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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
To the B12 argument, it can be found in Dairy products.

So it's not needed for a vegetarian lifestyle (which is what I think is morally correct).


Diary is animal product. Dairy is most likely close to meat, than a plant. Only because you don't have to CHEW it, it is different than meat,


I don't have to kill an animal to get it, so I don't think it's wrong.

And do you know how many animals need to die, for you to get your supplements and dairy products? You counter-argued yourself, saying it's a-ok as long as you don't kill them.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
As Morrissey once said: "nobody can come up with a good argument for eating animals - nobody can.

The fact that it's a natural part of life isn't a good argument? That humans are designed to be omnivores, isn't a good argument?

People as some kind of a joke say, well, 'It's tasty', but it's only tasty once you garnish it and you put salt and pepper, and you cook it, and you have to do 300 things to it to disguise its true taste. If you put garnishes on a chair or fabric, it would probably taste quite nice."
Wrong and irrelevant.

Animals who die for your dinner table die alone, in terror, in sadness and in pain. The killing is merciless and inhumane.
Yeah, so is life. Animals live and die, prey on others and get preyed on. Get over it.

There is absolutely no reason why we should eat meat from an evolutionary or 'natural' perspective either. Our bodies are not designed to.
Completely incorrect.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
To the B12 argument, it can be found in Dairy products.

So it's not needed for a vegetarian lifestyle (which is what I think is morally correct).


Diary is animal product. Dairy is most likely close to meat, than a plant. Only because you don't have to CHEW it, it is different than meat,


I don't have to kill an animal to get it, so I don't think it's wrong.

If you want to get technical there are animals out there that eat meat and yeah you could probably put them on a diet without actual meat but just because you can doesn't mean that it is practical or evolutionarily feasible.

  • 12.24.2010 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
To the B12 argument, it can be found in Dairy products.

So it's not needed for a vegetarian lifestyle (which is what I think is morally correct).


A vegan vegetarian refuses even dairy.


The OP: "I can't justify eating meat anymore"

I'm not a vegan. I'm just against the eating of meat.

  • 12.24.2010 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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If you are Christian, God put animals on the earth for a reason. To eat.
If not, then just accept that science created animals for a reason. To eat. Or to help other animals eat so we can eat them, and so on.


It doesn't make it morally correct, Christian or atheist!


According to whose morals? I see nothing wrong with killing animals that were brought into creation for the sole purpose of being devoured. This is not going against anyone's morals but your own, my religion doesn't say to not eat meat, my mother never said to not eat meat, my country never said to not eat meat.


You are so blinded that you cannot see the innocent slaughter of an animal weaker than you as wrong.

Then I cannot argue with you, as you are too blinded. You would never kill your own dog, or your baby, yet there are no differences between them and other animals.

Summary: YOUR VIEWS ARE WRONG. YOUR OPINION IS WRONG. I AM RIGHT. LOOK HOW SELF-RIGHTEOUS I AM.

People like you just piss me off to no end.

  • 12.24.2010 5:19 PM PDT


Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: A reely bad bean
If you are Christian, God put animals on the earth for a reason. To eat.
If not, then just accept that science created animals for a reason. To eat. Or to help other animals eat so we can eat them, and so on.


It doesn't make it morally correct, Christian or atheist!


According to whose morals? I see nothing wrong with killing animals that were brought into creation for the sole purpose of being devoured. This is not going against anyone's morals but your own, my religion doesn't say to not eat meat, my mother never said to not eat meat, my country never said to not eat meat.


You are so blinded that you cannot see the innocent slaughter of an animal weaker than you as wrong.

Then I cannot argue with you, as you are too blinded. You would never kill your own dog, or your baby, yet there are no differences between them and other animals.

Yes there is.

A turkey at a turkey farm was allowed birth by the farmer so that later on it would be killed for its meat.

A puppy was born so that the owner could sell it to someone who wants a companion.

