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Posted by: IListen2No1isme

Okay, I'm calling troll.
Unless you can produce coherent sentences without insulting me, I'm not paying any attention.

  • 12.25.2010 4:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: IListen2No1isme
Call me fickle but whatever.

What are your thoughts on eating plants? They're alive too.[/quote]

he says it different because they dont think by your logic though wyld its still killing somthing


If you can't honestly see the difference between a plant and a dog/pig, then you are not intelligent enough to debate with.

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Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
Call me fickle but whatever.

What are your thoughts on eating plants? They're alive too.

I don't eat plants. I eat the produce.

0_0 But the fruits and stuff ARE part of the plant

  • 12.25.2010 4:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: Tonoottu
ITT: stupid overly conscious vegetarians not realizing humans are omnivores

I've never had to eat meat in my life to maintain a healthy diet. I don't see why other living beings should die for everyone else to.


its called survival of the fitest go reread your bio textbook

btw wylds a self rightous dick who wont hear anyone elses oppiion without throwing a -blam!- fit


He's countered all your arguments, there's a difference between that and what you claim. And the survival of the fittest he's shown doesn't matter anymore.


who says you? like you matter in the grand scheme of things your probably some faceless -blam!- probably still livin with your parents at forty or your a twelve year old that gets picked on if your not one of these things why are you on the flood

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Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
Call me fickle but whatever.

What are your thoughts on eating plants? They're alive too.

I don't eat plants. I eat the produce.

0_0 But the fruits and stuff ARE part of the plant

But nothing dies to sustain me. No pain or suffering is inflicted at all. It's also a lot cheaper and more economical.

  • 12.25.2010 4:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: WyIdfyre

Posted by: Tonoottu
ITT: stupid overly conscious vegetarians not realizing humans are omnivores

I've never had to eat meat in my life to maintain a healthy diet. I don't see why other living beings should die for everyone else to.


its called survival of the fitest go reread your bio textbook

btw wylds a self rightous dick who wont hear anyone elses oppiion without throwing a -blam!- fit


He's countered all your arguments, there's a difference between that and what you claim. And the survival of the fittest he's shown doesn't matter anymore.


who says you? like you matter in the grand scheme of things your probably some faceless -blam!- probably still livin with your parents at forty or your a twelve year old that gets picked on if your not one of these things why are you on the flood

Imma try to resist but i cant.... Touche

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Posted by: WyIdfyre

Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
Call me fickle but whatever.

What are your thoughts on eating plants? They're alive too.

I don't eat plants. I eat the produce.

0_0 But the fruits and stuff ARE part of the plant

But nothing dies to sustain me. No pain or suffering is inflicted at all. It's also a lot cheaper and more economical.

Except the potential offspring of that plant or fungus... you do eat mushrooms right?

  • 12.25.2010 4:39 AM PDT

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all you vegans and vegitarians are -blam!-s who cant accept anything and have to be different and stand out because your all little tools

  • 12.25.2010 4:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: IListen2No1isme

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: IListen2No1isme

Posted by: WyIdfyre

Posted by: Tonoottu
ITT: stupid overly conscious vegetarians not realizing humans are omnivores

I've never had to eat meat in my life to maintain a healthy diet. I don't see why other living beings should die for everyone else to.


its called survival of the fitest go reread your bio textbook

btw wylds a self rightous dick who wont hear anyone elses oppiion without throwing a -blam!- fit


He's countered all your arguments, there's a difference between that and what you claim. And the survival of the fittest he's shown doesn't matter anymore.


who says you? like you matter in the grand scheme of things your probably some faceless -blam!- probably still livin with your parents at forty or your a twelve year old that gets picked on if your not one of these things why are you on the flood


Why are you on the Flood then bro?

What's it like being almost incoherent and unable to hold an argument without insulting people and completely ignoring logic.

  • 12.25.2010 4:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: IListen2No1isme
all you vegans and vegitarians are -blam!-s who cant accept anything and have to be different and stand out because your all little tools


Can't you see, that's you?

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Posted by: james 101296
Except the potential offspring of that plant or fungus... you do eat mushrooms right?

