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*scratches nuts*

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00
Murdering a cow/chicken/animal is going up to it, slitting its throat or shooting it and then leaving it alone and doing nothing to it. That's murder. It is called hunting/surviving/eating when a guy goes up to the animal leads it to slaughter, packages it, ships it, and then the snimal gets eaten.

ONe is murder, the other is called suppl-and-demand.


No, it's not. I don't know why I'm bothering, but just because you do something after you've murdered it, doesn't make it not murder.

It's murder, because you don't need to kill it. You don't need to eat it, (proven by vegetarians).
You don't need to eat vegetables either.

  • 12.24.2010 7:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Maybe later, you could tell me how 'hate' and 'dislike' are different, I've always been sketchy on those two.


dislike and hate are different words with different meanings my silly child.

somebody needs to go back to school. I hear they have classes open for the winter holiday. Instead of nerd raging over meat for 2 weeks during your school break I suggest you use those two weeks to learn what different words mean =)

make sure to pick up some meat and eat it on the way too =)

  • 12.24.2010 7:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Murcielago00
Here another definition for you:

mur·der
noun \\
Definition of MURDER
1
: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2
a : something very difficult or dangerous <the traffic was murder> b : something outrageous or blameworthy <getting away with murder>

Posted by: Murcielago00
Here another definition for you:

mur·der
noun \\
Definition of MURDER
1
: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2
a : something very difficult or dangerous <the traffic was murder> b : something outrageous or blameworthy <getting away with murder>

Posted by: Murcielago00
Here another definition for you:

mur·der
noun \\
Definition of MURDER
1
: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2
a : something very difficult or dangerous <the traffic was murder> b : something outrageous or blameworthy <getting away with murder>


No, you don't then.

  • 12.24.2010 7:10 PM PDT
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Do you have no concept of DEFINITIONS? Murder is against humans. People. You can't murder an animal. You can kill it, but you can't murder it. You can hunt it, but you can't murder it. Why because only people can be murdered.

  • 12.24.2010 7:10 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: tjs0620
At least Wyldfyre is gone, he was worse then the OP.


He made good points.

  • 12.24.2010 7:11 PM PDT

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What would justify killing another entity for the purpose of consumption is absolutely subjective. I do believe, though, that such an action is not noble in any sense of the word but is relatively necessary for the survival and peace of humanity, currently, as it is so deeply rooted in our general society.

It trying to take away 'our' beloved products derived from other animals you antagonize general society. We just aren't willing to end the suffering and killing of other entities for our own personal gain at this point in time and doing so would go against the will of billions; violent acts would surely follow as people would feel a great number of ill feelings. The irony of keeping this 'peace' is that, as long as harm is done in any from, its influence will spread through society gaining momentum over time if it is not halted by someone in some from.

It is a very complex problem thus a solution would surely be just as if not even more complex. Pitiful, really.

  • 12.24.2010 7:11 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: Murcielago00
Do you have no concept of DEFINITIONS? Murder is against humans. People. You can't murder an animal. You can kill it, but you can't murder it. You can hunt it, but you can't murder it. Why because only people can be murdered.



Wow, you must have no conversational skills at all. The meaning of everything is not always written down into a dictionary.

It is murder.

  • 12.24.2010 7:12 PM PDT
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The radio said "No, John. You are the demons."
And then John was a zombie.

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26 pages? Most impressive indeed.

  • 12.24.2010 7:12 PM PDT


Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Heifer whines could be human cries
Closer comes the screaming knife
This beautiful creature must die
This beautiful creature must die
A death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER


The reason is that I'm hungry

[Edited on 12.24.2010 7:13 PM PST]

  • 12.24.2010 7:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: AngrydoG
1. we have forward facing eyes. Very similar to lions, tigers, dogs, cats Etc.

2. We have both canines (used to tear into meat) and molars, used for grinding down grains, veggies, fruits Etc.

3. We have enzymes specifically made to break down meat, as well as plants.

4. Cattle can eat grass, we however cannot, we do not have the enzymes to break down cellulose, (grass as in the kind you see cattle eat, not wheat.)

5. Our body does not reject meat or plants (save a few), we may eat either as we see fit.

so we can either be vegetarians or omnivores. Thats how I see it. And thats how God saw fit to put us as.