A baby, born at a hospital, was allowed birth by its parents because they wanted to bring another human life into the world.

If we did not eat meat, the turkey would never have even came into existence; that was its sole purpose of creation.

  • 12.24.2010 5:19 PM PDT

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Are any of the animals I eat even capable of metacognition? Didn't think so. Given this, what is the difference between eating a plant and eating an animal?

  • 12.24.2010 5:19 PM PDT

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I can eat meat with no negative repercussion; therefore, we are designed to eat meat.

Bad argument, just because I can kill someone with a trophy with ease doesn't mean I can buy it in a weapon store. Being able to do something and being designed to do something are two different things.


You aren't going to survive from eating things unless you are designed to. That's how the human body works. You're counter-argument was terrible.
a trophy is a large blunt object, and they sell large blunt objects like night sticks and clubs at your hypothetical 'weapon store' that was an awful counter argument.

  • 12.24.2010 5:20 PM PDT

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I don't see what's wrong with it. They're just animals, and it's not as if they're being tortured.

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Mr_Christ

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: A reely bad bean
If you are Christian, God put animals on the earth for a reason. To eat.
If not, then just accept that science created animals for a reason. To eat. Or to help other animals eat so we can eat them, and so on.


It doesn't make it morally correct, Christian or atheist!


According to whose morals? I see nothing wrong with killing animals that were brought into creation for the sole purpose of being devoured. This is not going against anyone's morals but your own, my religion doesn't say to not eat meat, my mother never said to not eat meat, my country never said to not eat meat.


You are so blinded that you cannot see the innocent slaughter of an animal weaker than you as wrong.

Then I cannot argue with you, as you are too blinded. You would never kill your own dog, or your baby, yet there are no differences between them and other animals.


Animal weaker the us? I don't think you've ever been branding before. It takes more than one person. Also, humans are actually the weakest primate based on weight to strength.

  • 12.24.2010 5:21 PM PDT

Because the alimentary chain (not sure if it's called like that in English, but whatever) Must be preserved. We are on the top of the food chain. We eat animals. They also provide us with some essential nutriments (like proteins).

  • 12.24.2010 5:21 PM PDT

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Humans have eaten meat all through history.

Meat provides essential proteins that the human body needs to be healthy.

Also, cooking meat isn't murder, the animal is already dead. If you want to have such a bleak outlook on eating. Technically eating plants is killing something. No matter what, something died to allow you to digest it. It is simply how we survive as organisms.

Deal with it.

  • 12.24.2010 5:22 PM PDT

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  • 12.24.2010 5:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Trace007
Posted by: TPGBaseOfSpades
Posted by: spartakus14
I can eat meat with no negative repercussion; therefore, we are designed to eat meat.

Bad argument, just because I can kill someone with a trophy with ease doesn't mean I can buy it in a weapon store. Being able to do something and being designed to do something are two different things.

You aren't going to survive from eating things unless you are designed to. That's how the human body works. You're counter-argument was terrible.

I have seen people eat paper clips and have no internal or external problems, does this instantly mean that people are designed to eat paper clips?

  • 12.24.2010 5:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Mr_Christ

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: A reely bad bean
If you are Christian, God put animals on the earth for a reason. To eat.
If not, then just accept that science created animals for a reason. To eat. Or to help other animals eat so we can eat them, and so on.[/quote]

It doesn't make it morally correct, Christian or atheist!


According to whose morals? I see nothing wrong with killing animals that were brought into creation for the sole purpose of being devoured. This is not going against anyone's morals but your own, my religion doesn't say to not eat meat, my mother never said to not eat meat, my country never said to not eat meat.


You are so blinded that you cannot see the innocent slaughter of an animal weaker than you as wrong.

Then I cannot argue with you, as you are too blinded. You would never kill your own dog, or your baby, yet there are no differences between them and other animals.

Only a blind man believes himself to see.

