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Subject: I just can't justify eating meat anymore

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: TrickyDonut

What the OP is trying to say is we don't require the consumption of meat anymore. We have ways around it.

And I'm not gonna lie, that is a hard topic to debate.

Do I agree with him? No, I enjoy meat.

Am I against him? No, my ex is a vegan and so is my Aunt. I respect other people's decisions, just please don't cram it down another human's throat.[/quote]
Sort of this. I don't really like them if it's because of animal torture, but if they get in my face I'll kill them.

So? We eat meat. Are you saying that the animals being eaten by bears and lions aren't being tortured? They are, but you can't stop it, and you can't stop the meat industry.

Yes it is inhumane, but us humans are omnivores.


Watch the video, and you'll understand the massive difference.


I already posted it IS inhumane! What else do you want from me?

No, I don't like animals being tortured. But we are omnivores. No matter what you do, you can't stop them.


We have the choice not to be omnivores. And you compare what happens in nature when a lion kills a zebra to what we do to cows.

It does not compare, not at all, not matter how subjective you all pretend it is.

No, it isn't the same. I agree on that. We humans do have the choice, but it isn't an easy one. And I can guarantee that you can't stop the meat industry.

  • 12.25.2010 10:16 AM PDT
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Animals eat other animals.

Humans are animals.

  • 12.25.2010 10:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: TrickyDonut

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: TrickyDonut

Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: TrickyDonut

What the OP is trying to say is we don't require the consumption of meat anymore. We have ways around it.

And I'm not gonna lie, that is a hard topic to debate.

Do I agree with him? No, I enjoy meat.

Am I against him? No, my ex is a vegan and so is my Aunt. I respect other people's decisions, just please don't cram it down another human's throat.[/quote]
Sort of this. I don't really like them if it's because of animal torture, but if they get in my face I'll kill them.

So? We eat meat. Are you saying that the animals being eaten by bears and lions aren't being tortured? They are, but you can't stop it, and you can't stop the meat industry.

Yes it is inhumane, but us humans are omnivores.


Watch the video, and you'll understand the massive difference.


I already posted it IS inhumane! What else do you want from me?

No, I don't like animals being tortured. But we are omnivores. No matter what you do, you can't stop them.


We have the choice not to be omnivores. And you compare what happens in nature when a lion kills a zebra to what we do to cows.

It does not compare, not at all, not matter how subjective you all pretend it is.

No, it isn't the same. I agree on that. We humans do have the choice, but it isn't an easy one. And I can guarantee that you can't stop the meat industry.


I can agree with that and I know, the meat industry won't be stopped now, but the human race will eventually realise how barbaric they are. It's one of the things that will eventually have to die out, if we are to call ourselves advanced.

  • 12.25.2010 10:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: I Fledgling I
Animals eat other animals.

Humans are animals.


Every other animal does it to survive (or part of their survival).

We do it for greed.

  • 12.25.2010 10:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: XII CIUTCH IIX
Posted by: I Fledgling I
Animals eat other animals.

Humans are animals.


Every other animal does it to survive (or part of their survival).

We do it for greed.

Even if for some odd reason I got vegetarian, which I won't, I can still eat food like potatoes and nachos and pizza.

  • 12.25.2010 10:24 AM PDT

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I felt the same as OP did when I watched my mom behead a chicken. That was 10 years ago, i'm not 6 years old anymore. After she fed that chicken to me and my family, I learned to accept that we are an apex predator, and we eat whatever the -blam!- we want.

Just be glad were killing mostly domesticated animals and we're not disrupting whats left of the wildlife as much as we used to.

  • 12.25.2010 10:27 AM PDT

July 15, 2008... The day the timer stood still.

Because those animals were going to live forever anyways?

  • 12.25.2010 10:29 AM PDT
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This will be my final post in this thread. The view of whether eating meat is right or wrong is a moral one, some may view it as right and others not. Regardless though both are subjective views and neither are better than the other. The fact is that humans are omnivores we have evolved to be able to consume both meat and plants. We need the nutrients from both to survive. Although it is possible to live without eating meat through supplements and such but that is beyond the point. Humans regardless of whether we have to eat meat are still omnivores, that is, we are designed to consume both. So when one kills an animal for food, we don't do it for greed, we do it for food. Sure we don't have to kill it, but we aren't doing it for greed but for food. Just like other animals kill for food. Again the view of whether we should do this or not is completely subjective and is pointless to argue over since neither view is better than the other. The problems comes when ones party claims that their view is better and then saying everyone that doesn't adhere to it is wrong. This is the stance of the OP in the thread, he is saying that his subjective view is correct and ones that disagree are wrong which is incorrect since the view is subjective.

