Still, they should appreciate perfection.

I would say we need a more impressive Halo 2 avatar. I want a solid gold 2 flashing brigher than the sun, let all bask in the glory that shall forever be Halo 2's.

  • 12.23.2010 2:11 AM PDT

Halo 2 for Life!

H2 for life! Yeah I feel your pain of missing H2 online. I was calling for map packs a few months before they said H2 was going offline.

They should have been able to put a server together for the best game in history but that is typical Bungie/Microsoft not to care about their old games as much as their new games.

H2 was quality and everything after that was rushed or something funny occured to them that Microsoft had a hand in and Bungie yielded to. It's hard to say for certain but something unfun occured between Bungie and Microsoft and it showed up in their games from the best game in history H2 to worse than COD in H3.

[Edited on 12.23.2010 2:20 AM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 2:18 AM PDT

I <3 Halo 2 and Trombones ^.^

I love you sir.

  • 12.23.2010 9:10 AM PDT

"I'll tell you right now, if you ever see someone called ll wa1do ll... leave the game immediately. My friend knows him, I've been in his party a few times, do not mess with this guy. From what I've heard, he's the real deal. I also heard someone made a guy named Wa2do (similar to his name) and then he hacked that guy and boosted off his level." -From Minou on Bungie.net

Respect.

  • 12.23.2010 12:02 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Amen Brother.

  • 12.23.2010 12:04 PM PDT

Only true H2 lovers understand threads like this. In these hallowed halls of H2 it could simply be called 'The Game'.

Only people who feel this game in their DNA can appreciate what is missing in other games.

  • 12.23.2010 12:12 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

OMG HALO 2 IZ DA BEST EVAH TROLOLO!

Textures: Extremely low resolution, and looking blurry. Then again, this was in 2004 for a old console. Look at this for comparision. Yes, this the xbox freaking original version, not the PC or the PS3 or the 360 orange box version.

Maps: Halo 2 had bad maps. See backwash or gemini for instance.

Graphics: Halo 2 was better then a wii game, but it pales in comparasion to most good 360/ps3/new pc games.

Online Gameplay: "Searching for matches" "Players found" "Searching for matches" "Waiting for players"
That sums up how matchmaking felt for me in h2x. Meanwhile cod4 had around the same number of people and it took far less time to matchmake. Oh, and the BLUE SCREENS OF LAG!

Music: H2 can't touch this or this or this or this.

Clans: "d00d check out my pointless clan with 5 people lololol and itz dead". It allowed n00bs to make pointless clans that served little purpose.

Rank Probably Means Somethin...Oh wait, BOOOOOOOOOSSSTT and MOOOOOODD!

It was the first online experience for lots of n00bs who had never played CS 1.6 or Doom or Starcraft or Quake or any good PC game. Everyone learned lots of glitches that should have not been there, then we exploited them to make ourselves feel cool. And since the engine blew, they could not have been patched.

Oh, and I also don't make threads whining about bloom, like OP wants to. Just look at that last sentence in his post.

[Edited on 12.23.2010 1:11 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 12:57 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.


Posted by: Grumpy1
In these hallowed halls of H2 it could simply be called 'The Game'.


I agree, from henceforth I shall refer to it as The Game.

I have fixed my avatar to pay tribute to THE GAME.

To the above poster, what is this mindless blabbering you have tainted these forums with? You know nothing of perfection. Your trolling attempt is not even funny or clever. Just look at my avatar for my response. That's right. Look at that shining brilliance. Let the image burn into your retina, child. Stand in awe... behold the glory of Halo 2.

[Edited on 12.23.2010 2:28 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 2:14 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

Behold The Game in all of its brilliance.

Lockout: The best map of all time. Notice the simple geometry and textures, with a little snow. Humble precipitation effects and a simple white mountaintop background. THE GAME didn't need gimmicks or shiney over-decorated walls in 1080p... it had pure balanced perfection. A layout simple for new players yet rewarding for veterans with impressive jumps and drops.

You want to know why Halo 3 isn't the same? Compare Lockout to Black out.

Lockout
Blackout

Notice the overdone geometry on Blackout. Pipes and railings, structures that do not allow for jumps or cover, serving no purpose whatsoever. Simply there, decoration. They focus on textures and backgrounds when the true greatness was in the simple geometry and pure design/layout.

True Blackout is not a bad map but the fact that it does not play as well as THE GAME shows the decline in gameplay. Don't be fooled by nice textures and lighting, fancy backgrounds.

THE GAME was designed for playing, Halo 3 is designed to look nice.

  • 12.23.2010 2:23 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Posted by: DV Legend
To the above poster, what is this mindless blabbering you have tainted these forums with? You know nothing of perfection. Your trolling attempt is not even funny or clever. Just look at my avatar for my response. That's right. Look at that shining brilliance. Let the image burn into your retina, child. Stand in awe... behold the glory of Halo 2.

1. I played Halo 2. In fact my avatar is my really old h2 emblem, I just have it since i'm sick of generic BNET avatars by n00bs.
2. Halo 2 is overrated. Console kids who never played CS 1.6 or StarCraft or Quake think it's revolutionary, it's not.
3. You sound like you have been brainwashed by some cult. Seriously.
4. Your second post sounds like you are like a sonic fan. No seriously, read it.

