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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Me. And every one else on the planet, who has CANINE teeth and has EATEN MEAT with no problem to their digestive systems.

  • 12.24.2010 4:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartakus14

We are much more readily available to digest vegetation than meat. We can handle digesting meat, we aren't efficient at digesting it.

So no, it's not FACT.[/quote]

Articulate on this more. How is it that we are more readily available to handle the digestion of vegetation?

Also, you're starting to counter yourself here. You're saying that we can handle meat, whereas you were saying humans have no reason to eat meat at all?

Starting to come over to the lightside I see.


Like I've been saying all throughout, we can eat meat, we are capable, but our lack of efficiency (we have the digestive system of a herbivore in most ways) suggests that we are not meant to eat meat.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?

B12. You should pay attention.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?
we aren't nor are we designed to eat nothing but plants, we are meant to be both because we are OMNIVORES, at this point we're just beating a dead topic that was solved as soon as scientists put homosapiens in the omnivore category.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Are you kidding me? You're making the argument, YOU SUPPLY THE SOURCE!

I didn't even make a statement!

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00

Their air of superiority and i-can't-be-wrong attitude.


The people showing that in this thread, is you, and Olga.
No you see I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if you show me I am. So far you don't even bother responding to my arguments.


Yep. I respond to each of your asinine arguments, bouncing all over the place. I and it doesn't seem Olga are coming on here saying eating meat is the only way to go, as you are.

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If we aren't supposed to eat animals, they why are they so delicious?

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Me. And every one else on the planet, who has CANINE teeth and has EATEN MEAT with no problem to their digestive systems.


It's been dis-proven before. We can eat meat, but not efficiently, as if we were designed to eat it, rather just so that it's an extra, in times of need (lack of a vegetarian diet available).

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?

B12. You should pay attention.

He can't. He believes himself to be above us carnivores.

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Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Me. And every one else on the planet, who has CANINE teeth and has EATEN MEAT with no problem to their digestive systems.
I have never had a problem digesting meat. It all flows perfectly through my body. I have no trouble eating it, it may be chewy, but my teeth are designed to handle such situations should they arise. I am living proof human beings eat meat just fine.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Our ancestors sure ate a whole lot of your kind, OP. Animals.

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This thread is still going on? -blam!-.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: spartakus14

We are much more readily available to digest vegetation than meat. We can handle digesting meat, we aren't efficient at digesting it.

So no, it's not FACT.[/quote]

Articulate on this more. How is it that we are more readily available to handle the digestion of vegetation?

Also, you're starting to counter yourself here. You're saying that we can handle meat, whereas you were saying humans have no reason to eat meat at all?

Starting to come over to the lightside I see.


Like I've been saying all throughout, we can eat meat, we are capable, but our lack of efficiency (we have the digestive system of a herbivore in most ways) suggests that we are not meant to eat meat.


Most ways

We have the traits of carnivores in MOST WAYS

OMNIVORE

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Me. And every one else on the planet, who has CANINE teeth and has EATEN MEAT with no problem to their digestive systems.


It's been dis-proven before. We can eat meat, but not efficiently, as if we were designed to eat it, rather just so that it's an extra, in times of need (lack of a vegetarian diet available).


Dis-proven by who? Again, source?

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Me. And every one else on the planet, who has CANINE teeth and has EATEN MEAT with no problem to their digestive systems.


It's been dis-proven before. We can eat meat, but not efficiently, as if we were designed to eat it, rather just so that it's an extra, in times of need (lack of a vegetarian diet available).

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  • 12.24.2010 5:02 PM PDT

If you are Christian, God put animals on the earth for a reason. To eat.
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: spartakus14

We are much more readily available to digest vegetation than meat. We can handle digesting meat, we aren't efficient at digesting it.

So no, it's not FACT.[/quote]

Articulate on this more. How is it that we are more readily available to handle the digestion of vegetation?

Also, you're starting to counter yourself here. You're saying that we can handle meat, whereas you were saying humans have no reason to eat meat at all?

Starting to come over to the lightside I see.


Like I've been saying all throughout, we can eat meat, we are capable, but our lack of efficiency (we have the digestive system of a herbivore in most ways) suggests that we are not meant to eat meat.


You just reiterated what you have already said. In no way have you brought forth a new argument, or evidence, to support your words.

Also, you have not said that all the way through.
There is absolutely no reason why we should eat meat from an evolutionary or 'natural' perspective either. Our bodies are not designed to.

You said our bodies are not designed to. You said there is no reason why we should.

  • 12.24.2010 5:02 PM PDT
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Don't know what you are talking about. I eat meat. HOurs later, what's not processed is released form my body. NOthing painful happens. And what comes out is far less than what I put in, so yes I can handle meat very efficently just like ANYONE else who eats meat REGULARLY.

If ya don't eat meant on a regualr basis, be prepared for some problems.

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Me. And every one else on the planet, who has CANINE teeth and has EATEN MEAT with no problem to their digestive systems.


It's been dis-proven before. We can eat meat, but not efficiently, as if we were designed to eat it, rather just so that it's an extra, in times of need (lack of a vegetarian diet available).

  • 12.24.2010 5:02 PM PDT


Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Me. And every one else on the planet, who has CANINE teeth and has EATEN MEAT with no problem to their digestive systems.


It's been dis-proven before. We can eat meat, but not efficiently, as if we were designed to eat it, rather just so that it's an extra, in times of need (lack of a vegetarian diet available).

B12, we need it to survive. Where does it come from? Animals.

  • 12.24.2010 5:03 PM PDT

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  • 12.24.2010 5:03 PM PDT

I know you are but what am I?

I get ill whenever I eat meat, just like other herbivores.

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B12.

Explain.


Vitamin B12 is essential for life, without it you can't make blood, repair nerves, or effectively replicate DNA.

Our bodies can't make B12, and the only source of B12 is in animal protein. Even the B12 found in supplements is harvested from animal sources.

I am extremely curious how one would counter this.


I believe B12 can be obtained from dairy products as well... but not a lot compared to meat.

  • 12.24.2010 5:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Source?


Yeah exactly, where's your source to prove that we are designed to eat meat?


Are you kidding me? You're making the argument, YOU SUPPLY THE SOURCE!

I didn't even make a statement!


No, you've made the assumption that I have to disprove the argument that we are designed to eat meat, but I see no source for that either.

  • 12.24.2010 5:04 PM PDT

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Does an owl need to justify eating a mouse? It could easily eat the grass below it or the leafs next to it, but it doesn't. It doesn't because it eats meat, and that is what its brain tells it to do, it cannot live without meat because his body doesn't work that way.

We are animals, just like the owl. We need to justify eating meat just as much as we need to justify having babies.

  • 12.24.2010 5:04 PM PDT