I concede the point that we aren't designed to eat meat, but I still stand firm that whether we are designed to or not, we don't have to.

without meat we miss out on protiens and other chemicals to be fully healthy but yes you can live without meat.

  • 12.24.2010 7:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheDemonicBird O
What would justify killing another entity for the purpose of consumption is absolutely subjective. I do believe, though, that such an action is not noble in any sense of the word but is relatively necessary for the survival and peace of humanity, currently, as it is so deeply rooted in our general society.

It trying to take away 'our' beloved products derived from other animals you antagonize general society. We just aren't willing to end the suffering and killing of other entities for our own personal gain at this point in time and doing so would go against the will of billions; violent acts would surely follow as people would feel a great number of ill feelings. The irony of keeping this 'peace' is that, as long as harm is done in any from, its influence will spread through society gaining momentum over time if it is not halted by someone in some from.

It is a very complex problem thus a solution would surely be just as if not even more complex. Pitiful, really.


Fair point, I agree with lots of it.

But it's still wrong, whether society has ruined it or not.

  • 12.24.2010 7:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Heifer whines could be human cries
Closer comes the screaming knife
This beautiful creature must die
This beautiful creature must die
A death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER


The reason is that I'm hungry


Eat a banana.

  • 12.24.2010 7:14 PM PDT

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HOLY BATMAN WHAT ARE THESE SHARP THINGS IN MY MOUTH AM I A VAMPIRE NOW?

  • 12.24.2010 7:14 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: tjs0620
Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: tjs0620
At least Wyldfyre is gone, he was worse then the OP.


He made good points.
No, he made stupid, and ignorant claims about how eating meat is not needed, and didn't present any proof.


Nobody presented proof! It was an argument on logic.

  • 12.24.2010 7:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00
Do you have no concept of DEFINITIONS? Murder is against humans. People. You can't murder an animal. You can kill it, but you can't murder it. You can hunt it, but you can't murder it. Why because only people can be murdered.



Wow, you must have no conversational skills at all. The meaning of everything is not always written down into a dictionary.

It is murder.

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00
Do you have no concept of DEFINITIONS? Murder is against humans. People. You can't murder an animal. You can kill it, but you can't murder it. You can hunt it, but you can't murder it. Why because only people can be murdered.



Wow, you must have no conversational skills at all. The meaning of everything is not always written down into a dictionary.

It is murder.


Let's break it down for you.

": the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought" - well there is no real crime for "unlawfully" killing an animal, usually its a slap on the wrist misdemeanor IF that.

"a : something very difficult or dangerous" - leading a bunch of animals to slaughter isn't probably all that difficult.

"something outrageous or blameworthy" - still not seeing how killing a steak-animal is outrageous or blameworty...

  • 12.24.2010 7:16 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: tjs0620
Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: tjs0620
Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: tjs0620
At least Wyldfyre is gone, he was worse then the OP.


He made good points.
No, he made stupid, and ignorant claims about how eating meat is not needed, and didn't present any proof.


Nobody presented proof! It was an argument on logic.
The meat eaters presented proof, you did not, at least not reliable proof.



I never saw any...

  • 12.24.2010 7:16 PM PDT

I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. ~ Mark Twain

Posted by: Murcielago00

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00
Do you have no concept of DEFINITIONS? Murder is against humans. People. You can't murder an animal. You can kill it, but you can't murder it. You can hunt it, but you can't murder it. Why because only people can be murdered.



Wow, you must have no conversational skills at all. The meaning of everything is not always written down into a dictionary.

It is murder.

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Murcielago00
Do you have no concept of DEFINITIONS? Murder is against humans. People. You can't murder an animal. You can kill it, but you can't murder it. You can hunt it, but you can't murder it. Why because only people can be murdered.



Wow, you must have no conversational skills at all. The meaning of everything is not always written down into a dictionary.

It is murder.


Let's break it down for you.

": the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought" - well there is no real crime for "unlawfully" killing an animal, usually its a slap on the wrist misdemeanor IF that.

"a : something very difficult or dangerous" - leading a bunch of animals to slaughter isn't probably all that difficult.

"something outrageous or blameworthy" - still not seeing how killing a steak-animal is outrageous or blameworty...


I don't know if you ever saw that video a few years back, of the pig that was killed by a chainsaw.

Well, guess what they were convicted of?

  • 12.24.2010 7:18 PM PDT