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Also in regards to people arguing about humans killing other humans is morally wrong or w/e.

It isn't just morality that makes it seem 'wrong'. Humans killing one another is detrimental to the evolution of humans, that is, passing on your genes. In fact this is more likely where our sense of morals come from.

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Posted by: Olga Zakarov
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Olga Zakarov
I swear the vegetarians in this thread have weak arguments and have accomplished nothing. Every time they create an argument it gets pummeled by a bunch of users and shows how well they clearly have no idea what they are talking about.

Can we just lock this? I swear these vegetarians are giving me the impression they are all this stupid and ignorant.


It's cause they are not eating meat. But seriously, they're arguments are extremely vague and one sentenced.
Exactly, they fail to commit to any argument where they lose, but still seem to boast their superiority like they have any clue what they're talking about. They make it so apparent they are experts at not wanting to understand for the fear of being wrong. Their personalities just seem sickening. Not eating meat is entirely subjective anyways


Their lack of commitment makes my brain bleed >.< Their air of superiority and i-can't-be-wrong attitude doesn't help the fact that they have no argument to stand on.

If they don't want to eat meat that's fine. One of my best friends way back when in high school was a VEGAN, and I ate meat around her all the time, and she never had the "vegetarian-superiority" complex about her. I eat meat, she didn't, it was left at that.

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  • 12.24.2010 4:48 PM PDT
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More for me?


Moar for us.

Vegetarians like you, OP, are idiots. Bigots, all of you. Wretches. You are no better than the filthy swine you defend.
You will either shut the -blam!- up and let me consume whatever it is I wish to consume, or you shut the -blam!- up, let me eat AND suck my dick. There's no other option but that one.

Mmm, bacon sure is tasty. Too bad your poof mouths won't be having any. More for me, anyway.

  • 12.24.2010 4:48 PM PDT

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B12.

Explain.

I believe the Dr. is inferring what mine told me. You can not get B12 from any source other than meat. Unless you take a supplement.


... And if you do not get it, you have irregular brain functions. But, hey, let the OP become more of an idiot. It regulates brain functions, so Bobcast has a point about needing it.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
It's far from efficient.


Again, we're omnivores. We are not specialist eaters. We're not efficient at eating vegetation either.

Your main argument against meat eating is that we don't have a full set of carnivorous teeth. Guess what? We don't have a full set of herbivorous teeth either. We lack a diastema for one.


Probably the only good argument I've seen (concerning the carnivorous teeth). My argument still stands that we are efficient at eating vegetation, but not meat.


WE ARE NOT SPECIALIST EATERS

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
It's far from efficient.


Again, we're omnivores. We are not specialist eaters. We're not efficient at eating vegetation either.

Your main argument against meat eating is that we don't have a full set of carnivorous teeth. Guess what? We don't have a full set of herbivorous teeth either. We lack a diastema for one.


Probably the only good argument I've seen (concerning the carnivorous teeth). My argument still stands that we are efficient at eating vegetation, but not meat.


No, a herbivore is efficient at eating vegetation. We can just tolerate it.

If we were efficient at eating nothing but vegetation, we would be able survive from nothing but grazing on plain old grass. We can't.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Mysten
Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
It's far from efficient.


Again, we're omnivores. We are not specialist eaters. We're not efficient at eating vegetation either.

Your main argument against meat eating is that we don't have a full set of carnivorous teeth. Guess what? We don't have a full set of herbivorous teeth either. We lack a diastema for one.


Probably the only good argument I've seen (concerning the carnivorous teeth). My argument still stands that we are efficient at eating vegetation, but not meat.
how exactly do you figure, id like to see a study, or at least some source saying that humans are more efficient at digesting plants than meat. here is an example, a lion wolf human primate, all have the same basic digestive tract, they all eat meat. a cow grazes for ALL of its nutrients, and it has multiple stomachs for the soul purpose of digesting hard to digest plant life.

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Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Olga Zakarov
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: Olga Zakarov
I swear the vegetarians in this thread have weak arguments and have accomplished nothing. Every time they create an argument it gets pummeled by a bunch of users and shows how well they clearly have no idea what they are talking about.

Can we just lock this? I swear these vegetarians are giving me the impression they are all this stupid and ignorant.


It's cause they are not eating meat. But seriously, they're arguments are extremely vague and one sentenced.
Exactly, they fail to commit to any argument where they lose, but still seem to boast their superiority like they have any clue what they're talking about. They make it so apparent they are experts at not wanting to understand for the fear of being wrong. Their personalities just seem sickening. Not eating meat is entirely subjective anyways


Their lack of commitment makes my brain bleed >.< Their air of superiority and i-can't-be-wrong attitude doesn't help the fact that they have no argument to stand on.

If they don't want to eat meat that's fine. One of my best friends way back when in high school was a VEGAN, and I ate meat around her all the time, and she never had the "vegetarian-superiority" complex about her. I eat meat, she didn't, it was left at that.
This thread might be an actual debate if more intelligent vegetarians were present to make some actual arguments...

  • 12.24.2010 4:49 PM PDT

Maybe being a vegetarian would be a more attractive prospect if the people who already are a vegetarian weren't -blam!-s who try to force their way of thinking on you. This isn't necessarily about OP, it's more about the vegetarians i know irl.

