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First thing that I would like to say is that I hate it when people say what humans do is 'unnatural'. We are in fact part of nature, to be clear, everything is part of nature, that is, nothing exists outside of nature. For something to be unnatural (i.e. exist outside of nature) it would have to not exist.

Furthermore I do not condone the mistreatment of animals. I think that the animals we eat shouldn't be mistreated and forced to live in inhumane ways. Regardless though animals eating other animals is simply the way of life. Additionally the point of this thread isn't to debate how ethical the slaughterhouses treat their animals but whether or not it is okay for humans to eat meat. Which is a questions solely based on morals and varies person to person. Neither of these people are wrong, it just their subjective view on the matter. People that claim that their view is correct and say that if you don't follow my way then you're wrong are in fact egotistical and arrogant.

  • 12.25.2010 8:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: Thanatos465
You wouldnt be alive if it werent for eating animals, even animals eat other animals.

No, you don't get it. It's fine to eat animals when it's convenient, but give someone a choice and god forbid they choose to eat meat over a plant. The poor animals will suffer if you choose to eat them, but it's okay to eat them when you have to because then it's pain-free for them. Also I'm pretty sure it's pain-free whenever the OP decides he wants to eat a steak again.

  • 12.25.2010 8:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: GladBurrito
Posted by: mityman50
One of my close friends is a vegetarian. She has no problem if people want to eat animals and hunt and all that. She just doesn't like the taste of meat.

Why can't all vegetarians be like that?


Because, IMO, vegetarians are as dumb as Jehovah's Witnesses.

"DONT'T EAT MEAT! YOU'LL GO TO HELL!"

Yup, you totally missed my point. You know, I don't agree with the OP and the people that support him, but I gotta feel sorry for them when they have to argue with people like you.

I said that she isn't like your stereotypical vegetarian. She doesn't push her diet on other people. In fact, she has no problem with people eating meat.

  • 12.25.2010 8:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
People as some kind of a joke say, well, 'It's tasty', but it's only tasty once you garnish it and you put salt and pepper, and you cook it, and you have to do 300 things to it to disguise its true taste.


A well-cooked steak needs nothing more than a very small hint of salt and pepper, if that, to be fantastic. Anything else just masks crappy culinary skill. Looks like you became a vegetarian because you can't cook well.

  • 12.25.2010 8:30 AM PDT

Posted by: GladBurrito
Posted by: mityman50
Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Lol, you can't just ignore PETA, because you think they are quacks, you still have to view the content.

"Think" they are quacks?Think?

They are loons. They compared the slaughter of animals to the holocaust. They condone terrorism.


PETA tried to have ice-cream parlors use human breast-milk instead of cow milk.

They're stupid and if I could nuke the headquarters, I would.
What kind of women would go so low as to do that... I wonder.

  • 12.25.2010 8:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
People as some kind of a joke say, well, 'It's tasty', but it's only tasty once you garnish it and you put salt and pepper, and you cook it, and you have to do 300 things to it to disguise its true taste.


A well-cooked steak needs nothing more than a very small hint of salt and pepper, if that, to be fantastic. Anything else just masks crappy culinary skill. Looks like you became a vegetarian because you can't cook well.

And I'm pretty sure that pilgrims ate meat to stay alive, but they didn't have a thousand different spices and marinades. Nope, pretty sure it was just salt.

  • 12.25.2010 8:32 AM PDT

Watch me handle my business.

Posted by: ninjadude132
We kill them fast and painlessly.
Ummmmm...NO. Animals in the meat industry are treated savagely until the day of slaughter which sometimes can be extremely painful for the animal. What we need to do is stop eating so much meat. You don't want to completely remove it from your diet as our bodies need meat. If Americans didn't feel like they needed half out their plate covered in meat and a small portion in veggies things wouldn't be so bad on the animals.

  • 12.25.2010 8:34 AM PDT

My justification is that most vegetables taste awful, and that most meat tastes great.

  • 12.25.2010 8:38 AM PDT


Posted by: ChickenPizza
Posted by: ninjadude132
We kill them fast and painlessly.
Ummmmm...NO. Animals in the meat industry are treated savagely until the day of slaughter which sometimes can be extremely painful for the animal. What we need to do is stop eating so much meat. You don't want to completely remove it from your diet as our bodies need meat. If Americans didn't feel like they needed half out their plate covered in meat and a small portion in veggies things wouldn't be so bad on the animals.


only half the plate?

  • 12.25.2010 8:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: GladBurrito
Posted by: mityman50
Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Lol, you can't just ignore PETA, because you think they are quacks, you still have to view the content.

"Think" they are quacks?Think?

They are loons. They compared the slaughter of animals to the holocaust. They condone terrorism.


PETA tried to have ice-cream parlors use human breast-milk instead of cow milk.

They're stupid and if I could nuke the headquarters, I would.
They really did that? Thats -blam!- hilarious!

They also cancelled NASA testing for space travel, because 27 squirrel monkeys will be tested on. They also cancelled a possible CURE for cancer because 20 rats needed to recieve cancer.

  • 12.25.2010 8:57 AM PDT

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The only real justification for not eating meat meat is because of moral choice. People have different morals. I don't give a rat's ass if you don't like me eating animals. I don' need to give you a reason because what it boils down to is it is none of your goddamn business.

I also don't need a reason because there have been many reasons posted on this very thread. We're omnivores. We were designed to eat meat and plants.

  • 12.25.2010 9:04 AM PDT

There is a certain point of tolerance that should never be reached.

But Tacos... What about the Tacos?

  • 12.25.2010 9:09 AM PDT
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Thousands of Hunters?
Millions of Scarabs?
Bring it on!

But without meat, the circle of life will become unbalanced!

  • 12.25.2010 9:10 AM PDT

Calculus calms my troubled mind

Because its just an animal life, and meat is delicious.

Yesterday I ate ham, venison sausage, and beef shortribs, and I plan to eat similarly today, since I love meat.

  • 12.25.2010 9:11 AM PDT

There is a certain point of tolerance that should never be reached.

Hello people, TACOS!?

  • 12.25.2010 9:23 AM PDT
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Humans evolved. Early humans had the teeth for eating meat.

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Posted by: GladBurrito
Posted by: mityman50
One of my close friends is a vegetarian. She has no problem if people want to eat animals and hunt and all that. She just doesn't like the taste of meat.

Why can't all vegetarians be like that?


Because, IMO, vegetarians are as dumb as Jehovah's Witnesses.

"DONT'T EAT MEAT! YOU'LL GO TO HELL!"

Rofl, who says that?

  • 12.25.2010 9:38 AM PDT

you can't know how they were killed. Their death is a waste if you DONT eat meat.

  • 12.25.2010 9:40 AM PDT

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I quit


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Posted by: GladBurrito
Posted by: mityman50
One of my close friends is a vegetarian. She has no problem if people want to eat animals and hunt and all that. She just doesn't like the taste of meat.

Why can't all vegetarians be like that?


Because, IMO, vegetarians are as dumb as Jehovah's Witnesses.

"DONT'T EAT MEAT! YOU'LL GO TO HELL!"

Rofl, who says that?
Wyldfyre.

The furry?

  • 12.25.2010 9:44 AM PDT