Indeed, but unlike the plants themselves, there is no measurable life within the produce. They do no have any respiration at all, no feeling at all and do not 'evolve' into anything else until physical intervention is involved.

  • 12.25.2010 4:43 AM PDT

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Alright, I'll try to put this simply.

The reason why people eat animals for protein is because they don't lose sleep at night over it. It's a moral decision.

You wonder how we could possibly kill an eat another animal? Because we don't care.

Non-vegetarians see it as two roads leading to the same location, so they make the decision that has a taste that they like, which you can't blame them for. They live with the "cons" because they believe that there aren't any.

Vegetarians believe that there IS a con, which is much worse than the "pro," so they choose the other road.

...That's it, people.

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Posted by: Trace007
Alright, I'll try to put this simply.

The reason why people eat animals for protein is because they don't lose sleep at night over it. It's a moral decision.

You wonder how we could possibly kill an eat another animal? Because we don't care.

Non-vegetarians see it as two roads leading to the same location, so they make the decision that has a taste that they like, which you can't blame them for. They live with the "cons" because they believe that there aren't any.

Vegetarians believe that there IS a con, which is much worse than the "pro," so they choose the other road.

...That's it, people.

That's actually quite a good analogy.

  • 12.25.2010 4:45 AM PDT
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We are omnivores. You know that, right? Our teeth are designed to be all purpose. They do not single out a diet. Humans have been eating meat since we became advanced enough to hunt it.

Deal with it.

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one thing before I leave any ninjas that read this can we make a rule that you arnt allowed to make a thread or comment about killing aniamls, or why you shouldnt kll animals or anything of this nature because they are all so pointless and irritating and just piss everybody off

  • 12.25.2010 4:46 AM PDT
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Because it's what society has brought us up to to. Because it is natural for humans to eat meat. Because I enjoy the taste of meat. Because meat is easily available and provides protein in a far more appealing way to me than nuts, tofu, etc.

No-one's saying you have to eat it, just allow us to have our own opinion on the matter. Yes, some practices in the killing of animals are cruel, and environmental damage is done in their production, but if you use the idea that an animal shouldn't be killed because it lives, should plants be discredited just because they don't have a brain or nervous system? They live too, you know? In my view, it's only natural, the passing on of energy through the consumption of organisms (though we could probably do a lot to decrease the environmental damage stock production does).

You however, can believe whatever you want, considering we live in a free world. Don't want to eat animals? Then don't. I don't mind, as long as you don't attack the beliefs of others.

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Posted by: Shath0
We are omnivores. You know that, right? Our teeth are designed to be all purpose. They do not single out a diet. Humans have been eating meat since we became advanced enough to hunt it.

Deal with it.

Actually, it took off around 2,500 years ago.

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Posted by: Trace007
Alright, I'll try to put this simply.

The reason why people eat animals for protein is because they don't lose sleep at night over it. It's a moral decision.

You wonder how we could possibly kill an eat another animal? Because we don't care.

Non-vegetarians see it as two roads leading to the same location, so they make the decision that has a taste that they like, which you can't blame them for. They live with the "cons" because they believe that there aren't any.

Vegetarians believe that there IS a con, which is much worse than the "pro," so they choose the other road.

...That's it, people.


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  • 12.25.2010 4:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
Call me fickle but whatever.

What are your thoughts on eating plants? They're alive too.

I don't eat plants. I eat the produce.
Nothing dies due to my actions to sustain me.

I'm not certain whether or not plants such as lettuce or carrot die during harvest, so I can't really pursue this any further.

Also wikipedia is bad for research, I started on Carrot and wound up on Mormon.

  • 12.25.2010 4:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Trace007
Alright, I'll try to put this simply.

The reason why people eat animals for protein is because they don't lose sleep at night over it. It's a moral decision.

You wonder how we could possibly kill an eat another animal? Because we don't care.

Non-vegetarians see it as two roads leading to the same location, so they make the decision that has a taste that they like, which you can't blame them for. They live with the "cons" because they believe that there aren't any.

Vegetarians believe that there IS a con, which is much worse than the "pro," so they choose the other road.

...That's it, people.



Posted by: Wyldfyre
People prefer to go with the flow than go against the sadistic gluttony of modern society.