[Edited on 12.23.2010 2:39 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 2:38 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.


Posted by: JacobGRocks
Maps: Halo 2 had bad maps. See backwash or gemini for instance.

Ummm...lol...ok. What about the other 23 maps?

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Online Gameplay: "Searching for matches" "Players found" "Searching for matches" "Waiting for players"
That sums up how matchmaking felt for me in h2x.

This makes me think you never even played Halo 2 online back in
2005-2007, where you would find matches instantly.

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Music: H2 can't touch this or this or this or this.

Once again, comparing Halo 2 to Pokemon. You're killing me Jacob.

  • 12.23.2010 2:39 PM PDT

"I'll tell you right now, if you ever see someone called ll wa1do ll... leave the game immediately. My friend knows him, I've been in his party a few times, do not mess with this guy. From what I've heard, he's the real deal. I also heard someone made a guy named Wa2do (similar to his name) and then he hacked that guy and boosted off his level." -From Minou on Bungie.net

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Posted by: DV Legend
To the above poster, what is this mindless blabbering you have tainted these forums with? You know nothing of perfection. Your trolling attempt is not even funny or clever. Just look at my avatar for my response. That's right. Look at that shining brilliance. Let the image burn into your retina, child. Stand in awe... behold the glory of Halo 2.

1. I played Halo 2. In fact my avatar is my really old h2 emblem, I just have it since i'm sick of generic BNET avatars by n00bs.
2. Halo 2 is overrated. Console kids who never played CS 1.6 or StarCraft or Quake think it's revolutionary, it's not.
3. You sound like you have been brainwashed by some cult. Seriously.
4. Your second post sounds like you are like a sonic fan. No seriously, read it.

You only played about 400 games of H2 and started in 2009. Your opinion means nothing in this forum.

  • 12.23.2010 2:41 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: Super PolarBear

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Maps: Halo 2 had bad maps. See backwash or gemini for instance.

Ummm...lol...ok. What about the other 23 maps?



A bunch of them were fu3king overrated. Wait, I mean most of them. Lockout is the #2 most overrated Halo map, only behind BloodGulch/Coag.

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Online Gameplay: "Searching for matches" "Players found" "Searching for matches" "Waiting for players"
That sums up how matchmaking felt for me in h2x.

This makes me think you never even played Halo 2 online back in
2005-2007, where you would find matches instantly.

Oh right, the matchmaking system blew, so it only worked when there were hundereds of thousands on. After it dipped below 20k, it stopped working cuz it was crappy. CoD4 has 1k on, and it matchmakes instantly.

Posted by: JacobGRocks
Music: H2 can't touch this or this or this or this.

Once again, comparing Halo 2 to Pokemon. You're killing me Jacob.


Maybe because pokemon games HAVE better soundtracks then halo and have more people playing them. Most people have already piled up their copies of H2 at the nearest used game store.


Posted by: l bAlleRliCoius
You only played about 400 games of H2 and started in 2009. Your opinion means nothing in this forum.

Hello, my name is l bAlleRliCoius! I have played over 9000 h2 games, and I jerked off to it all the time! Anyone who has played less is automatically AN EPIC FAILZ TROLL because he isn't drinking enought Kool Aid!

[Edited on 12.23.2010 2:46 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 2:45 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

Jacob you are comparing THE GAME to Pokemon and Starcraft, I am confused because your points are too bad to be legit yet not funny enough to be trolling.

  • 12.23.2010 3:09 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

My points are pretty legit. Halo 2 is overrated, The graphics blow, and the online was already in place far before h2x.

Oh, and when you say the game, you mean this, right?

  • 12.23.2010 3:12 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

The graphics are 480p. The graphics were good for consoles in 2004, and they are still good now. Visibility is great, you can play splitscreen and still see everything.

The Game is all about gameplay, which is top notch. The graphics do nothing to hinder the gameplay. 1080p looks nice and flashy but it doesn't make it a better game.

As for matchmaking, it was revolutionary. It set the bar for all console FPS games to aim for. Yes, you have explained how PC games work online. Counterstrike, Starcraft, Pokemon are all irrelevant.

The one relevant comparison you have made is to COD4, also a great game. However COD4 came out 3 years after THE GAME and on a different console, and yet here we are comparing the two (a testament to the greatness of THE GAME). COD4 is fun but the gameplay and map design cannot compete, all COD4 has to show for its 3 year advantage is improved graphics (which I already explained why graphics do not make a game).

By all means though Jacob, please continue to troll this thread. I find it entertaining. Please, compare Starcraft to Halo and then tell a forum full of Halo fans why it is a bad game. I will microwave some popcorn.

  • 12.23.2010 3:25 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.


Posted by: DV Legend
The graphics are 480p. The graphics were good for consoles in 2004, and they are still good now. Visibility is great, you can play splitscreen and still see everything.

Oh look, HL2 and DOOM 3 say hi! And their on the xbox 1 too!