Now to the point of mistreatment, just because someone eats meat does it mean that they support companies that house their livestock in inhumane ways. Not all meat companies treat their livestock in bad ways. Furthermore one could bring up the argument of subjectivity here too. Saying that they don't consider the mistreatment of animals wrong, but you don't even need to that with this thread since the point of this thread is whether the act of eating meat is wrong (which is an irrelevant argument to begin with since it is subjective) not about the mistreatment of animals.

  • 12.25.2010 10:36 AM PDT

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A lawyer's salary can buy a hell of a lot of Asian prostitutes, and that's pretty much all I care about.

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Poorly, and with a screen-door style security system?

Our bodies aren't designed to? What do you propose we do with those incisor and canine teeth then?

  • 12.25.2010 10:40 AM PDT

OH HAI THAR!

This thread was created last night, and it already has over 1000 replies and 46 pages. Flood, I am disappoint.

  • 12.25.2010 10:42 AM PDT
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You could stop being a pusy. Animals would eat us too given the chance.

  • 12.25.2010 10:42 AM PDT

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I see the OP read that thread on /b/ that had that whole thing posted in it...

And just as a note, you don't need to justify it. It tastes good (and I barely garnish it), and animals killing other animals of different species for food is natural. But as a note, I consider the whole -blam!- treatment of animals by the corporations as terribly inhumane, and as a practice that needs to stop. Now.

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  • 12.25.2010 10:42 AM PDT

If it ain't my chair, it ain't my problem. That's what I say.

* Protein

* Tastes good

* It's just the way of life

  • 12.25.2010 10:43 AM PDT

That ViDoc... :'(

It tastes -blam!- good, and it's an awesome source of many essential things.

  • 12.25.2010 10:43 AM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x
A lawyer's salary can buy a hell of a lot of Asian prostitutes, and that's pretty much all I care about.

Posted by: Achronos (in reference to how Internet Explorer runs)
Poorly, and with a screen-door style security system?

Be right back, gonna go eat a delicious spiral honey baked ham for lunch with the fam.

  • 12.25.2010 10:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
I've got no problem whatsoever with anyone who makes a personal and conscious decision to alter their lifestyle or eating habits for health or ethical reasons. I see no reason to question, doubt or challenge their personal decision(s).

I would simply appreciate if the courtesy was returned.


You're not allowed to give your opinion on opinions/ Irony

  • 12.25.2010 10:45 AM PDT

fuits and vegatables just dont feel as satisfying to eat. when your hungry, biting into a juicy chicken or steak or hamburger is just nirvana

  • 12.25.2010 10:49 AM PDT

Banned and proud of it.

*Eats Turkey*

  • 12.25.2010 12:45 PM PDT

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What about wild omnivorous animals that eat meat and other/misc.? Are they murdering the poor shrews/beetles/sparrows that they eat when they could survive by eating nothing but berries or whatever?

But it's your choice, I'm not trying to say vegetarians are scum of the Earth. I just don't like being likened to a murderer because I eat evolutionarily inferior creatures.

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  • 12.25.2010 12:53 PM PDT

-I was here

To all the idiots who say don't eat meat: Animals eat meat everyday. what's wrong with that?

  • 12.25.2010 12:53 PM PDT

its funny how you say "designed to" and then you say "evolutionary"

in evolution we're not "designed" to do anything. its just nature.

here's an argument. meat is healthy. instead of eating a million beans and nuts. ill just eat some meat. animals like pigs, and cow, serve no other purpose than to stink out your back yard. if your NOT eating them, your doing more harm than good. when we eat eggs, were not eating baby chickens, they're unfertilized, were not killing anything.

If God didn't want us eating animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat.

  • 12.25.2010 12:54 PM PDT

Banned and proud of it.

Watch this.

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  • 12.25.2010 12:55 PM PDT