  • 12.24.2010 4:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Humans are very capable killers, we are designed to kill, so well in fact that killing is what makes us the apex predator of the world, not because we are hard to kill (we are rather easy), so why is it that it is harshly frowned upon to kill another human being? Because it is universally known that it is morally wrong.

Just because we can kill animals, doesn't mean it's right to do so.


The reason it is harshly frowned upon for a human to kill another human is because its CANNIBALISM. CANNIBALISM is morally wrong to us. Any type of it is frowned upon whether it be humans eating other humans or fish eating other fish.Keep the arguments coming i can shoot them down all night while eating the meatloaf i just made.


No, murder cases are rarely because they want to eat the victim...

It's frowned upon, because taking another persons life is wrong, as is taking an animals. Who are you to value a life.


It is frowned upon because it goes against our natural instincts to keep our species alive.
shot down again


Our species is far from extinct though...

Bit early with that shot down.

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B12.

Explain.


Vitamin B12 is essential for life, without it you can't make blood, repair nerves, or effectively replicate DNA.

Our bodies can't make B12, and the only source of B12 is in animal protein. Even the B12 found in supplements is harvested from animal sources.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Mysten
Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
It's far from efficient.


Again, we're omnivores. We are not specialist eaters. We're not efficient at eating vegetation either.

Your main argument against meat eating is that we don't have a full set of carnivorous teeth. Guess what? We don't have a full set of herbivorous teeth either. We lack a diastema for one.


Probably the only good argument I've seen (concerning the carnivorous teeth). My argument still stands that we are efficient at eating vegetation, but not meat.


Your argument does not stand. His argument is fact, as per the FACT that we have a digestive ready to handle meat AND plants and none more than the other. Those who eat too much meat, have high iron contents in their blood as well as others.

Those who eat too many plants, often come across pale, thin and usually need to eat other items, to make up for wha they used to get in meat.

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Posted by: Astinous
Posted by: Hillbilly Bob
More for me?


Moar for us.

Vegetarians like you, OP, are idiots. Bigots, all of you. Wretches. You are no better than the filthy swine you defend.
You will either shut the -blam!- up and let me consume whatever it is I wish to consume, or you shut the -blam!- up, let me eat AND suck my dick. There's no other option but that one.

Mmm, bacon sure is tasty. Too bad your poof mouths won't be having any. More for me, anyway.

I like you.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX


Our species is far from extinct though...

Bit early with that shot down.

Point?

  • 12.24.2010 4:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Olga Zakarov
I'm going to shoot an animal in the name of XIII Clutch or whatever. The animal will know that Bnet user caused his death.


Showed how much of an idiot you are.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: thegreekboy250

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: thegreekboy250

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Humans are very capable killers, we are designed to kill, so well in fact that killing is what makes us the apex predator of the world, not because we are hard to kill (we are rather easy), so why is it that it is harshly frowned upon to kill another human being? Because it is universally known that it is morally wrong.

Just because we can kill animals, doesn't mean it's right to do so.


The reason it is harshly frowned upon for a human to kill another human is because its CANNIBALISM. CANNIBALISM is morally wrong to us. Any type of it is frowned upon whether it be humans eating other humans or fish eating other fish.Keep the arguments coming i can shoot them down all night while eating the meatloaf i just made.


No, murder cases are rarely because they want to eat the victim...

It's frowned upon, because taking another persons life is wrong, as is taking an animals. Who are you to value a life.


It is frowned upon because it goes against our natural instincts to keep our species alive.
shot down again


Our species is far from extinct though...

Bit early with that shot down.
we evolved with these instincts during a time where the lack of them would have meant certain extinction, we still have them if we need them.

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B12.

Explain.


Vitamin B12 is essential for life, without it you can't make blood, repair nerves, or effectively replicate DNA.

Our bodies can't make B12, and the only source of B12 is in animal protein. Even the B12 found in supplements is harvested from animal sources.

This is now my permanent argument to battle PETA.

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B12.

Explain.


Vitamin B12 is essential for life, without it you can't make blood, repair nerves, or effectively replicate DNA.

Our bodies can't make B12, and the only source of B12 is in animal protein. Even the B12 found in supplements is harvested from animal sources.


Like a boss.

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Posted by: crimsonincubus

"Nobody can come up with a good argument for eating animals."

They are yummy. I just disproved that quote.


Ha :'D Too true. oh and....


Posted by: Olga Zakarov
I'm going to shoot an animal in the name of XIII Clutch or whatever. The animal will know that Bnet user caused his death.


Garnish and spice it up, and eat it on behalf of him/her.

  • 12.24.2010 4:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX


Our species is far from extinct though...

Bit early with that shot down.

Point?



Well, he said that we don't kill other humans to preserve our species. But there are plenty of spare humans to go around.

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I don't care about animals. They are stupid and I eat them to better my health.

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Posted by: old bad dog

Posted by: bobcast
B12.

Explain.


Vitamin B12 is essential for life, without it you can't make blood, repair nerves, or effectively replicate DNA.

Our bodies can't make B12, and the only source of B12 is in animal protein. Even the B12 found in supplements is harvested from animal sources.

I am extremely curious how one would counter this.

  • 12.24.2010 4:53 PM PDT