The Game is all about gameplay, which is top notch. The graphics do nothing to hinder the gameplay. 1080p looks nice and flashy but it doesn't make it a better game.

Some things don't age well. Graphics are one of them.

As for matchmaking, it was revolutionary. It set the bar for all console FPS games to aim for. Yes, you have explained how PC games work online. Counterstrike, Starcraft, Pokemon are all irrelevant.

It was, as it s4itified console online gaming. Instead of using the same lag free servers the PC used, consoles could now enjoy the joys of LAG!


The one relevant comparison you have made is to COD4, also a great game. However COD4 came out 3 years after THE GAME and on a different console, and yet here we are comparing the two (a testament to the greatness of THE GAME). COD4 is fun but the gameplay and map design cannot compete, all COD4 has to show for its 3 year advantage is improved graphics (which I already explained why graphics do not make a game).

CoD4 is much better then your game. Matchmaking is better, it doesn't lag as much, and the gameplay is better.


By all means though Jacob, please continue to troll this thread. I find it entertaining. Please, compare Starcraft to Halo and then tell a forum full of Halo fans why it is a bad game. I will microwave some popcorn.

I will, because I'm going to ask vegeta how many times starcraft is better then halo. Halo 2 is overrated. People thought it was god pre release, only to find out it was meh and it was n00bified.

  • 12.23.2010 3:47 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

Ah, I see you quote my post and then add in irrelevant statements or personal opinions in response rather than countering them.

Example: "Visibility is good" "Doom 3 has good visibility too" ...so? my point was that non-HD graphics doesn't hamper gameplay.

Then you conclude your compelling arguement with irrelevant nonsense, as if inserting hyperlinks hides the fact your post contains no substance.

Bravo sir.

  • 12.23.2010 4:00 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Did you even click them? I hope you didn't just skim the links thinking "oh cool story bro". Here's proof halo 2 has bad gameplay.


umad?

[Edited on 12.23.2010 4:11 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 4:03 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

So the hitboxes are larger than the character models.

That does not equal bad gameplay.

You want to compare COD4 and The Game, check out the hit detection in COD.

Another irrelevant, trivial aspect of a game. Yet you hyperlink it and present it as proof of a much larger claim. Try a little harder, you almost had it!

  • 12.23.2010 4:17 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

Or wait are you comparing THE GAME to Combat Evolved now?

First Starcraft, Doom 3, COD4, Pokemon... quite the arsenal.

  • 12.23.2010 4:21 PM PDT

This is the average H2 Fanboy.
Xfire: JacobGRocks.
50 in H2/H3? Great, but you still fail at this.

Here's the thing, I can compare anything to h2 and it will still be meh. Halo 2 PC got a 7.0, because they reviewed h2 later, and if it didn't have hype it had in 2004, it would get lower reviews.

(insert it's not on xbox flame comment below)

  • 12.23.2010 4:23 PM PDT

I was there for the glory days of Combat Evolved. I was there when Halo 2 was hyped up and met the hype. I was there for the first days and last days of Halo 2 on Xbox Live. I was there for the Halo 3 days, the great Lag Age of 2008-2010. I was there to laugh and not buy ODST, I was there to vomit when Reach implemented reticle bloom. I am a Halo veteran, and a Halo legend.

None of my comments have been "flames"... perhaps sarcastic remarks regarding your ability to communicate on the internet. I hope I haven't offended you.

And yes, Halo 2 Vista and it's "score" from reviewers is irrelevant.

Naturally you can look down the timeline of technology and creations and say the wright brother's plane is a POS compared to a harrier jet.

The same applies to Video Games overtime. Game reviewers looking at Super Mario Bros today would say "Graphics Suck, Sound Sucks, Feels old and dated, only has 2/3 dimensions... Worst game ever".

Sure newer games will always have better capabilities with graphics and memory as technology improves.

HOWEVER, things such as music, design, and gameplay, and "fun" will not change with better graphics and time. That is why Halo 2 is THE GAME.

Reviewers are biased and ignorant, I see them give games like Black Ops a 5/5... score inflation is ridiculous. I remember back in the day when Chaos Theory got the highest OXM score of 9.9 back in the day and it deserved it. Back when scores meant something. Now all reviewers give every developer 5 stars because it lets them get exclusive access before the release (no developer will let a critical reviwer look at their game when some ignorant website will give them an A+ just because it has CALL OF DUTY or HALO in the title). Keep in mind the same reviwers gave Halo 2 great scores also, but that was before every other game started getting 10/10s.

You say Halo 2 is overrated, I say underrated. The game would get more discussion if the majority of these posters were'nt 12 year old children who missed playing the game because they were watching Barney at the time.

  • 12.23.2010 4:49 PM PDT

Well you guys can argue small points all you want, for me, H2 is the greatest game ever made and it's not even close. Screw the better graphics, screw that Bungie could have done this or that to make it better, screw that there was hardly any live players left and screw that there was hype to help sell us on the game. I know what I like and I know what I love.

We are talking opinion here and everyone is right, let's remember that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Edited on 12.23.2010 5:07 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2010 5:06 PM PDT

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