As a matter of survival, and as wretching as it could be, I would kill my dog or cat for survival. It is the same as the animal kingdom. Sharks kill their young often.


True


Since we don't need to eat them for survival anymore, then you are actually backing my points up. That you wouldn't eat those animals if you didn't need to, to survive. Which you don't.

  • 12.24.2010 5:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Trace007

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
To the B12 argument, it can be found in Dairy products.

So it's not needed for a vegetarian lifestyle (which is what I think is morally correct).


So now you're turning this from an efficiency argument into a morality one?

This is pointless.

  • 12.24.2010 5:24 PM PDT

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You say humans aren't made to digest meat,yet you forget that humans weren't made to digest plants at peak efficiency either.

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By the way i just ate a hot dog wrapped in bacon, It was delicious.

  • 12.24.2010 5:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Trace007
Posted by: TPGBaseOfSpades
Posted by: spartakus14
I can eat meat with no negative repercussion; therefore, we are designed to eat meat.

Bad argument, just because I can kill someone with a trophy with ease doesn't mean I can buy it in a weapon store. Being able to do something and being designed to do something are two different things.

You aren't going to survive from eating things unless you are designed to. That's how the human body works. You're counter-argument was terrible.

I have seen people eat paper clips and have no internal or external problems, does this instantly mean that people are designed to eat paper clips?


Alright, tell me this. Which of your teeth are designed to eat paperclips? Also, how does the body receive nutrients from these clips?

  • 12.24.2010 5:25 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: Mr_Christ
A turkey at a turkey farm was allowed birth by the farmer so that later on it would be killed for its meat.


Thanks, you've summed it up for me.

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  • 12.24.2010 5:25 PM PDT

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animals eat meat in the wild, we humans are animals, why can't we do what is natural?

  • 12.24.2010 5:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: old bad dog

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Mr_Christ

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
It doesn't make it morally correct, Christian or atheist!

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According to whose morals? I see nothing wrong with killing animals that were brought into creation for the sole purpose of being devoured. This is not going against anyone's morals but your own, my religion doesn't say to not eat meat, my mother never said to not eat meat, my country never said to not eat meat.


You are so blinded that you cannot see the innocent slaughter of an animal weaker than you as wrong.

Then I cannot argue with you, as you are too blinded. You would never kill your own dog, or your baby, yet there are no differences between them and other animals.

Only a blind man believes himself to see.

As a matter of survival, and as wretching as it could be, I would kill my dog or cat for survival. It is the same as the animal kingdom. Sharks kill their young often.


True


Since we don't need to eat them for survival anymore, then you are actually backing my points up. That you wouldn't eat those animals if you didn't need to, to survive. Which you don't.

It was an example, to counter your point. People have eaten shark (although I personally would not enjoy it). Besides, I mentioned sharks to make a point. "Because we don't eat them" does not serve as an opposite to my argument.

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Posted by: Trace007
Posted by: TPGBaseOfSpades
Posted by: spartakus14
I can eat meat with no negative repercussion; therefore, we are designed to eat meat.

Bad argument, just because I can kill someone with a trophy with ease doesn't mean I can buy it in a weapon store. Being able to do something and being designed to do something are two different things.

You aren't going to survive from eating things unless you are designed to. That's how the human body works. You're counter-argument was terrible.

I have seen people eat paper clips and have no internal or external problems, does this instantly mean that people are designed to eat paper clips?


Do they eat paper clips for breakfast, lunch, and dinner?

  • 12.24.2010 5:25 PM PDT

I am a Halo 3 Failure.

Returning to the D12 argument, the OP brought up dairy products, and is now talking about morality.

So, OP, you are perfectly fine with capturing cows, strapping them up to machines, and ultimately making there lives boring, gray, and mechanical, but as soon as one cow dies OH SNAP THIS IS TOTALLY WRONG.

  • 12.24.2010 5:25 PM PDT