The truth of not caring.

Just because I don't care about that granny I mugged and killed and because it is morally subjective doesn't change the fact that it's wrong.

Just because something is subjective, doesn't mean you can get away with it being "wrong" because you don't believe that there is such a thing.

  • 12.25.2010 4:49 AM PDT
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The toast was burned, the pie was delicious, and the cake......was a lie.


Posted by: WyIdfyre

Posted by: Shath0
We are omnivores. You know that, right? Our teeth are designed to be all purpose. They do not single out a diet. Humans have been eating meat since we became advanced enough to hunt it.

Deal with it.

Actually, it took off around 2,500 years ago.

Riiight.

Ohai, Stone age!

[Edited on 12.25.2010 4:51 AM PST]

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Posted by: H0gbinlad3n
Call me fickle but whatever.

What are your thoughts on eating plants? They're alive too.

I don't eat plants. I eat the produce.
Nothing dies due to my actions to sustain me.

I'm not certain whether or not plants such as lettuce or carrot die during harvest, so I can't really pursue this any further.

Also wikipedia is bad for research, I started on Carrot and wound up on Mormon.

XD

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Posted by: Trace007
Alright, I'll try to put this simply.

The reason why people eat animals for protein is because they don't lose sleep at night over it. It's a moral decision.

You wonder how we could possibly kill an eat another animal? Because we don't care.

Non-vegetarians see it as two roads leading to the same location, so they make the decision that has a taste that they like, which you can't blame them for. They live with the "cons" because they believe that there aren't any.

Vegetarians believe that there IS a con, which is much worse than the "pro," so they choose the other road.

...That's it, people.



Posted by: Wyldfyre
People prefer to go with the flow than go against the sadistic gluttony of modern society.


The truth of not caring.

Just because I don't care about that granny I mugged and killed and because it is morally subjective doesn't change the fact that it's wrong.

Just because something is subjective, doesn't mean you can get away with it being "wrong" because you don't believe that there is such a thing.


well you know what dude we have a twisted society learn to live with it or go live in the wilderness thats the only choice anybody has in the matter

  • 12.25.2010 4:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: WyIdfyre

Posted by: Trace007
Alright, I'll try to put this simply.

The reason why people eat animals for protein is because they don't lose sleep at night over it. It's a moral decision.

You wonder how we could possibly kill an eat another animal? Because we don't care.

Non-vegetarians see it as two roads leading to the same location, so they make the decision that has a taste that they like, which you can't blame them for. They live with the "cons" because they believe that there aren't any.

Vegetarians believe that there IS a con, which is much worse than the "pro," so they choose the other road.

...That's it, people.

That's actually quite a good analogy.


I heard I'm good with those. <.<

Anyway, so regardless if I eat meat or not, my argument is that this debate is useless. Morals can't be used as points, so all of the points are useless. The argument is invalid.

Ancient Romans understood this. They put dictators into power in times of crises just so something could be done, because they knew that they could debate the morals forever.

  • 12.25.2010 4:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: IListen2No1isme

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: Trace007
Alright, I'll try to put this simply.

The reason why people eat animals for protein is because they don't lose sleep at night over it. It's a moral decision.

You wonder how we could possibly kill an eat another animal? Because we don't care.

Non-vegetarians see it as two roads leading to the same location, so they make the decision that has a taste that they like, which you can't blame them for. They live with the "cons" because they believe that there aren't any.

Vegetarians believe that there IS a con, which is much worse than the "pro," so they choose the other road.

...That's it, people.



Posted by: Wyldfyre
People prefer to go with the flow than go against the sadistic gluttony of modern society.


The truth of not caring.

Just because I don't care about that granny I mugged and killed and because it is morally subjective doesn't change the fact that it's wrong.

Just because something is subjective, doesn't mean you can get away with it being "wrong" because you don't believe that there is such a thing.


well you know what dude we have a twisted society learn to live with it or go live in the wilderness thats the only choice anybody has in the matter


You just admitted that I was right. Even if you said there's nothing you can do about it, it still shows that you have agreed with my point that it's wrong to kill animals.

And just because it's hard to change something doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

  • 12.25.2010 4:53 AM PDT